Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Legacy (Game Over)

[MagnaofIllusion]

@MoI: Read on Yates?

P-edit (so many pedits): I think Zab should claim next post. Its obvious thats where today is headed.

People I want to lynch atm in rough order from "Oh god yes!" to "Ok": Yates, Kublai Khan, Mykonian, Nero Cain.

Yates is a lazy and terrible player. That's my read on him. If I had to guess I would say Town simply because he was the last gasp desperation attempt to derail the Zab lynch yesterday. Frankly I think a Zab scum flip will make VCA analysis and mining relational tells pretty powerful given how

Your "I want to lynch list" order is frankly terrible given how yesterday played out if you believe Zab is scum BTW. Just an FYI.

[mastin2]

Which means Nero is town now so Mastin you and him should vote zab. I trust you guys now.

Eventually.

But I am NOT quicklynching. See 3521 for why we CAN gain info from not speedlynching him.

He's not escaping two days in a row. He's not going to get out of the noose. He's going to die today, yes.

That doesn't mean he needs to die in less than 24 hours. Three days.
Give me three dang days.

That too much to ask for?

If I procrastinate and don't finish my work by Friday, I'll vote for zab.
If I finish before then and I think there's nothing more to be gained, I'll vote for zab.

But for the love of gods, don't lynch him before then.

[zabriel]

I didn't say my claim would save me. I just like following procedure. I was nowhere near my computer when I was getting run up yesterday, and there was no time for the whole dance.

PEdit: I don't like to without intent, but it's going that way and I'm too baked to try to fight it.

Claim: Rubeus Hagrid, Vanilla Townie

[MagnaofIllusion]

TWO MORE VOTES FOR ZABRIEL

[AngryPidgeon]

-Cases. I asked before night yesterday for people to prepare cases on jason arguing one way or the other. Did anyone actually follow through?

No, my dog

ate my homework

delete my case.

Ehhhh, I don't really know what I feel about Jason tbh. I wouldn't cry over a Jason lynch, but I think there are considerably better targets right now.

Quick points:
Don't like his opening post about Acosmist lying about flavor. It looks fake. Like ¿AV? said: Why does Jason think Acosmist would fakeclaim Snake in a HP game and VOTE HIM FOR IT. It looks like Jason tryingto drop a fake towntell.
Didn't like his response to Yates about the hammer on Elscouta. The entire situation looked like someone caught for the wrong reasons (the hammer itself wasn't scummy, but Jason acted like he was caught with his hand in the cookie jar afterwards). That said, I'd buy a Jason/Yates team.
Jason is coasting to a degree.

Actually I guess I wouldn't mind a Jason wagon >.>

I'd bump Nero off my list potentially to put him on.

Le preview edit: I dont think Zab is scum though. >.>
His wagon not going through is not at all a scumtell. I voted him for compromise and that was it. Yates is a much better wagon (shit I guess I just admitted to CWing Yates). Zab is not acting like scum. In fact his post sheeping me onto PV is prob from town.

[mastin2]

Dammit, MoI, stop being such a stubborn ass.

72 hours. Let day five last for 72. dang. hours. By Friday, Zabriel will be lynched, whether I've finished my analysis or not.
But come on, you know that zab's getting lynched, and I've set out a time table as to when. You can wait for a couple more days. It's not going to be the end of the world for us to have not lynched him Tuesday (today) or Wednesday (tomorrow) or even Thursday.

Your rushing wouldn't even allow for some people to have posted today. If nothing else, at least let the prod time meter have passed.

[zabriel]

Mastin, where is your vote going after I flip town? Are you going to go after MoI for rushing the day?

Hey, AP, were you going to share the message you got, or just tell us that you got one?

[MagnaofIllusion]

-VCA. I have it in my QT. I want the chance to analyze it and post trends from it.
-Followthrough. VCA shows potential trends worth investigating, but investigating the trends tends to work better if the topic's actually open.
-Pressure. Zabriel's one scum, sure. Let's go with that. But there's more than one scum in the game, and I intend to weave them out.
-Re-readthrough. I am one of the only players on the site who is actually insane enough to try, but if you guys DON'T speedlynch, then I'll have the time to read all 141 pages.
-Isos. Though the re-readthrough will be more helpful overall, Isos are like VCA, showing a potential trend I might have missed. On the seven key players, six of them I need a better read on.
-Cases. I asked before night yesterday for people to prepare cases on jason arguing one way or the other. Did anyone actually follow through? If so, they need to post 'em. If not, they should do so during the day...not during the night.

1. I don't care about your VCA personally. I don't trust your judgement at this point.
2. Followthrough can happen tomorrow once we actually have the scum flip and another confirmed Town to help nail down those trends.
3. We aren't pressuing alternate players today.

DOING SO IS STUPID AN INVITES SCUM A CHANCE TO SWING A MISLYNCH WHEN ONE OF YOUR SUSPECTS IS INVARIABLY WRONG (OR YOU ARE SCUM TRYING HOPING TO GET ZAB OFF THE NOOSE).

4. You can re-readthrough during Night if you wish. Hell you even have a way to share your thoughts with "Town" Nero.
5. Same with ISOs.
6. I don't care what you want on that end. Your stupidity / scum play let Zab escape yesterday. You don't get indulged for that.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Dammit, MoI, stop being such a stubborn ass.

No. You got reasonable MoI yesterday and you

FUCKED UP THE LYNCH ON SCUM.

So today you get MoI who gets things done. Don't like it? I don't care.

[AngryPidgeon]

The message was just a stream of thoughts about the game.

It was a reads list and quick summary with about a paragraph devoted to each player.

The messenger definitely put effort into it which is a light town-tell, but the message has not changed my perception much.

This person DID express a lot of interest in my top wagon.

[MagnaofIllusion]

His wagon not going through is not at all a scumtell.

Yes it is. If Zab was Town then both scum and Town had every reason to make sure his wagon happened yesterday at deadline. So the fact that it didn't happen indicates one of those groups (scum) had a motive to not vote him at deadline. Because no-one hammering him at deadline would be held accountable for a "bad lynch".

[MagnaofIllusion]

EBWOP - Especially if Yates is scum as you say. Otherwise scum risked his wagon getting swung as opposed to Zab's.

[jasonT1981]

His wagon not going through is not at all a scumtell.

Yes it is. If Zab was Town then both scum and Town had every reason to make sure his wagon happened yesterday at deadline. So the fact that it didn't happen indicates one of those groups (scum) had a motive to not vote him at deadline. Because no-one hammering him at deadline would be held accountable for a "bad lynch".

what if all his scum partners/anti town were already on the wagon?

[Yates]

I'll vote MoI first then

vote MoI

Happy to oblige.

You are going down after Zab. Book it.

[mykonian]

I'll vote MoI first then

vote MoI

Happy to oblige.

You are going down after Zab. Book it.

If MoI is bussing, I am.

Lets find out

vote zabriel

[AngryPidgeon]

Lol. Yates calling a Zab/Mykonian team.

But Yates, Im chainsaw defending the shit out of Zab by voting you. So consider me cutting in line in front of Mykonian.

Zab is L - 1

[mastin2]

3. We aren't pressuing alternate players today. DOING SO IS STUPID AN INVITES SCUM A CHANCE TO SWING A MISLYNCH WHEN ONE OF YOUR SUSPECTS IS INVARIABLY WRONG (OR YOU ARE SCUM TRYING HOPING TO GET ZAB OFF THE NOOSE).

And if the scum actually try to swing a mislynch, then that itself is a scumclaim, no? Zab's getting lynched. Period, end of discussion.

Doesn't mean we don't have more to talk about. Why do tomorrow what you can do today?

Mastin, where is your vote going after I flip town?

That's my point. I don't know.
I don't know where I'd go if you flipped town.

Heck, I don't even know where I'd go if you flipped scum.

That's

exactly

why we shouldn't rush the lynch today. I guess I'd look at those on the zab lynch yesterday, and those on the zab lynch today (especially those who voted after my explicit request not to rush the day), but at this time (thanks to me having not had the time to follow through on my leads), I can't offer anything more than that since I have nothing else to give.

Hence, why waiting would be better.

[Kublai Khan]

unvote

Eh, hold up, I want to re-read a bit first.

[mykonian]

I can tell you were you go if zab comes up town. You lynch Yates. Kise. MoI. Jason. Basically pick your favorite from that squad. There seem to be more scum then town in this game at some point.

And we didn't lose a lynch with the no lynch as such anyway. So there isn't anything to worry about. This is a mighty fine lynch, there is the support, go for it?

[AngryPidgeon]

If he flips town, Yates/Mykonian/Jason are all fantastic votes.

If he flips scum, Yates is still a fantastic vote.

[AngryPidgeon]

Rereading anything in particular KK?

[mykonian]

as is Jason. Because as things are now, zabriel, jason, or yates have

no

connections with anyone else. They just sit there being a vote.

[AngryPidgeon]

^ That is pretty true.

Same could be said for pidgey too. I know you didn't forget about him so soon?

[AngryPidgeon]

Actually I guess pidgey has been posting reads. But most of his content is voting you.

[Kublai Khan]

Rereading anything in particular KK?

Yates, jasonT1981, a few others. I wanna do some ISOs after work.