Mini 1404 - Monopoly Mafia - Game Over

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

~Searching for a replacement for numberQ~

[Cheery Dog]

When I posted my reads list, that's the only time I ever posted any reas besides agreeing with lurker being caught and announcing Jal as town after UN's attacks of her.

[SafetyDance]

Possible yes. Done in about 1 percent of games on site this size also yes.

Ah ok. Well your electricity bill says otherwise. You stayed at home last night. No reason for VT to lie.

VOTE: Mehdi2277

Is this a claim to have picked up the Electricity company?
This confirms that dead player's card are randomly redistributed amongst surviving players then.[/quote]

Yes, I got the Electricity company card during the night that Lurker claimed he had. I tracked Mehdi and he did nothing.

Which I thought was a waste until he claimed to visit someone.

[Mehdi2277]

VOTE: Safety I'll need an explanation for this eventually, but for now I just asked gnr and found out my chance protect does count as a visit so 1 vs 1 does work (I don't believe safety would be rb'd when his slot was empty at night which is the only decent explanation other then one of us is scum).

[Mehdi2277]

It is now Day 2.

~SafetyDance replaces Robert2424~

So you did a night action while your slot was empty?

[SafetyDance]

Stupid tags, sorry don't know what when wrong.

Also just got a CC pm. Received $100 thanks to an XMAS fund.

Pedit: so you are lying? Fine. And you know there is a roleblocker? That is good to know too.

[SafetyDance]

It is now Day 2.

~SafetyDance replaces Robert2424~

So you did a night action while your slot was empty?

I replaced in during the night, GNR gave me the role pm and all the cards were in it.

Why don't you ask him?

[Mehdi2277]

Nah I'm fairly sure that you'd have made a really doubtful rb choice so that option is one I need not think of much is what that meant. Curious of what I said could have been interpreted as that though.

[Mehdi2277]

Nah I'm fairly sure that you'd have made a really doubtful rb choice so that option is one I need not think of much is what that meant. Curious of what I said could have been interpreted as that though.

[SafetyDance]

You mentioned it.

[Mehdi2277]

I mentioned an rb as an unlikely possibility on you and that became I knew there was an rb.

[Lord Mhork]

Wow I was behind. Sorry. Big points that popped out to me.

Okay. Both players look like they could have been killed for being scum by some Vig or SK. Going to say Baby Spice was killed by someone thinking she was scum and UberNinja was the defacto scum kill.

I'm thinking Uber was killed by someone who probably has played with him before. Once he gets his head out of his ass he actually can catch scum.

Why were you speculating on the night kills?

Jake, by the fact you think Baby Spice was the scum kill and Uber the SK kill, how is your obvious suspicion of me making sense? I thought Uber was probably town due to Lurker's wall.

Also, I still don't think there is a serial killer.

Why is that?

Tbg was the person I chose. I considered jal but I was expecting UN alive and assumed jal might be kept alive by scum to have un keep on fosing her.

Possible yes. Done in about 1 percent of games on site this size also yes.

You are saying this was a 1-shot doc thing? How did you get it?

[Mehdi2277]

Chance card. Jail free card (think the classic monopoly jail free card).

[Mehdi2277]

Anyways the bigger point to address mhork is me vs safety.

[Cheery Dog]

I mentioned an rb as an unlikely possibility on you and that became I knew there was an rb.

A roleblock could possibly have been on you though.

[SafetyDance]

PEdit - yeah:

I mentioned an rb as an unlikely possibility on you and that became I knew there was an rb.

A roleblock could possibly have been on you though.

To add, you still brought up roleblocking. It was at the forefront of your mind. You didn't even try to claim you yourself was rb'ed.

[Mehdi2277]

Cheery actually can likely guess why I did that. The chances of me being rb are a lot lower then one of us being scum.

[TehBrawlGuy]

Who do you currently think is town?

(note: I haven't ordered these this time)
Jal, Xis, Mhork, you (now that I'm in the game better, and interacting with you, I think I might have got the day 1 read wrong), and still slightly robert slot.
AI and numQ still haven't produced enough content for me to get a read of them, and I'm starting to think scum instead.
Jake's actions today have confused me slightly as well, and he has dropped into the nuller sections of my reads.

and that probably means I should be doing this as my now biggest scumread.
VOTE: TheBrawlGuy

Nobody by that name is playing.

Can whoever got the railroad that Lurker had claim now?

Starting Safety Dance/Robert ISO.

Cheery actually can likely guess why I did that. The chances of me being rb are a lot lower then one of us being scum.

Agreed. Why RB obvious watcher bait?

[Lord Mhork]

Anyways the bigger point to address mhork is me vs safety.

I have to pick? Why?

You both are sketch, but I was reading town on you. I do not see, though, why the use of a chance card wouldn't count as a visit. Nor do I see why you would even try to lie about taking an action when you didn't take one. That makes no real sense to me and I see no scum motivation. I wanna hear what the mod's ruling is before I consider voting you.

I'm a little confused, though, why he has the Electric Company. The mechanic of randomly redistributing properties after death doesn't really make sense to me, though, because that seems to go against the spirit of the 'screw your neighbor' flavor Monopoly. His push on you looks town motivated too though, 'cept for the whole having that card part.

A thought, maybe the cards get distributed among the faction responsible for a death? Would that make any sense? Random just seems too swingy and illogical. >.<

[Mehdi2277]

Random seems ideal. Especially if my theory that role powers become more powerful with sets is true and if they were true random at start that blocks sets from appearing if scum has some which they likely would.

I've already ask the mod on whether my card use counted as a visit and it does. Either a. his role is limited in a strange way, b. he got roleblocked when his slot appeared blank all night, c. I got role blocked which while nothing makes it too doubtful I just find all three of these options to be less likely then he's scum.

Tbg you're actually really wrong on what I meant with that comment, but I guess that can count as something else.

[Mehdi2277]

And the sets theory is partly pure monopoly spec and based on my own role (which I'd rather not claim now).

[SafetyDance]

Anyways the bigger point to address mhork is me vs safety.

I have to pick? Why?

You both are sketch, but I was reading town on you. I do not see, though, why the use of a chance card wouldn't count as a visit. Nor do I see why you would even try to lie about taking an action when you didn't take one. That makes no real sense to me and I see no scum motivation. I wanna hear what the mod's ruling is before I consider voting you.

I'm a little confused, though, why he has the Electric Company. The mechanic of randomly redistributing properties after death doesn't really make sense to me, though, because that seems to go against the spirit of the 'screw your neighbor' flavor Monopoly. His push on you looks town motivated too though, 'cept for the whole having that card part.

A thought, maybe the cards get distributed among the faction responsible for a death? Would that make any sense? Random just seems too swingy and illogical. >.<

You'll note I had a town read of mehdi before #947 too.

I have the EC card. It wasn't one of the original ones sent to Robert. I don't know how it was distributed but I have it and used it on Mehdi.

The result was Mehdi didn't do anything n1, so he's not one of the killers. Still, there's no reason to lie. Mehdi didn't send in the kill, so he's not alone which means a 3-maf team at least.

[Cheery Dog]

Cheery actually can likely guess why I did that. The chances of me being rb are a lot lower then one of us being scum.

So you are scum, and my read of you was correct during day 1 and what I've picked up here is what is wrong? You said before you thought that slot was town due to Robert double voting Jal and being genuine about it, so shouldn't you being RB'd be more possible?
I don't think Safety being roleblocked is a possibility for this scenario, as the site meta says that roleblocked trackers receive no result on someone if they are roleblocked, as with all other investigative roles. (though I see that question being asked every game that has a tracker/watcher in trouble with their role)

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Mehdi

[Mehdi2277]

Or mafiastuck connection with the rb theories currently. No result = didn't do anything in multiple games but the big problem is why rb a player who seems non existent.

[Mehdi2277]

And cheery thinking someone town isn't enough for me to say I was likely rb when he claims he didn't see me target tbg.