Mini 378- R&GAS: GAME OVER

[ThAdmiral]

Vote: Thadmiral

What a combinationame.

And what is bogre if not 'bog-ogre'?

[ThAdmiral]

We're back on finally, although I believe some of the later posts are missing. If anyone has any idea what where in them please tell the rest of us.
I remember the questions game but not much else.

[ThAdmiral]

The only R&G I am aware of are from Shakespeare.

They

are

from shakespeare, but are also used as the main characters in Tom Stoppard's (hes' the guy who wrote 'Shakespeare in Love' and 'The Fifteen-Minute Hamlet'...yeah, he likes his Shakespeare) play/film 'Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead' - which also happens to be the last line in 'Hamlet'. You should go see it, it's actually quite a good film. Although it's better if you've read/studied 'Hamlet' beforehand.

Hope this clears everything up.

Oh, and

Vote: Bogre

for not having unvoted me yet.




And for stealing cheese........

you bastad

[ThAdmiral]

I can't possibly watch all the films that are made now, can I?

Can't you?
You can at least try!

On a more serious note we should decide whether to lynch rich or not, and if not we should start looking for another potential target.

[ThAdmiral]

I may have not posted much content, but who was the one who gummed up the thread with the questions game pre-crash?

People in glass houses...

By the way, just had a look through the thread so far and it seems all your early posts were deleted in the crash. I don't think we lost much, but just in case we did, would you illuminate the rest of us on any content

you

may have had in your posts?

[ThAdmiral]

You

would

want to start a bandwagon on the person with the most votes. Desperate for a quick lynch? Scum.

[ThAdmiral]

Can either of you explain your clearly coordinated attack?

[ThAdmiral]

You

would

want to start a bandwagon on the person with the most votes. Desperate for a quick lynch? Scum.

Why would you answer this?

Didn't you notice that Rosso was the second vote, and thus by default couldn't have voted for the person with the most votes?

That's actually a fair point.

Still I don't like the fact that I'm being voted for by two people, neither of which seem to have a solid reason. Rosso said I hadn't been posting any content, but then who actually has? He certainly hasn't. If

you

have a reason I would like to hear it.

(by the way, where has everyone else gone?)

[ThAdmiral]

ThAdmiral, have you not noticed that an early tactic is to bandwagon and then generate discussion?

Don't you think this is what Rosso might be doing?

Are you being defensive?

Are you playing the bloody questions game again?
To answer your quesitons: yes, but that doesn't mean I have to like it when said bandwagon is on me. Also there can not be much discussion if the votes dont have any reasons behind them other than

simply trying to encourage discussion

. If you dont have a reason, then make one up and we can start a discussion from there, otherwise you dont really have a position to defend.

[ThAdmiral]

Do you think rogue_two is scummy?

Is this aimed at anyone in particular or everyone?

[ThAdmiral]

unvote, vote: rosso.

I obviously didn't like the bandwagon, and rogue-two's move makes it seem like they're in league together. If he comes up scum I'll be voting rogue-two tomorrow.

I don't like how maz medias just comes in says very little and then drops out again. His vote on the central scrutiniser is slightly suspicious as well, although there is at least some reasoning behind it.

[ThAdmiral]

Two things.

1. it looks like, from the dp, that serinha might have been a vigilante of some sort. What do you think.

2. are we now in lylo?

[ThAdmiral]

The "Thumbs down, life; thumbs up, death" line was what made me think she was a vig, but It doesn't say anything in the description so you're probably right. The main reason I was asking is because if she

was

she may have been the one who sent the hit in on maz. Otherwise we still have a working vig who's hit two townies so far or, and this is more likely, a serial killer.
Which means with three mafia (likely) and a serial killer we have a 50% chance of hitting scum.

The cop should probably speak up now.

[ThAdmiral]

Sorry, bad maths. 4 out of 7 means a 57% percent chance of hitting scum!

[ThAdmiral]

Wow, so this is lame. I suppose everyone's out for the holidays or something. I'm going to go ahead and confirm my previous insinuations by

voting: ThAdmiral

and

FoS: HackerHuck

for obvious role fishing.

If you didn't catch it earlier

WE'RE IN LYLO

!!!

It seems you're afraid of a cop claiming and revealing their investigations.

Vote: the central scrutinizer

.

[ThAdmiral]

Alright hands up if you seriously think there are only two mafia in a twelve player game. I certainly don't. I believe

strongly

that we are now in lylo, and I think that we should do everything possible to ensure that we do not hit another town member. So far it doesn't look like we've lost the doc so I don't see how it's scummy of me to suggest that the cop should reveal his investigations. Otherwise we're just shooting in the dark, and that's already failed us twice now.

Unvote: central scrutinizer

Jules, you are right, I didn't really get a scum vibe from him before this day and I think he may just be misunderstanding/misjudging the situation we are in so I will unvote him for now. But his mafia conspiracy theory is ridiculous. As I already said the doc is still around, and every night that goes by just means it gets more and more likely the cop will be killed without revealing anything, since there are two (how shall I put this) killing entities around, neither of which have done anything to help the town as of yet. I think we have a serial killer on our hands, but if it is a vig, can you bloody sharpen up!

[ThAdmiral]

Why do you just keep assuming that certain roles exist?

1. Every other game of mafia I have played in/looked at/heard about. Plus this wasn't advertised as a vanilla game.
2. There are two killing roles, neither of which seem pro-town. It would be a

little

unbalanced if there wasn't a cop/doctor.
3. The better question is why

don't you

think there's a cop and a doctor?

[ThAdmiral]

2. There are two killing roles, neither of which seem pro-town. It would be a

little

unbalanced if there wasn't a cop/doctor.

Two nights in a row we have had a townie die. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the SK/Vig has no idea what anybody's roles are. Since both are acting on incomplete information, as are well all, both are equally likely to nightkill town twice in a row.

So again, you're making an assumption about the alignment of the SK/Vig. How the hell do you get off doing that? Maybe you

know

it's an SK because you

are

the SK? I don't see why else you would continue to make this assertion.

If

I

was a vig who was forced to put in a kill each night I would reveal myself and let the town as a whole decide who to kill, rather than just randomly targetting people.

I don't really understand why you're attacking me so singlemindedly so I will restate my main points:
- I believe there is both a cop and doctor around.
- I believe that there are three mafia, as such I think we are in Lylo.
- I know that there are two killing entities, and I believe the non-mafia one to be a serial killer, although I admit it is possible it is a vig.
- I believe the cop should come forward now with any investigations as another day without could very possibly lead to another town lynch, and another night could lead to the cop being killed by one of the two killing entities (as you said: even a vig acting with incomplete information could kill the cop).

Anyway, if there isn't a cop, as you seem to think, then it doesn't matter either way if I'm asking him to claim.

[ThAdmiral]

I went away over new years, but I am back now. I'll post again later.

[ThAdmiral]

Sorry for the lack of content, I've been busy lately.

I was going to post some long winded thing about how central scrutinizer isn't the cop, that he's just scum and he's lying about the fact that im guilty to get people to mislynch and then lose. But I am not going to do that.

I

am

guilty.

But wait! I am NOT mafia. I am a serial killer, and if we are indeed in lylo, as i strongly believe is the case, I may be the only way to turn this game around for the town. I put it to you that you use me as a vigilante: you choose the player and I target them over night.
Look at the facts:
If there are 3 mafia - If you lynch me you lose as there will be three mafia and three town left.
If there are 2 mafia - in my opinion this is less likely, however if this is the case the town could win in one swoop with a correct lynch and correct targeting by me during night.

This might sound a bit crazy to you but consider it first before simply hammering me. I am no threat during the day so take your time to decide if you simply want to lynch me today and risk losing or lynch me later. My role is William Shakespeare by the way, and if you want to know what is in it for me, well I guess i like the town better, and i would get to play for another day.

[ThAdmiral]

first night: nightson
second night: maz medias

even if we can lynch mafia today, he can defect and NK town, leaving us at 1
SK, 1 Mafia, and 2 Town--> town loss.

Even if i did defect I would be the next lynch for sure, leading to a mafia win. Either way I lose and like I said I like the town better.

[ThAdmiral]

After rereading a couple times, I think that Jules and Bogre are the most likely scum. They are the ones most likely to play the question game.

I think it may be unwise to lynch HH on the off-chance that he's a Jester.

Yeah, I haven't much liked bogre from the start so I'm all for his lynch.

vote:bogre

[ThAdmiral]

I will hit jules