Two-Headed Mafia 2 - GAME OVER!

[ShadowLurker]

Sorry for having lurked, but stressful times have overtaken me. I agree with lordy for saying that we need to move beyond the random voting stage. On that note I'm going to

unvote

. When it is so random there is no way to choose who is really acting scummy. Now that H2 da Tizzle and I are back, and no longer lurking, I say people give good voting reasons, or unvote us. For some random craplogic reason we are the majority vote.

X

Why aren't more people voting obvious H2 da tizzle/themanhimself scum?

They aren't voting us because they know the truth. My other head is speaking for us both. There you have it.

SCUM

X

Overdefensive = scum
No defense = scum

What is the perfect defense ShadowLurker?

X

[ambic]

This game started at day. If we do no lynch, its not as bad as a game that started at night - and cops/vigs/docs/whatevers can draw upon the info that is available from the first 17+ pages of the game. Whether we lynch or not is going to be based on the continuation of one of the existing bandwagons or simply a falling away. This early in the game, the mafia are probably quite capable of deflecting the lynch to a bad one. Whichever. Its Oct 3 where I am, and nearing that deadline fast.

[ambic]

Incidentally Shadow Lurker - posting Red X's as rebuttals is fairly futile. Please actually argue...

[Save The Dragons]

I did NOT play the n00b card. I am saying that what you're calling scumtell is something that anyone would do had they not played a lot of games, not that H2 Da Tizzle is a n00b and we should forgive him.

Basically, I'm attacking your actions, not defending his.

But what do I know. I'm a n00b.

[ShadowLurker]

It's also noted that your other head made a rather convenient jump to the eon/re2fan wagon.

We made that decision together. Please don't single out my other head. Kthx.

I thought H2 da tizzle/theman was more scummy, he disagreed, but we both agreed that our vote remaining on H2/the wasn't going to accomplish anything as no one else was voting him.

Incidentally Shadow Lurker - posting Red X's as rebuttals is fairly futile. Please actually argue...

What was the point I was supposed to rebuttaling against?

[ShadowLurker]

I did NOT play the n00b card. I am saying that what you're calling scumtell is something that anyone would do had they not played a lot of games, not that H2 Da Tizzle is a n00b and we should forgive him.

Basically, I'm attacking your actions, not defending his.

But what do I know. I'm a n00b.

I disagree. People who are newbs are still likely to exhibit overdefensiveness as scum than town right out of the gate like that over a

random vote

[Nightson]

This game started at day. If we do no lynch, its not as bad as a game that started at night - and cops/vigs/docs/whatevers can draw upon the info that is available from the first 17+ pages of the game. Whether we lynch or not is going to be based on the continuation of one of the existing bandwagons or simply a falling away. This early in the game, the mafia are probably quite capable of deflecting the lynch to a bad one. Whichever. Its Oct 3 where I am, and nearing that deadline fast.

Why exactly should we no lynch now?

[Save The Dragons]

I disagree. People who are newbs are still likely to exhibit overdefensiveness as scum than town right out of the gate like that over a

random vote

It seems to me what you've just said translates to:

People who are newbs who act overly defensive are equally likely to be scum or town.

or

People who are newbs are just as likely to be scum.

*raises eyebrow*

[ibaesha]

We made that decision together. Please don't single out my other head. Kthx.

I didn't single him out, but I have my facts straight. He moved the vote, not you. And I consider the bandwagon hop something to be noted about both of you or I wouldn't have pointed it out in a post directed towards you specifically.

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:58 pm Post subject: 430

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Save The Dragons wrote:
I did NOT play the n00b card. I am saying that what you're calling scumtell is something that anyone would do had they not played a lot of games, not that H2 Da Tizzle is a n00b and we should forgive him.

Basically, I'm attacking your actions, not defending his.

But what do I know. I'm a n00b.


I disagree. People who are newbs are still likely to exhibit overdefensiveness as scum than town right out of the gate like that over a random vote

I disagree with your disagreement? I think newbs are more likely to not understand random votes and random wagons and respond with a 'what did I do?' reaction regardless of their alignment.

By the way, you seem to be focusing on H2, but what do you think about my observations about theman? I think he's more suspicious out of the two heads myself.

[pablito]

*applauds other head*

[ibaesha]

Not sure what happened to that 2nd quote. o.O I'm sure you get the point anyways.

[Mgm]

Overdefensiveness is a good reason. One vote shouldn't cause overdefensiveness.

I disagree. People who are newbs are still likely to exhibit overdefensiveness as scum than town right out of the gate like that over a

random vote

I'll go back and check, but I believe by the time they started talking they were already the subject of a 3-vote bandwagon. Hardly overdefensiveness over a random vote, as you call it.

As Yosarian said. If you're going to attack someone, they'll naturally going to act defensive (noob or not) especially if they're top of the list before they even spoke.

Calling their response scummy because they are defensive is craplogic. You're being overdefensive about your beliefs yourself whenever someone mentions doubts about them.

And no one is playing the "noob card" either. In fact, in my own experience newbie scum tend to be careful (sometimes too careful) as to not draw too much attention.

[bird1111]

It's also noted that your other head made a rather convenient jump to the eon/re2fan wagon.

We made that decision together. Please don't single out my other head. Kthx.

I thought H2 da tizzle/theman was more scummy, he disagreed, but we both agreed that our vote remaining on H2/the wasn't going to accomplish anything as no one else was voting him.

Backing up my other head on this

Incidentally Shadow Lurker - posting Red X's as rebuttals is fairly futile. Please actually argue...

What was the point I was supposed to rebuttaling against?

My other head wasn't rebuttaling, he was showing how defensive H2 Da Trizzle was

[Courk]

Vote Count:

Eon/re2fan - 5 - (CDB/ziliu , Glork/MoS, Mini Neo/sprontalic, bird1111/ShadowLurker, lordy/spectrumvoid)

lordy/spectrumvoid - 4 - (Pablito/STD, Fritz/ibby, thestatusquo/ubertimmy, Eon/re2fan)

Glork/MoS - 2 - (Coron/DGB, MBL/PJ)
Mini Neo/sprotalic - 2 - (TSS/Yosarian2, armlx/Nightson)

bird1111/ShadowLurker - 1 - (Cogito Ergo Sum/Mgm)


Of those who were poked, I have yet to receive messages from:

HyToFry
Mini Neo

[Adele]

This is taking forever...
This is a body PBPA, not a head one; that'd be... well, it'd annoy me, so you can just live with it.

Bodies:

AdeletheMagicalBear
AmtoFry
Night-lx
BirdLurker
ChannelZiliu
CEMGM
Dripping Coron
re2Eon
Ibae-tzler
MOglork
H2man
SpectrumLord
MiniSpron
MrBuddyJelly
Save Pablito
The Silent Yos
Uberstatusquo

Pages 1&2:
1 . Ibae-tzler : generic query
2 . Mod :
3 . Mod :
4 . SpectrumLord : r. vote BirdLurker
5 . MrBuddyJelly : r. vote H2man
6 . The Silent Yos : r. vote AdeleTheMagicalBear
7 . BirdLurker : r. vote H2man
8 . Dripping Coron : r. vote Moglork
9 . ChannelZilliu : r. vote UberStatusQuo
10 . Save Pablito : r. vote Save Pablito
11 . MOglork : r. vote Minispron ridiculous fos attached +3
12 . MOglork : dice roll
13 . MOglork : r. vote The Silent Yos
14 . MOglork : another ridiculous fos
15 . MOglork : comment to self
16 . MrBuddyJelly : comment to self
17 . BirdLurker : comment to self
18 . CEMGM : vote: H2man
19 . BirdLurker : supports CEMGM's vote on H2man
20 . UberStatusQuo : omgus vote: ChannelZilliu
21 . re2Eon : spam first comment in game=spam? +3
22 . Night-lx : vote: re2Eon claims random, looks more like a to me
23 . Ibae-tzler : vote: Dripping Coron
24 . SpectrumLord : vote: Birdlurker "for the same thing"…
25 . Mod : votecount
26 . Dripping Coron : comment to mod
27 . Night-lx : comment to mod
28 . mod : "ta"
29 . ChannelZilliu : confirm vote uberstatusquo omgus confirmation
30 . BirdLurker : confirm vote: H2man for lurking
31 . Save Pablito : omgus vote: Save Pablito :roll: nothing better to say than self-voting spam? +3
32 . Save Pablito : comment on own's uselessness
33 . re2Eon : spam
34 . Night-lx : spam
35 . AmtoFry : "has my partner showed up yet"

No he hasn't

- try reading
36 . Minispron : vote: Moglork for craplogic
37 . CEMGM : comment to self doesn't like current vote, wants to confer
38 . re2Eon : Vote: MrBuddyJelly for an early joke
39 . ChannelZilliu : misunderstands re2Eon
40 . ChannelZilliu : explains MrBuddyJelly was joking earlier
41 . SpectrumLord : mentions a rule (can confer with self freely)
42 . CEMGM : FOS: CEMGM :roll:
43 . Ibae-tzler : FOS: re2Eon queries what Moglork craplogic referred to, suggests pseudo-nonrandom
44 . UberStatusQuo : comment: game confusing amen to that
45 . Save Pablito : spam I'm spending all this time chronicalling spam?
46 . re2Eon : protests ibea-ztler's vote, claims was joke +5 (see 47)
47 . Ibae-tzler : points out to re2eon, was FOS, not vote, big reaction
48 . Dripping Coron : suggests lynch on The Silent Yos
49 . BirdLurker : comments re2Eon's grammar

[Save The Dragons]

45 . Save Pablito : spam I'm spending all this time chronicalling spam?

Yes.

+1 spam count.

[Nightson]

45 . Save Pablito : spam I'm spending all this time chronicalling spam?

Yes.

+1 spam count.

:goodposting:

[ShadowLurker]

45 . Save Pablito : spam I'm spending all this time chronicalling spam?

Yes.

+1 spam count.

:goodposting:

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[pablito]

*applauds other head*

[Thestatusquo]

"dripping coron" amuses me.

[Adele]

Fine.

No PBPA for you jerkwads

"dripping coron" amuses me.

Me too.

If nothing else, I think there might really be something to combining personas like that. At least, I think I might do that from now on.

*relents* okay, I'll keep at the PBPA, but it's a humungous project, so there's not enough time for it to be a useful tool today. Sorry, it's just not do-able when I've got a full-time job, a stinky cold and a theme mini to set up.

[Coron]

Combining the names isn't really a new thing. We had a huge discussion of hilarious name combinations in scumchat long before this game ever game ever came close to existing.

[Adele]

Combining the names isn't really a new thing. We had a huge discussion of hilarious name combinations in scumchat long before this game ever game ever came close to existing.

I'm... not....

It's not

about

the amusement factor - I'm saying, it makes it easier to see who's saying what. Well, for me, but then I'm much more used to mini games so 17 players is the upper limit for me.

[pablito]

I think a goal for day 2 would be to come up with official names so that we reduce confusion.

But for now, let's ring someone or up or force eon/re2fan to claim so that we can make a more informed lynch. I don't want us to all just lie idly and let the eon/re2fan lynch occur as is without any new votes or unvotes.

so people: a call to arms! care bear stare! tora! tora! tora! leeroy jenkins! it's clobberin time! earth! fire! wind! water! heart! when your powers combine, I am captain planet!

let's go!

[Thestatusquo]

I think a goal for day 2 would be to come up with official names so that we reduce confusion.

Damn. And here I was thinking it should be finding scum...