Dealing with Chronic Lurkers

Fiasco · Post Post #75 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:02 am

I think the M's might be a little unbalanced. They have 3 of the top 5 posters.

Fritzler will eat them for breakfast.

But yeah, some letters might have to be split into two and others (Q and X?) might have to be combined.

Mgm · Post Post #76 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:11 am

RangeroftheNorth wrote:I think the M's might be a little unbalanced. They have 3 of the top 5 posters.

Go Team M!

rajrhcpfreak · Post Post #77 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:12 am

R's kinda suck.

we have me, roland, rosso, and rathyr

dont get me wrong the four of us is solid. but me as the top poster for the R's is alot of responsiblity.

QR sounds like a nice combo.

RangeroftheNorth · Post Post #78 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:13 am

HEy, don't count me out.

Fiasco · Post Post #79 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:13 am

Mgm wrote:Go Team M!

Which one?

rajrhcpfreak · Post Post #80 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:17 am

sry ranger, i was looking at the top 150 posters. i jsut looked at all QR's over 100 posts and we have about 19 people. some have left :'(

i really want quag and quail

Fiasco · Post Post #81 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:24 am

You could make it a mini.

AB-CD-EFG-HIJ-KL-M-NO-PQ-RS-T-UVW-XYZ ?

rajrhcpfreak · Post Post #82 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:31 am

there was alrady a mini i think.

Fiasco · Post Post #83 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:33 am

Well, yes, but it wasn't

this

mini.

rajrhcpfreak · Post Post #84 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:35 am

oo found it. http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2596

minis would take too much time to get through the sign ups. the amount of time for me to wait for the R game would be forever.

Fiasco · Post Post #85 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:38 am

That one's different, though. This would have site-wide teams determined by starting letters. There would be no signups, because

EVERYONE

could post. They'd receive the role PM for their letter after their first post.

I'm imagining one game with one role for each letter, not one game for each letter.

Signup month-based teams would also work well for a mini, though there'd probably be a bias toward "recent" months. Team September for the win! (I'm trying to ruin the site here by raising a lot of primitive tribal consciousness and strife and division and stuff. Please humor me and play along.)

rajrhcpfreak · Post Post #86 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:45 am

kinda like this: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2934

Fiasco · Post Post #87 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:57 am

Kinda, but with a two-headed-mafia-like mechanic, and potentially site-wide teams that are known in advance. Letters don't flake as often as individual people.

ISO · Post Post #88 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:19 pm

Think it would have to fall under my "Special" heading as far as Queue goes; the Mod(s) would have to be very dedicated to keep up with the number of people that could potentially be posting. But it certainly sounds like a fun idea.

(Hey, do the M's get the Mod on our team?

)

Yosarian2 · Post Post #89 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2006 3:44 pm

Fiasco wrote:Come to think of it, another approach I think has a lot of potential is the tag-team approach (as in Two-Headed).

Hey! You know what'd be fun? A game where everyone could play, with the whole site divided into a number of "players" based on something like the first letter of their username or their join month. Anyone making their first post in the game thread would be sent one of the roles. Team F for the win!

Me and Yaw vs. everyone else. Sounds like fun.

al_kohaulec · Post Post #90 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2006 3:46 pm

sweet, I get ameliaslay.

That's the only one I can think of off the top of my head. It sounds... interesting.

Yosarian2 · Post Post #91 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2006 4:06 pm

Anyway, getting back to the topic of conversaton...

ibaesha wrote:2. Progressively taking a metagame stance to pressure and otherwise lynch lurkers in hopes that it'll do something to discourage the behavior. Unfortunately, the current stance of most people on the site is that lurking is allowable and not a good reason to vote for someone. Also, because of the general attitude towards lurkers, I think it'd just cause me more grief than it would do any good.

I don't think that gets you into any trouble. For a while, I had "lynch all lurkers:post or die!" in my signature so people wouldn't come to the mistaken impression that my constant lurkerhunting was any kind of scumtell. But eh, I don't feel the need to do that anymore; people generally don't have a problem with lurkerhunting, and if they do I just go back and explain all the reasons why lurking is bad for the town.

One thing I sometimes do that works is every now and then, when a game starts to stall, I go back and make a Lurker List, listing of all the people lurking in the game; either by "how long since last post", or "how many total posts", or "how many posts today", or something like that, with comments next to each one saying how bad a luker they are, or how scummy I think they are, or whatever. That works really well; most people don't bother to do that, so most people don't notice all of the people who are lurking, and everyone on that list suddenly feels pressure to post. It's also helped me find scum in some games as well.

Thesp · Post Post #92 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:06 am

Any ways for dealing with lurking mods?

Can someone who knows or IMs bluesoul poke him in the head to get Snakes on a Plane mafia opened again? I'd hate for it to be abandoned.

Thok · Post Post #93 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:19 am

I'd tried poking him on IM the last time I've saw him online. He promptly went offline.

The correct way of dealing with lurking mods is have backup mods/draft replacement mods.

Fiasco · Post Post #94 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:24 am

Maybe mafiascum.net would be better off with an ethic that says "don't sign up for a game if you're not going to be enthusiastic about participating in that game". It seems hard to be enthusiastic about 10 different games at the same time.

Yosarian2 · Post Post #95 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:47 am

Fiasco wrote:Maybe mafiascum.net would be better off with an ethic that says "don't sign up for a game if you're not going to be enthusiastic about participating in that game". It seems hard to be enthusiastic about 10 different games at the same time.

(shrug) I'm in more then that, and I think I'm more enthusiastic about them them many of the people in the games. How many games your in is not really the issue.

ShadowLurker · Post Post #96 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:59 am

Yes, I think I'm in 20 games atm and I post in all of them regularly.

Fiasco · Post Post #97 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:04 am

It's possible to post regularly, and not be enthusiastic. I'm willing to believe that you're at least as enthusiastic about each individual game as the average player in that game, but you'd probably be more enthusiastic about them if you played fewer games, and that in turn might inspire the other people in those games to post more...

Yosarian2 · Post Post #98 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:15 am

(shrug) Well, I will say I'm a bit more streached then I want to be, as I signed up for the games during the summer and have less time now that the school year's started. Nonetheless, it's possible to be enthusiastic about quite a few games at once.

Zindaras · Post Post #99 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:36 am

Fiasco wrote:It's possible to post regularly, and not be enthusiastic. I'm willing to believe that you're at least as enthusiastic about each individual game as the average player in that game, but you'd probably be more enthusiastic about them if you played fewer games, and that in turn might inspire the other people in those games to post more...

This is definitely true. For me, enthusiasm comes with the game. Either the setup is interesting (like ORB Mafia), the theme interests me (like Blizzard Mafia), or the happenings interest me.

I usually need something to really get "in" a game. An interesting discussion, an interesting role, those things usually do that.