Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Legacy (Game Over)

[pidgey]

I am hermione granger, VT.

What do you mean by scumplaining, Nero? I dont even get what you are saying at all and what is concerning to me is that as soon as I put in the table the slight possibility that you and mastin could be scum you go out of your way to call me scum for not giving any continuity to a respond from yates that kinda didnt need one. His team didnt made sense and it still doesnt, that doesnt make him scum though. You yourself are still probably town though.

My stance on myk has nothing to do with outguess the mod, and if you had read the game at all youd knew that.
Wait nevermind you arent reading i just read what you said to jason.

Seriously i believe acosmist is scum but no one is lynching him today so dumb I guess.

Ill reread tomorrow when I have more time and try to clear my head in this game.

[Acosmist]

Seriously the more you say that the more I want to lynch you

if you're town, stop right now

[AngryPidgeon]

Phone posting on vacation.

Yates, who did you target each night. Are you a flavor/pseudo cop? Like you could have gotten a guilty on Benmage?

[AngryPidgeon]

Quick,points on KK:

Him giving jason a pass on the P1 slip looks off. Town KK would have been more paranoid.
His vote/uncote today looks fake. If he were actually concerned about mylo, then his vote doesn't make sense. But he have enough of a fuck to unvote for Kise.
He id pushing me for voting Tammy. Bs. Also note he was voting her a lot of D2 then changed his mind. Yet I am scummy for changing mine.
Generally coasting all gsme. Only real push in recent Days was on me for voting Tammy.

I just dont get a genuine feel from KK. oh also his acosmist push which he had now apparently forgot about. He never cared that mykonian refused to target scum-acosmist.

[mastin2]

FUCK YOU MASTIN I TRUSTED YOU.

And if you're town, you still can, but I'm preeeeeeeeeetty sure you're scum, here, myk.

Not just for the vote, though I'd be lying if I said that it didn't contribute. But for this

How the bloody hell could anyone think that at this point it would be a good idea to lynch Jason "to have him confirmed"?

As your reason when I have already switched votes from jason (having decided myself that it's a bad idea), combined with this

Because it served no purpose other then angering him. Nobody ever followed. That means at least couple townies apparently think someone who has no concrete reads right now (like, his only read, on me, he's weakened recently "because it might be the rage talking" or something like that) is a townlike character. I'd lynch him with all pleasure but you guys rather lose to pidgey scum, it seems. I wasted my days on him, now someone else can do the work if they want him lynched.

...Which doesn't seem pro-town at all, combined with MoI dieing after having pushed so hard on myk-scum, combined with a fairly anti-town usage of the role and anti-town version of it (annonymous messages) along with MoI's death after speculating about one of {Nero, myk} being scum (and me trusting Nero more), along with in general fairly scummy play, along with condemning interactions with Yates and Khan.

Soyeah. I think you're scum, but I'd be the first to admit the above is less-than-stellar reasoning. Go shoot it full of holes; I could use your defense against it to help me get a stronger read.

[mastin2]

Mastin- You mentioned i am town because i sometimes have unique arguments and like, i bring good points or something. What do you refer too?

Stuff like this in your posts.

No, seriously, this is exactly the kind of thought process from you which shows that you definitely look like you're thinking for yourself and trying to make sense of things. It's littered through your iso. If I weren't on vacation, maybe I could go through the trouble of quoting it all, but really, the list of things which show original thought is much longer than things which don't.

So quite frankly, the answer's right there in your iso. It's pretty self-explanatory, really. You bring up original thoughts, which often are strong, and many times I find myself going, "wow, that's actually a dang-good post" for one reason or another, be it a good thought, good reasoning, good insight, good question, whatever.

[mastin2]

Okay, since it appears my claim is holding things up...

I am Alastor "Mad Eye" Moody, a pure-blood wizard and the most powerful Auror of all time. As such, I am a highly trained specialist able to identify anyone performing crimes related to Dark Arts [can tell if the person I'm watching uses Dark Arts]. Half the cells of Azkaban are filled thanks to me. I also have a magic eye that lets me see through anything including invisible cloaks [can't be blocked].

I can tell you at this time that Nero does NOT dabble in the Dark Arts.

You can't get more scumclaimed than this.

Yates is claiming HP-specific cop.
When we had Benmage, also an HP character, able to detect ALL scum, as proven by the Tammy result he got N1.

[mastin2]

Also, Yates only claiming a result on Nero but not others despite having had five days to check is also pretty bullshit.

[Yates]

Are you a flavor/pseudo cop? Like you could have gotten a guilty on Benmage?

My Role PM says I can tell if someone practices "Dark Arts." I asked Pappums if that meant I can tell if someone is an "evil doer" in general but he said he couldn't be more specific. So it sounds like probably a flavor cop?

I don't believe I would have gotten a "guilty" on Benmage as his power wouldn't have come from a "dark" place.

Yates, who did you target each night.

Nero N4

Yates only claiming a result on Nero but not others despite having had five days to check is also pretty bullshit.

Is it? How many shots do I have, Mastin? The reason I specifically mention Nero is because I was suspicious of him Day 4 and MoI had me thinking he could be a scum neighborizer.

Speaking of MoI - coincidence that this was his last post before being NKed??

Seriously I recant my "not likely to be Town" read on Mastin.

He's scum.

[jasonT1981]

Phone posting on vacation.

Yates, who did you target each night. Are you a flavor/pseudo cop? Like you could have gotten a guilty on Benmage?

This, why not claim what other results you got when making the claim?

[jasonT1981]

Wait, reading above, have you only used your power once, in night 4?

hmmmm

why not other nights?

[jasonT1981]

vote:Yates

not buying the whole only used my power once thing.

This is a role that potentailly acts in the same way as a cop does. Can find out if someone is into black arts or not....

Using it only once is BS

[jasonT1981]

vote:Yates

not buying the whole only used my power once thing.

This is a role that potentailly acts in the same way as a cop does. Can find out if someone is into black arts or not....

Using it only once is BS

[Kublai Khan]

Him giving jason a pass on the P1 slip looks off. Town KK would have been more paranoid.
His vote/uncote today looks fake. If he were actually concerned about mylo, then his vote doesn't make sense. But he have enough of a fuck to unvote for Kise.
He id pushing me for voting Tammy. Bs. Also note he was voting her a lot of D2 then changed his mind. Yet I am scummy for changing mine.
Generally coasting all gsme. Only real push in recent Days was on me for voting Tammy.

I just dont get a genuine feel from KK. oh also his acosmist push which he had now apparently forgot about. He never cared that mykonian refused to target scum-acosmist.

1. Were you told how paranoid Town KK is by your scummates? Because you've never played with Town KK. Until this game of course.
2. It's not fake. None of that is scummy BTW.
3. Wow, you summarized a huge case down to a single line. Now it doesn't sound as convincing.
4. Coasting? I'm sorry I don't quad-post everytime I need to get a thought across and therefore bloat this fucking game to nigh-unreadable levels. I've been posting consistently and with plenty of content. That's a bullshit accusation.

I abandoned the Acosmist push after writing out the setup and getting scolded by MagnaofIllusion. Since the Messenger and the Neighborizer are confirmable roles (thought not alignment confirmed), I can see a moderator crafting a setup where town has to try to force those roles to test themselves against a reflexive PGO-type role. That was the point where I dropped it.

And yes, mykonian is scum for refusing to target Acosmist.

[pidgey]

ROFL.

Im at work but what the hell is with mastin "pretty sure" myk is scum when myk was TOWN ALL GAME.

[pidgey]

Yates each night is not just N4 wtf.

All your targets pls.

Also why did you said at the beginning of the day that you had reasons to not claim until later today? You like, hinted you had a good role related reason but im not seeing it at all with your claim.

[pidgey]

Also im the first to admit that, while you may think im town because i sound genuine and I guess I do ask original thoughts and stuff like that, my iso can be town but it cant be a lot of good posts and a lot of good content (what im saying is that i kinda suck this game).

Then again, Im still not sure mastin not being town with that VT claim in DAY FKN 2. Unless he is a godfather. I dunno. Will see more after work

[Yates]

You like, hinted you had a good role related reason but im not seeing it at all with your claim.

I did, didn't I. And you're right, you don't see it all with my claim. Again, I'm not claiming all of my results for a reason. Sorry. You just have to wait.

[jasonT1981]

So you have info that could potentially clear/condem someone but wont claim it?

hmmm

[pidgey]

From phone

Its mylo probably. I dont want you taking any chances. Nor do I want you to be all shush shush about it.

[pidgey]

PD: acosmist is scum and town should really fkn get its act together.

[pidgey]

probably scum im not sure anymore about anything

Acosmist you never really asked what flavor would your kills show on the Opening Post/whenever your target died. You just said you are a FOXdie carrier. Like, did you asked when would your kills would end up dying? Like, is it fixed time or something? Or wat?

[pidgey]

OUT OF ALLIGNMENT

So like there was a massive shoot massacer on my city (im from mexico) couldnt really reread like i intended to because i was with family and crap. Will try to assess this game tomorrow

[mastin2]

Spoiler: rambling

Speaking of MoI - coincidence that this was his last post before being NKed??

If I were scum, MoI would be at the bottom of my kill priority list. Seriously, he was in the suspect pool for half the town--not very high on it, but high enough on it that a mislynch would definitely have been on the table. All it'd take is a single BS post by me to rekindle my MoI fire. Yeah, it'd antagonize him, but at this point in the game, it'd be a perfectly viable strategy regardless of whether I won or lost.

(Granted...there's not a lot of kills I actually *could* make. I couldn't kill Nero, as he'd support me, I couldn't kill AP for much the same, I couldn't kill pidgey or myk as both of them have backed me up, I couldn't kill Aco for obvious reasons, so it'd probably be jason, who is basically claiming to be a lynch-activated tree stump. Unless of course I was scum with jason, in which case it'd be...well, whoever's left, I guess. {Khan, Kise, Yates} The name(s) in there which wouldn't be my scumbuddy. Probably not Khan for the simple reason of pride, though.

All that said, this is pretty much just guesswork, since, well, I'm not scum so the whole debate is something which I have to force myself into thinking.)

but what the hell is with mastin "pretty sure" myk is scum when myk was TOWN ALL GAME.

Not ALL the game, only MOST of the game.
Butyeah. Golden Rule #2, reads to fit the evidence, NOT evidence to fit the reads. My read on myk has simply evolved from what it was. In no other time is it as important as right now for me to show that critical level of doubt and re-evaluation.

Hence, why I want myk to come in and dismantle my reasoning for him being scum. I want people to comment on it, and I want to receive feedback.
Also, for this very reason, I'm hearing the argument (BS as it is--no seriously, you can't get much worse BS than this ) for Yates being town, even though I'm a good 90% sure he's scum.
And for that very reason, I'm hearing Khan out on his AP-is-scum stance, despite me being a good....oh, probably 85% certain that AP's town and 80% sure Khan's scum.

If it weren't for this blasted vacation, I'd be doing a full reread (well, continuing the one I started before I left, anyway ), but since I am on the LA, that means that I'll just have to make do with what I've got, which is primarily the content of the thread being posted now, combined with my memory of past events (BAAAAAAAAAD idea to rely on my memory; IT LIES! But I don't really have a choice, thanks to how difficult it is to go check out every single fact I think of) and quite a lot of gut.

Butyeah. While I fully endorse town players showing paranoia in lylo, pidgey (it might not show so obviously, but I am EXTREMELY paranoid when I live this long ), you

can

trust me; I am town. You have my word, this is not my scumplay. I'm not fond of using meta to defend myself, but really, if you've seen my games since my return, the difference is pretty much as clear as night and day.

Scum play, lurking and lacking direction; starting off strong but getting weaker and weaker as suspicion begins to mount; showing extreme caution and relying heavily on scumbuddies.
Town play, active and always having focus (albeit a focus which tends to change--goldfish memory ahoy! ); starting off decently, but getting much weaker in the mid-game as I begin to let apathy kick in, and then suddenly near the endgame, kicking into high-gear, not caring how suspicious people are of me, showing an extreme amount of recklessness and not afraid to be independant of others.

[Acosmist]

VOTE: pidgey

about all I have to say. Hopefully we don't have a kdowns situation that loses us the game. If so, oh well. Can't play a team game with utter retards. I'll stick to chess after that.