Kingmaker II-Game Over

Fritzler · Post Post #475 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:49 pm

petroleumjelly wrote:Jeez, that was silly. Thought I had included everybody.

w/e scum partners

MrBuddyLee · Post Post #476 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:54 pm

Glork, Mert?

MrBuddyLee · Post Post #477 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:12 pm

Rosso, Twomz, CTD.

There's definitely 75% more scum in thar than in your average batch of bad apples.

I'd go with Twomz personally cause he was full of excuses yet never found the time to get er done. CTD isn't his normal useful self which is significant. And Rosso's uselessness is a slightly scummier flavor than usual due to extreme chirpiness.

There are other people who are scummy as well by inactivity but I'd give em a day to snap out of it. Rikimaru and Pooky, to call out two. Town's made it easy for a scum king to execute whoever the fuck he wants today without looking bad. Nice work, lazy bastards.

BrianMcQueso · Post Post #478 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:01 am

King PJ wrote:Mod, what time zone is the deadline in? Can I have until 11:59 pm my time?

You got it. We're in the same time zone, which is Pacific Standard. For time zone comparison, this post is being made at 4 am (which is why you're not getting a vote count right now). Also, remember rule:

Rule wrote:If I post a deadline and the King fails to make an execution in the allotted time, the King will be executed for his incompetence.

King PJ wrote:Mod, if I do not execute Bird1111 today, can he be replaced by somebody more active?

Yes. I will be dealing with replacements over the night for inactives.

Glork · Post Post #479 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:20 am

What about Mert?

Twomz · Post Post #480 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:25 am

MBL wrote:I'd go with Twomz personally cause he was full of excuses yet never found the time to get er done.

^^^ This is true... but normally i won't take the effort for a reread on Day 1 unless I see a good reason for it.

MrBuddyLee · Post Post #481 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:33 am

You commented on 16 players but not on Mert, Glork. Since he's said a few notable things, I figured maybe you could give us your opinion on him.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #482 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:14 am

i didn't "drop" it glork

I got tired of people not listening to me and went to pout in the corner.

Glork · Post Post #483 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:04 am

MrBuddyLee wrote:You commented on 16 players but not on Mert, Glork. Since he's said a few notable things, I figured maybe you could give us your opinion on him.

Do you even read this fucking game? Do you remember a few pages back when I questioned Mert and asked him to thoroughly explain the reasons for his votes? Did you read his extensive responses?

Why, oh why do you insist on being an absolute

idiot

, MBL?

Glork · Post Post #484 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:05 am

Also, I *really* like my Pooky vote now.

MrBuddyLee · Post Post #485 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:22 am

Glork wrote:
MrBuddyLee wrote:You commented on 16 players but not on Mert, Glork. Since he's said a few notable things, I figured maybe you could give us your opinion on him.
Do you even read this fucking game? Do you remember a few pages back when I questioned Mert and asked him to thoroughly explain the reasons for his votes? Did you read his extensive responses?

Why, oh why do you insist on being an absolute
idiot
, MBL?

Glork, you asking Mert about his vote does not equal you telling us your opinion on Mert.

Ergo, if there's an idiot, it's you. lrn2read.

Your failure to include him on your review of 16 players is noted. Particularly considering you pretended to grill him on his votes.

Glork · Post Post #486 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:47 am

I said I was satisfied with his response for the time being. That's going to have to be enough for you right now. I'm not going to give a freaking novel on everybody.

Glork · Post Post #487 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:48 am

Also, your attempts to link me to Mert specifically have also been noted. If I made comments on 16 other people, then there are 7 people that I did not make comments towards. You might want to note my failure to include them in my "review" as well.

pablito · Post Post #488 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:18 pm

Yes, Glork had to comment on me so many times that it didn't leave enough room for others. I still find Mert suspicious though. I'm not removing that vote.

Even though I have not found primary evidence of them being scummy in my eyes, I do believe the following two targets could be worthy of an execution based on their attacker's arguments: Pooky and CrashTextDummie.

I would strongly support for a Rosso Carne execution above most (at this moment in time with ChannelDelibird and Mert next in line). I suspect him for different reasons that Glork has brought up, but I find Rosso's absence to be highly suspicious...especially considering the zeal that he had when coming into the game. I'm still unsure if it's damningly scummy, but it's the scummiest non-move in this game so far.

Still though, I think perhaps heavy pressure in the next day may be enough to get a response from either bird1111 or Rosso. I don't know if execution without defending oneself is the best course of action today, but it may be the only course of action we have due to the deadline.

Mastermind of Sin · Post Post #489 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:22 pm

Just don't kill Phoebus

Glork · Post Post #490 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:13 pm

Is anybody around? Only like 3.5 hours to go. I'd like to know what people are thinking right now....

MrBuddyLee · Post Post #491 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:19 pm

Glork wrote:Also, your attempts to link me to Mert specifically have also been noted. If I made comments on 16 other people, then there are 7 people that I did not make comments towards. You might want to note my failure to include them in my "review" as well.

::LAMEPOSTING::

Glork · Post Post #492 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:33 pm

No legitimate response to me, MBL? Did you realize that yet again you failed to make me look like scum? At this point are you just trying to baselessly troll me because you think you can get the better of me one way or another?

'cause I'm having fun. Keep it coming, mate.

pablito · Post Post #493 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:48 pm

Maybe PJ's deciding to off himself by not submitting a choice.

Glork · Post Post #494 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:51 pm

He's got 3 hours. And he's well aware of that. PJ will show... I just wish we knew what he was thinking ahead of time.

Thok · Post Post #495 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:03 pm

Not much to say at the moment. I'm not sure PJ needs to be flooded with more info at the last second.

Glork · Post Post #496 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:05 pm

Flooded with more info? With PJ, more is always better. We both know that.

Glork · Post Post #497 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:06 pm

EBWODP: Heck, in general, more talk/info is better. Why on earth would you suggest otherwise, Thok?

Thok · Post Post #498 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:11 pm

It's not like I'm or anybody is going to have a sudden inspiration in the last couple hours. I'm willing to let PJ read the thread and make his own analysis at this point.

If we weren't three hours from deadline, I wouldn't make these comments.

pablito · Post Post #499 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:13 pm

In the following analysis I hypothesize what might happen should each of the listed be executed. I do not claim to know these people's alignment (looking at you cbox), but I'm assuming a pro-town execution to see what information we can take out of a badly executed execution. It is obviously best to execute scum today but our lack of intent investigation has prevented us from attaining optimal odds.

My guess is that bird1111 is highest on PJ's list but the fact that bird1111 has been an extreme non-poster in this game is making PJ reconsider it slightly. I mean, bird1111 has barely even bothered to defend himself. I wonder if a replacement on bird1111 will make us suspect the replacement less or even more and whether that's the path that we want to take. Also, is there enough compelling evidence alone by bird's lurking actions to find him as our best option as scum?

I'm intrigued by PJ's extremely sudden inclusion of Rosso. I like it, but I have to wonder what the thought process for PJ was. At the same time, if we're wrong about Rosso, there's nearly no evidence for us to go on from there. The only people who have voiced concerns on Rosso are Glork and me. And both of us are fairly visible enough that a Rosso execution (which turns up with Rosso as town) won't necessarily change people's minds on us. It might cause some to tip over the edge. But the progression of the Rosso wagon was so quick and so out of nowhere that if there was scum intervention, it's so obvious it hurts. And Glork and I are already so visible, so there would be no significant information on us, but it would give us info on PJ and possibly some other info.

A Phoebus execution seems possible. I don't like that possibility because I don't think we've fully thought out Phoebus yet today (although that is something that can be said for everyone but cbox, MoS, and Pablito). And I don't value the scumtells the same way that the town values the scumtells on Phoebus. I think a lot of people were trying to grab something out of thin air with Phoebus. I don't yet think Phoebus is completely pro-town, but the wagon on him and the deduction used is so pallid that a Phoebus execution is probably going to end with a town death. Nonethless, knowing his confirmation for sure can give us some insight into others in this game. But I don't think that a Phoebus death is well worth that information.

As for Pooky. Even before you Glork said anything, I had a gut feeling on him. But I can't give more of an argument than that. Something felt off. And interestingly, Rosso's comments made it even more visible. But as I stated before with Rosso's blurb, a Pooky death wouldn't give us any added information if he turns out town.