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Post Post #1250 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:02 am

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Yet. I'm sure that Thor/Mollie slot is probably town. You didn't even address what I asked you before about it.

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Thor665 (L-3): Shrimp85, Adam-12
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Malakittens (L-3): Thor665, ProHawk
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Not Voting: Leviathan93, Guile

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline is Monday, December 17, 2012 at 12:40 PM EST
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Post Post #1251 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:04 am

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Why aren't you persuading your first candidate. Why are you going after your second?
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Post Post #1252 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:04 am

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Don't you worry Mala, Levi will be lynched, just not today.
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Post Post #1253 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:05 am

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In post 1248, Malakittens wrote:Well everyone is giving Levi and Shrimp a get out of lynch free card off of bullshit town tells.


Your case on Levi was terribly underwhelming. I don't see your case on Shrimp.
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Post Post #1254 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:10 am

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Thank you both for making me throw my phone against the wall. I'm so frustrated its not funny. This IS what happens to me when I'm town. Just lynch me. Adam vote me.
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Post Post #1255 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:12 am

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Can I show you meta of you frustrated as scum too? Cause I found that as well....
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Post Post #1256 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:18 am

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What my most recent game? Bit different here then there. Bullshit sheep wagon that appeared on me. I stay calmer as scum.

If you like I can show you 3 offsite games where I'm frustrate as town well not to mention I have never once been (scum) there.
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Post Post #1257 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:21 am

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It's okay though. I'm willing to self lynch here because I want out, but forcing a replacement to read through 51 pages is torture. I don't blame bork or Thor for not wanting to read through it. I can only say unless town drastically improves this is a loss right now.
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Post Post #1258 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:22 am

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I agree with Hawk, I hate meta arguments but the worst is when people self-meta; its totally worthless.
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Post Post #1259 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:24 am

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How do you counter a meta arguement without self meta?
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Post Post #1260 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:27 am

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Good-heavens, we aren't really that bad are we Adam? Or is it just a scum-disease for this game?
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Post Post #1261 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:29 am

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This game is this bad.
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Post Post #1262 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:33 am

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Personally, I think these day phases are way too long. This game will be massive before we are done.
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Post Post #1263 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:47 am

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The data samples are very large but at least everyone is posting, what hurt us the most was the replace out & now lack of posting from Shrimp.

I think meta arguments can be used to prove logical inconsistencies but for behavior tells its pretty dicey.
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Post Post #1264 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:53 am

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Also, Guille is quickly moving into a bad lack of posting status.
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Post Post #1265 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:54 am

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@Mod: Can we please prod Guille
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Post Post #1266 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:54 am

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In post 1265, Adam-12 wrote:@Mod: Can we please prod Guille


@Mod: Can we please prod Guille

Jesus.
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Post Post #1267 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:10 am

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In post 1266, Adam-12 wrote:
In post 1265, Adam-12 wrote:@Mod: Can we please prod Guille


@Mod: Can we please prod Guille

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Post Post #1268 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:15 am

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We seemed to have gotten a bit to far with the meta thing. Out of all the things that Adam and Hawk have been pointing out for Mala in her meta is mostly stuff from her that she does as both town and Scum. On games that are quite active as this one is, then her posting is reduced, and her reads become worse if she is scum.

There worse things (Meta wise) that Mala has done in this game, That I noticed, was when she defended me from Prohawks intent to hammer (which wasn't a real intent since he was already voting for me). If I remember correctly she went ahead and voted for Prohawk while berating him (Correct me if I'm wrong about her vote). The defense was well placed and the argument was logical. I cannot say this was scummy because I would have done the same thing in her place. I have noticed that she does this as scum, but it is not a strong tell in her.

She does this meta argument basically in every game, whether she is town or scum. And her statement that she is better after a few days is null.

Mala is the only one that considers Levi and Shrimp Lynch-worthy. This is something I don't see scum-Mala doing. Then again I don't see where her arguments for this is.

I am not yet convinced enough to lynch Mala. I am going to read Prohawk's case more closely thought. It has intrigued me.

Prohawk has gotten considerably weaker since Thor came into play. I noticed his attempt to put an Adhom accusation on Thor, but they were not really Adhom attacks. Thor points it out later. Regardless, prohawk has been consistent and has acknowledged his mistakes so I give him town points for that.

Thor is rock solid in his play (It must be the beard). My only problem with him is that he has not acknowledge that any of the accusations placed on him could be a valid argument. This of course is not a bad thing, and he is write with most, but I think that some of the arguments placed on him were actually valid, even if he is town.

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I am actually considering Mantis as a potential lynch today. But I need to check it better.
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Post Post #1269 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:16 am

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In post 1263, Adam-12 wrote:I think meta arguments can be used to prove logical inconsistencies but for behavior tells its pretty dicey.

I agree with this.
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Post Post #1270 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:36 am

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In post 1262, ProHawk wrote:Personally, I think these day phases are way too long. This game will be massive before we are done.

agree. Sometimes its seems like the length of time means we can wifom ourselves to death.

really thinking malakittens looks more townish now. i also like how she hasn't changed her thoughts on mollie-thor slot being town.

shrimp and bork are standing out to me. i read (briefly, sine i was tired) his case on me last night, and the word 'bs' came to mind. i'll address it in a bit.


adam question for you. when you first read prohawk's 68, what was your interpretation of it?
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Post Post #1271 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:37 am

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In post 1261, Malakittens wrote:This game is this bad.

don't sub out, it will get better (hopefully). day 1 has been kind of a mess
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Post Post #1272 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:38 am

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In post 1268, guille2015 wrote:On games that are quite active as this one is, then her posting is reduced, and her reads become worse if she is scum.


Mala is the only one that considers Levi and Shrimp Lynch-worthy
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This is something I don't see scum-Mala doing.
Then again I don't see where her arguments for this is.


If I am correct in linking these statements together logically, I don't understand the bolded because of the underlined.
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Post Post #1273 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:41 am

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In post 1270, Mantisdreamz wrote:


adam question for you. when you first read prohawk's 68, what was your interpretation of it?


I read it correctly that he was calling Mollie scum in a very forceful way. I liked it because the way he phrased it tends to get reactions. I also understood why he was making the push and I liked that he was doing it because I preferred to push Shrimp.
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Post Post #1274 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:44 am

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In post 1268, guille2015 wrote:
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