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Post Post #3475 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:09 pm

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In post 3385, Cheery Dog wrote:Nc t; p -; mi -.

So Nero's claim is even more confirmed than before. Not that that really changes much.

PV and MoI were tracked nowhere.

But given 3-4 scum left that doesn't mean much either.
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Post Post #3476 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:10 pm

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So the messanger decided to AP. HRRRRMMMM. MOI is still scum though, dunno if he's bussin' Zab or not.
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Post Post #3477 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:18 pm

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Infact

vote: MOI


I'll explain better next time I'm at the library. I could also accept a Kise, KK, AP lynch.
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Post Post #3478 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:28 pm

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Nero, thoughts on the Zab wagon not going through?

And quick bullet points on Yates?

Still think MoI is town...
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Post Post #3479 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:35 pm

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That Yates wagon was bullshit. I'm seriously reconsidering some of my Town reads because that was scummy as hell.

Vote: Zab


That was a bullshit counter wagon and I want to know what's up.
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Post Post #3480 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:36 pm

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I would also consider an AP vote at this point.
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Post Post #3481 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:06 pm

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In post 3479, Yates wrote:That Yates wagon was bullshit. I'm seriously reconsidering some of my Town reads because that was scummy as hell.

Vote: Zab


That was a bullshit counter wagon and I want to know what's up.

The Zab wagon was a bullshit counter wagon to you?

You know how I know you are scum? You are acting like your wagon was really bad. It wasn't. You are coasting like mad and if you were town, you would know that there was good reason for people to vote you.

Your reaction only makes sense as someone trying to look more town than they feel.

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Post Post #3482 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:13 pm

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VOTE: Yates
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Post Post #3483 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:34 pm

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@mastin2 - What did you discuss with Nero Cain in your QT last night?

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Post Post #3484 (ISO) » Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:13 am

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I don't know if I'm allowed to comment on the failed rush on me, but when a lynch doesn't go through, I tend to think that it means that scum was already piled on rather than waiting to jump on. Regardless of what anybody thinks of me, what does everybody think of Yates not being on my wagon at the end of yesterday, but eager to restart it today?

Pidgey, you have town on Yates because of AV. Would you mind going back over that and telling us what you think makes Yates seem more town?
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Post Post #3485 (ISO) » Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:22 am

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Lulz ... scum failed to lynch you ... that's a nice one ...

VOTE: Zabriel

Anyone who doesn't see yesterday's No Lynch as scum wanting to avoid bussing needs to retire from Mafia. Or they are Zab's partners in which case they are excused.

Mastin needs to explain why his vote wasn't moved to Zab before he went V/LA. And also answer Kublia's question about Nighttime discussion.

Mykonian's later day hop off is nice in that once Zab flips scum it is clearer than ever that they are partners. Also Nero is still scum too.

If someone other than Acosmist got a message last Night the Messenger needs to explain in detail why that happened.
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Post Post #3486 (ISO) » Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:33 am

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In post 3481, AngryPidgeon wrote:The Zab wagon was a bullshit counter wagon to you?

You know how I know you are scum? You are acting like your wagon was really bad

Uh no. The Yates wagon was a counter to Zab. There wasn't even a Yates wagon until later.

Also, I'm acting like my wagon was bad because my wagon was bad. Also also - coasting /= scum. I realize I haven't been super active on these forums - PERIOD - but that's due to RL stuff not game stuff. Unless you think I'm scum in all three games? Also, feel free to show me a single game where I was lurker scum, tyia.

You, on the other hand, have been doing nothing but manufacturing counter wagons and casting suspicion without cause. Plus your stance on the Tammy thing was bogus but I'm not going to get in to that again.

When I have some time I'm going to revisit if you or Zab are the better lynch for today.
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Post Post #3487 (ISO) » Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:02 am

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So you've called it then. Me, Nero, Myk, and Mastin? Plus AV from earlier. Are you really going to say that not one of the fake partners you're linking me to would be willing to bus and then draw a fuck-ton of attention after I flip? Okay. That makes COMPLETE sense.
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Post Post #3488 (ISO) » Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:10 am

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In post 3477, Nero Cain wrote:Infact

vote: MOI


I'll explain better next time I'm at the library. I could also accept a Kise, KK, AP lynch.


yes yes no no :/

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Post Post #3489 (ISO) » Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:15 am

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vote zabriel
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Post Post #3490 (ISO) » Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:21 am

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In post 3487, zabriel wrote:So you've called it then. Me, Nero, Myk, and Mastin? Plus AV from earlier. Are you really going to say that not one of the fake partners you're linking me to would be willing to bus and then draw a fuck-ton of attention after I flip? Okay. That makes COMPLETE sense.


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Now Nero / myk / you makes absolute sense to me. Mykonian obviously was willing to bus until a chance at a mislynch came along.

Continue to flail until you dingle-dangle scum.
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Post Post #3491 (ISO) » Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:32 am

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Bailing on your partner's wagon when the heat gets turned up is the scummiest shit ever. Nobody does that.
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Post Post #3492 (ISO) » Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:59 am

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Zab wrote: Bailing on your partner's wagon when the heat gets turned up is the scummiest shit ever. Nobody does that.


That’s right hand-wave it away. Let’s look at the toils and tribulations of mykonian’s votes yesterday for illustration of exactly why his behavior definitely fits as a bussing / distancing partner.

Votecount 4.6

zabriel - 4 (Acosmist, MagnaofIllusion, mykonian, AngryPidgeon)
mykonian - 2 (Kise, pidgey)
MagnaofIllusion - 1 (zabriel)
Acosmist - 1 (jasonT1981)
jasonT1981 - 1 (Yates)
Cheery Dog - 1 (Nero Cain)
Kise - 1 (mastin2)

Not voting - PeregrineV, Kublai Khan, Cheery Dog


This is the highest your wagon got on the Vote-Counts – only half the number required to lynch. And there mykonian sits.

Now let’s fast-forward and look at vote movements from here …

Votecount 4.7

PeregrineV - 4 (Cheery Dog, AngryPidgeon, zabriel, Kise)
zabriel - 3 (Acosmist, MagnaofIllusion, jasonT1981)
AngryPidgeon - 2 (Kublai Khan, mastin2)
mykonian - 1 (pidgey)
MagnaofIllusion - 1 (mykonian)
jasonT1981 - 1 (Yates)
Cheery Dog - 1 (Nero Cain)

Not voting – PeregrineV


So the heat has shifted to Peregrine and mykonian hops off to a non-starter wagon (me). Now that another wagon has appeared no need for him to keep your wagon as viable (which it would be if he was still there).

Votecount 4.8

PeregrineV - 4 (Cheery Dog, AngryPidgeon, zabriel, Kise)
zabriel - 3 (Acosmist, MagnaofIllusion, jasonT1981)
AngryPidgeon - 2 (Kublai Khan, mastin2)
Cheery Dog - 1 (Nero Cain)
jasonT1981 - 1 (Yates)
pidgey - 1 (mykonian)
mykonian - 1 (pidgey)

Not voting – PeregrineV


Wagon on Peregrine still the most viable and mykonian has chosen another non-starter wagon (Pidgey this time) as opposed to moving back to you and making his “suspect’s” wagon as viable as Peregrine’s. Since you supposedly has you as scum why did he do that?

Votecount 4.9

PeregrineV - 3 (Cheery Dog, zabriel, Kise)
AngryPidgeon - 3 (Kublai Khan, mastin2, Acosmist)
zabriel - 2 (MagnaofIllusion, jasonT1981)
mykonian - 2 (pidgey, AngryPidgeon)
Cheery Dog - 1 (Nero Cain)
jasonT1981 - 1 (Yates)
pidgey - 1 (mykonian)

Not voting – PeregrineV


So now two wagons oppose yours and mykonian himself has a wagon tied with yours. He specifically said yesterday he would not vote for AngryP. He was mum on Peregrine. Again – why does non-parnter mykonian sit with his vote idled when two players he apparently doesn’t want to vote are eclipsing your wagon. Town mykonian surely would have every reason to want your wagon to go through.

Votecount 4.10

AngryPidgeon - 4 (Kublai Khan, mastin2, Acosmist, Nero Cain)
PeregrineV - 3 (Cheery Dog, zabriel, Kise)
zabriel - 2 (MagnaofIllusion, jasonT1981)
mykonian - 2 (pidgey, AngryPidgeon)
jasonT1981 - 1 (Yates)
pidgey - 1 (mykonian)

Not voting – PeregrineV


Votecount 4.11

AngryPidgeon - 4 (Kublai Khan, Acosmist, Nero Cain, PeregrineV)
PeregrineV - 3 (Cheery Dog, zabriel, Kise)
zabriel - 3 (MagnaofIllusion, jasonT1981, mykonian)
mykonian - 2 (pidgey, AngryPidgeon)
jasonT1981 - 1 (Yates)
Cheery Dog - 1 (mastin2)


AngryPidgeon - 5 (Kublai Khan, Acosmist, Nero Cain, PeregrineV, Cheery Dog)
PeregrineV - 3 (zabriel, Kise, AngryPidgeon)
zabriel - 3 (MagnaofIllusion, jasonT1981, mykonian)
mykonian - 1 (pidgey)
jasonT1981 - 1 (Yates)
Cheery Dog - 1 (mastin2)


And now we see mykonian finally returns to your wagon only when said vote doesn’t make it a viable counter to AngryP who he calls Town. At a time when momentum on AngryP is clearly growing. Classic distancing.

Votecount 4.13

AngryPidgeon - 4 (Kublai Khan, Acosmist, Nero Cain, PeregrineV)
zabriel - 4 (MagnaofIllusion, jasonT1981, mykonian, Cheery Dog)
PeregrineV - 2 (zabriel, Kise)
Yates - 2 (mastin2, AngryPidgeon)
mykonian - 1 (pidgey)
jasonT1981 - 1 (Yates)


Votecount 4.14

zabriel - 5 (MagnaofIllusion, jasonT1981, Cheery Dog, Kise, Acosmist)
Yates - 4 (mastin2, AngryPidgeon, zabriel, mykonian)
AngryPidgeon - 3 (Kublai Khan, Nero Cain, PeregrineV)
mykonian - 1 (pidgey)
jasonT1981 - 1 (Yates)


And low and behold what do we have here? Zabriel’s wagon suddenly is just as viable as Angry P’s. What happens next? Mykonian jumps OFF said wagon to Yates to join the person he supposedly suspects (Zabriel) in forming a viable counter-wagon. And there it convienently sits helping to insure a Non-Town result of No Lynch occurs.

Scumtastic and pretty damn indicative that mykonian is scum with you.
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Post Post #3493 (ISO) » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:08 am

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The obvious lynch for today is obvious -

Zabriel needs 4 more votes until he takes his rightful position in the noose!

@Acosmist / AngryP / pidgey / Peregrine / Mastin / KK / jasonT - VOTE ZAB FOR GREAT JUSTICE AND SEXY MAFIA HANGINGS
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Post Post #3494 (ISO) » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:19 am

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In post 3490, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
In post 3487, zabriel wrote:So you've called it then. Me, Nero, Myk, and Mastin? Plus AV from earlier. Are you really going to say that not one of the fake partners you're linking me to would be willing to bus and then draw a fuck-ton of attention after I flip? Okay. That makes COMPLETE sense.


Lulz. If you read you'd understand that I don't consider mastin likely scum. His behavior at the end of the day is suspect but my overall read is still probably Town.

Now Nero / myk / you makes absolute sense to me. Mykonian obviously was willing to bus until a chance at a mislynch came along.

Continue to flail until you dingle-dangle scum.


You make it more then it is, I think. I switched wagons when they were 4-3, after that the game ran away from me. I was ok with both.

I'm getting the idea that you are bussing zab here and making the connection for me to get direct profit. And I really don't like it.
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Post Post #3495 (ISO) » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:23 am

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In post 3494, mykonian wrote:I'm getting the idea that you are bussing zab here and making the connection for me to get direct profit. And I really don't like it.


Well funny that you think Zab is scum two different ways (via being scum yesterday and relationally today) but aren't trying to hang him.

If you thought this and really believed all the "MoI is doing nothing to influence anyone" crap you were pedaling yesterday you would be voting to lynch scum Zab and preparing to try to hang me tomorrow.

But you aren't. Instead you are throwing this distancing crap down in hopes once Zab hangs as obv-scum you can cling to mastin's skirt and be saved from the rope that you so desperately deserve.

/inb4re "I'll vote MoI first then" from obv-partner Mykonian.
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Post Post #3496 (ISO) » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:25 am

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Every player in the game needs to post one of these three possibilities in their next post:

"If I was the messenger, I did not target Aco"
"If I was the messenger, I targeted Aco; nothing unusual seems to have happened"
"If I was the messenger, I targeted Aco; something unusual happened"

Needless to say, Nero and I were incredibly busy last night. There were 11 messages going into night. Now there's almost 60. :P

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Post Post #3497 (ISO) » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:28 am

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"If I was the messenger, I targeted Aco; nothing unusual seems to have happened"

@mastin2 - Explain your Nero Cain townread.
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Post Post #3498 (ISO) » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:29 am

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Except that I'm town, so you're both wrong. Nice try though.

PEdit: If I was the messenger, I did not target Aco.
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Post Post #3499 (ISO) » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:30 am

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hey Mastin you need to explain WTF your vote never made it to Zabriel before you went V/LA at deadline despite the fact that he was your "Number 1".

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