Mini 1404 - Monopoly Mafia - Game Over

[Jal]

If Cheery is going to be lynched, it wont be because some people don't like one of his cards.

What vig flavor do you want?

I'm probably going to vig Monkey person, Xis or Mhork, depending on the day. Mhork has been rubbing me wrong the entire day

P-edit: Everyone is probably listed as a "vanilla" goon or town. Lurker still had a power card. My only point being, someone did claim to have useless cards with no power.

[Jal]

I'm trying to paint a picture of Mhork's avatar dead, but it has just turned out to looking like he's super-saiyan Goku instead of wearing the crown.

[TehBrawlGuy]

He's the first person to claim a power that seems similar to mine (although not in an obvious way at all). The power is completely useless unless we're really off on how deeds works but beyond the weakness the use doesn't seem that strange.

UNVOTE: CheeryVOTE: Monkey Mostly I'm fine going through with either of AI or numberQ's slots. I can add more to why beyond other lynches being less appealing and if both replacements haven't done much outside of introducing themselves then vanishing.

And safety the point of a vig kill is to kill scum. Some people might advocate policy vigging (mostly since seeing someone shoot a town read since he disagrees isn't fun), but if you check vig shot histories the majority are based that player's scum reads even if the town disagrees (sometimes the fact town disagrees is a reason to shoot them even more).

The point of a vigilante is to shoot AntiTown players so that the days run smoothly, and ProScum (i.e. Scummy) if there are no/few AntiTown players.


I"m just still baffled by Jal claiming Vigilante after she's assuming Scum have a roleblocker by not lynching Medhi. I really don't like it. It seems possibly worth it to lynch her, since even if she's Town, it probably gets the card somewhere it won't be blocked. (whereas Scum may have card stealing/snatching powers or etc) I mean, you guys can't tell me two trackers, two watchers, and at least one vigil are out there without something to counterbalance it all.

[Lord Mhork]

If Cheery is going to be lynched, it wont be because some people don't like one of his cards.

What vig flavor do you want?

I'm probably going to vig Monkey person, Xis or Mhork, depending on the day. Mhork has been rubbing me wrong the entire day

P-edit: Everyone is probably listed as a "vanilla" goon or town. Lurker still had a power card. My only point being, someone did claim to have useless cards with no power.

I want to know what the card is that gives you these Vig powers.

I'm trying to paint a picture of Mhork's avatar dead, but it has just turned out to looking like he's super-saiyan Goku instead of wearing the crown.

Can I see?

[Jal]

That is the worst reasoning I have ever seen to ever lynch someone. Herp Derp, get the card back into the fold. Seriously? Herp derp scum end up getting card anyway during the night. Herpy derpy doo~ Hey, let's play a game, someone watch me tonight and see who visits me and if I get blocked or killed. Oh boy. I created a plan that doesn't plan on lynching town for utterly stupid anti-town reasoning.

P-edit: It's Park Place. I thought it said Free parking at first heh.

[Lord Mhork]

Also, brawly, if you're assuming that cards go random, why would you want to risk it flying into scum hands?

PEdit:
Holy shit! Park place? Really? Lucky! I wonder what it does in conjunction with boardwalk...

And basically what she said.

[TehBrawlGuy]

Also, brawly, if you're assuming that cards go random, why would you want to risk it flying into scum hands?

PEdit:
Holy shit! Park place? Really? Lucky! I wonder what it does in conjunction with boardwalk...

And basically what she said.

It makes no sense for Jal to claim it as Town, but if we have watchers, that's definitely better.

[guille2015]

I"m just still baffled by Jal claiming Vigilante after she's assuming Scum have a roleblocker by not lynching Medhi. I really don't like it. It seems possibly worth it to lynch her, since even if she's Town, it probably gets the card somewhere it won't be blocked. (whereas Scum may have card stealing/snatching powers or etc) I mean, you guys can't tell me two trackers, two watchers, and at least one vigil are out there without something to counterbalance it all.

Not a reason to think that Jal is scum. Unless she and Medhi are both scum, scum would know that they have a roleblocker so they would have known this plan will not face scrutiny.

With the consideration of the watchers it might work. But I see a problem that plan. As long as scum don't know what the problem is, they can't work around it.

[guille2015]

So, I'm kinda rereading everything that happened since I joined in. Let's start with monkey.

Did a readthrough and my scumreads are at the end of the post.

Spoiler:

Post #92 – Don’t like Robert’s stance on no lynching.
Post #138 – Good town post regarding Luker’s activity from Jal.
Post #148 – Baby Spice posts stats, but doesn’t want to back them up.
Post #157 – Good defence post from Lurker
Post #168 – Bad OMGUS vote from Lurker
Post #174 – Like Mehdi’s position on no-lynching.
Post #176 – Robert fence sitting on no lynching, this gets even worse.
Post #195 – Mog starts to go hard on Mehndi. Good scumhunting.
Post #210 – Mehdi is coming off as very defensive as Mog continues to attack.
Post #266 – Jake starts to attack StrangerCoug.
Post #273 – Disagree with mog on L-2 claims.
Post #286- Disagree with SC, Jones should be pretty town.
Post #325 – Discussion on hammering Lurker. Pretty sure I don’t like this wagon.
Post #342 – Liking Jal’s anti-Lurker wagon.
Post #374 – Lurker doesn’t seem scummy to me, SC continues lurker attack.
Post #385 – SC says Xis and Mhork are town, since SC is looking scummy, this does not make them look good.
Post #399 – Agree with jake that Baby Spice’s town list is bad. Esp Robert and SC.
Post #414 – BabySpice reveals she is an alt reluctant to give information on her other aliases.
Post #430 – Q defends SC…don’t think this is good. Votes Lurker, don’t think this is good either.
Post #462 – Jal defends Lurker
Post #501 – Defensive post from BabySpice
Post #508 – SC attacks and FOS’s Mehdi. Mehdi’s reaction seems more protown than SC’s attack.
Post #518 – Good baby spice vote by jal.
Post #526 – Finally SC does something townish and votes Baby.
Post #536 – Baby coming off as defensive again.
Post #552 – SC requests replacement when there’s a wagon on him. Scummy.
Post #578 - Even more defensiveness from babyspice, why not scumhunt?
Post #627 – Baby is obvscum. SC is obvscum.
Post #684 – Xis attacks babyspice. Good post
Post #695 – Lurker self votes. Pretty scummy. But I still think he’s probably desperate. town.
Post #705 – Good logic post from Jal
Post #709 – Brawl defends Lurker.
Post #726 – Jal Votes Lurker. Coming of as very wishy washy on him.
Post #737 – Liked Jake at the beginning, but his posts are becoming increasingly antagonistic towards townish people.
Post #749 – Jal unvotes, not liking the fencesitting, but still townish.
Post #769 – Good meta research by Uber, usually townish behavior.
Post #829 – Uber votes Jal, don’t agree with him, but I like his scumhunting.
Post #840 – Good alignment post from Uber.
Post #845 – Don’t agree with jake’s response to Uber.
Post #865 – Lurker claims scum? Will have to reevaluate some of my reads.
Post #886 – End of day 1. Looking back this makes Jal and SC look more town.
Post #915 – Jal makes a good point on Jake. He did get scummier as the lurker wagon progressed.
Post #947 – Good lurker vote from Mehdi
Post #953 – Good meta research from Mehdi.
Post #967 – Jake votes safety. Definitely something to watch later on.
Post #971 – Good post from Jal on why Robert is town.
Post #879 – Safety gets a night action result on mehdi.
Post #984 – Mehdi wagon continues

Current reads
Town
Safety
Jal
CheeryDog
Mehdi2277

Nuetral
Xisqomelir

Scum
Brawl
Jake from State Farm

1. Did you write this post as you read the thread?
2. You missed NumberQ. Any thoughts on his play?
3. I don't see why you place Medhi as town. Can you give me why this is?

[guille2015]

as per #505 I have two property cards. I also have a worthless community chest card I got last night.

I just got a pm from the mod saying I got a third card during the night he forgot about.

Can you please elaborate more on this?

[guille2015]

@Medhi: Why do you want me dead. Elaborate, please?

[Jal]

There is no reason for me, as scum or serial killer, to bring up the fact I have a vig card.

If I'm scum A) There is no reason to make-up a BS killing card claim suddenly when I haven't been tracked to a kill, or significant suspecion on me or whatever. I'd also be setting myself up to be CC killed during the night.
If I am SK B) I have no idea why I would tell scum who I am so they can try to night kill their competition.

If you think I am scum or the serial killer, then vote me. Otherwise, it just looks like you're putting suspicion onto me and encouraging others to vote for me without adding weight to the argument itself. It's scummy as shit. Last time I'll address this.

[Jal]

I think people forget there are a lot of deeds which haven't been shown yet, so we don't know what powers they have. I don't think anyone has claimed red, yellow, or dark green yet. There may be a lot of powers in those which can help scum do whatever things.

[Jal]

@Mod: If I use a 1 shot power and I am roleblocked, will my card go away?

[Jake from State Farm]

why don't you like a Mehndi lynch Jal?

[Jal]

Because I am unsure, you know, like I already explained.

Jake, this is what I don't get. You try to paint me as scummy for looking at the night kills, yet you look at the night kills yourself and try to attribute the Uber kill to me based on his death and what he said prior. That does not logically work out. How did you go from Cheery being scum, to Safety being the one lying between Cheery and him and between Safety and Medhi, to now thinking Medhi is scum?

[Jal]

Whatever.

VOTE: Medhi

[Jal]

That is either L-1 or L-2.

[Mehdi2277]

How does the whatever work. Or why not vote someone you want to vig? And anything else on mhork or was his entire lurker interactions fully fake along with what I said back when he did get wagoned day 1.

Guille does none of my posts referring to you explain why?

Safety/tbg you can check vig histories and you'll see that's almost never done. It's only recommended because people generally don't trust vigs if they aren't holding the vig kill.

[Mehdi2277]

L-2 I believe.

[Mehdi2277]

And tbg you're still underestimating the power (and treating it all town when we at least know one of the tracker cards did belong to scum).

[Mehdi2277]

Lastly no motivation ever given for me to fake claim protecting someone with a 1 shot doc I believe. I said I protected x. Safety says I didn't and I'm scummy for what?

[Jal]

Medhi, how does Cheery's card power justify taking your vote off of him?

[Mehdi2277]

My vote on him in the first place was connected to his card power. I thought about it more and changed my mind.

[Mehdi2277]

Jal why did you think I voted cheery?