Open 465 - Wot's... Uh the Deal? (Game Over! Town Win!)

[guille2015]

My problem here is that I see too many pro-town things in both Adam and hawk. Not enough in Levi.

I need Adam and Hawk to post why Levi is town that does not include "Adam/Hawk is scum".

@Mantis: the reason I want to wait is because I am in my vacation. Typing on the phone is uncomfortable. And I don't think I can give this game the required 100%.

Vote Count

ProHawk (L-2): Adam-12

Adam-12 (L-1): ProHawk, Leviathan93

Not Voting: - Mantisdreamz, Guile

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Day Three has begun. Deadline is Thursday, Jan 17th (I think?) at 3:00 PM EST

[Mantisdreamz]

My problem here is that I see too many pro-town things in both Adam and hawk. Not enough in Levi.

I need Adam and Hawk to post why Levi is town that does not include "Adam/Hawk is scum".

@Mantis: the reason I want to wait is because I am in my vacation. Typing on the phone is uncomfortable. And I don't think I can give this game the required 100%.

would you be mad if i voted Adam?

[Adam-12]

It was that post that brought me to vote Thor over you yesterday but the problem is now you are the only person left in that list which means you have to be scum. There isn't much more I have to say about it only that if we don't lynch Hawk today, we need to be very sure that Guille is 100% not scum & Levi is 100% not scum so that we are prepared for them to vote Hawk in LYLO because he won't go easy as is evidenced from his transition from D2-D3.

[Mantisdreamz]

also.. completely understandable that you can't give the game 100%. you're on vacation.

plus, i think everyone knows that you are town.

@guille.

[ProHawk]

I will run through Levi's ISO, but I have seen a ton of scummy things slip from Levi, so I am not too sure I can say he is town. He hammered on Bork without letting him claim, stupid scum move IMO, but it doesn't rule out the possibility.

[Mantisdreamz]

It was that post that brought me to vote Thor over you yesterday but the problem is now you are the only person left in that list which means you have to be scum. There isn't much more I have to say about it only that if we don't lynch Hawk today, we need to be very sure that Guille is 100% not scum & Levi is 100% not scum so that we are prepared for them to vote Hawk in LYLO because he won't go easy as is evidenced from his transition from D2-D3.

why does he have to be scum? what about the hammer that Levi did?

[ProHawk]

So Adam, you are 100% sure that scum didn't bus D1?

[Adam-12]

Ya for me to make a case on Levi being town I would need to go through his entire ISO basically pointing out his early game play and how only experienced scum could play like that. Then the way he voted Bork to me looked so townie, I just can't even believe its a bus.

When you look at Levi, you have to look beyond the surface. From him to be scum and deliberately playing that way would require more skill than would make sense.

[Adam-12]

So Adam, you are 100% sure that scum didn't bus D1?

I think it is clear you did not bus but were confident that your Mala lynch was going through and chose to defend Bork instead.

[Mantisdreamz]

Ya for me to make a case on Levi being town

..being scum you mean

[Adam-12]

No I mean town. Levi is town in my eyes.

[ProHawk]

Hang-on Mantis, I am reading on Levi's ISO and he has some weird interaction with Codex while he was completely inactive.

UNVOTE:

I am going to unvote just so you don't think I am being self-righteous in telling you not to hammer.

[ProHawk]

My begging looked like a Mala lynch was going through to you?

[leviathan93]

ahhh!! ok. UNVOTE: VOTE: hawk I Think id rather lynch hawk first and then lynch adam the next day. either way. i want to lynch them both at this time. mantis is town. Im town. and I want to say guille is town at the moment. i hope to god he is...

[Adam-12]

My begging looked like a Mala lynch was going through to you?

I think you were more than confident it was going through until Levi said he was going to hammer, yes.

[ProHawk]

Why is that Levi? You worried because I don't hold you in high esteem?

[Mantisdreamz]

Hang-on Mantis, I am reading on Levi's ISO and he has some weird interaction with Codex while he was completely inactive.

UNVOTE:

I am going to unvote just so you don't think I am being self-righteous in telling you not to hammer.

i don't think you are scum prohawk. If Adam wasn't, I was going to ask about Levi next. Even though, i really don't think even Levi is. Which is why i'm willing to hammer/lynch Adam. (sorry Adam)

[Mantisdreamz]

ahhh!! ok. UNVOTE: VOTE: hawk I Think id rather lynch hawk first and then lynch adam the next day. either way. i want to lynch them both at this time. mantis is town. Im town. and I want to say guille is town at the moment. i hope to god he is...

wrong!!!!

[Mantisdreamz]

Levi, judging from Adam's latest posts, i am getting the sense that he is scum and it's getting uncomfortable for him. Prohawk still seems relaxed.

[Mantisdreamz]

if it's not Adam, i would look at you Levi

[Adam-12]

Well Mantis, you are the only confirmed town in the game and how LYLO happens is up to you. I just think that if we lynch Hawk there won't be a LYLO but again, if Hawk lives to LYLO, what should Guille, Levi and himself do?

[ProHawk]

Adam, did you actually go read Levi's scum game?

[guille2015]

My problem here is that I see too many pro-town things in both Adam and hawk. Not enough in Levi.

I need Adam and Hawk to post why Levi is town that does not include "Adam/Hawk is scum".

@Mantis: the reason I want to wait is because I am in my vacation. Typing on the phone is uncomfortable. And I don't think I can give this game the required 100%.

would you be mad if i voted Adam?

Not mad. Annoyed. I'd rather find scum with a contingency plan agreed with 4 town players then to go to LYlo in the current position we are. Were actually, I think I am more comfortable with how things are going.

Adam. I want your case on Levi. I get that you are saying that scum did not bus, I am in agreement with that, but not as sure as you are though. The problem is that Levi did not really bus. Technically he was forced to vote by hawk. I wonder why hawk didn't vote himself though. Did he think that mala was L-1 and espected Levi to vote for mala. I think that's not the case.

I'm having a hard time voting for either Adam or hawk because of that.

[Adam-12]

Well he didn't force Levi to vote him because Levi had

already

declared that he would be voting Bork; Hawk just saw that it was inevitable at that point.

I will do a thorough read up on Levi and post my thoughts.

[leviathan93]

UNVOTE: God DAMN! im getting really annoyed by people convincing me to change my votes. =/ and almost forcing me too, because im so fucking unsure in this situation.