Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Legacy (Game Over)

[AngryPidgeon]

I gave reason.

[AngryPidgeon]

And mastin agreed with my reasoning so I guess he kind of did too.

[Acosmist]

Well Nero is being obtuse and did invent a reason not to die to me, yeah? OK I could lynch him.

[Acosmist]

So AP you think zabriel just happened to be talking about Yates re:fakeclaims in a post otherwise about Yates, but he forgot who it was?

Also, how much complete disconnect from the game do you have to have to make that post zabriel made? We had this discussion what, a thousand posts ago? about how this is a pappums game and obviously there are fakeclaims. Just, what? But we're not getting a wagon on zabriel pretty much ever. oooook. When no one is at all interested in the top two scummiest people, my vote just goes wherever.

[pappums rat]

Votecount 4.10

"I'm surprised the Ministry's still letting you walk around free, Potter. You better enjoy it while you can. I expect there's a cell in Azkaban with your name on it." -Draco Malfoy, Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix

AngryPidgeon - 4 (Kublai Khan, mastin2, Acosmist, Nero Cain)
PeregrineV - 3 (Cheery Dog, zabriel, Kise)
zabriel - 2 (MagnaofIllusion, jasonT1981)
mykonian - 2 (pidgey, AngryPidgeon)
jasonT1981 - 1 (Yates)
pidgey - 1 (mykonian)

Not voting - PeregrineV

Nero Cain, mastin2, PeregrineV, and zabriel are V/LA.
MagnaofIllusion is V/LA until Thursday.

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

The deadline for Day 4 is 2 AM EST on December 15, 2012.

[AngryPidgeon]

Mmm. I don't see that as really important either way. Are you saying that Yates and Zab are a team for that and he is just trying to distance by pretending he didn't know? Zab looks like hes skimming, so I wouldn't really be that surprised if he skimmed over or forgot about that comment. TBH, the only reason I remembered it was Yates was because I remembered you starting a 1v1 with him for it. I had to think about it myself after reading Zabs post.

1000 posts is a lot of posts. And Im not arguing that he isn't disconnected from the game. Hes lurking almost as hard as PV. Unless you mean Yates being in a pappums game and should know better about his modding style, in which case IDK.

[Acosmist]

But he referenced the discussion itself, then FORGOT ABOUT IT RESOLUTION

[AngryPidgeon]

I'm not really feeling an AP lynch today.

Myk's protection speculation kind of makes me uncomfortable. In a big game like this it's hard to say who targeted who without some inside knowledge. I went to reread from when AP replaced in (former occupant I Am Innocent) and I'm not really seeing the justification for that kind of speculation.

Also when rereading I noticed that Yates congratulated the fuck out of the "DayVig" right after the AV death. There was a little bit of "hey man, nice shot" from a few people, but Yates had the beer glasses out, which in retrospect comes off sort of like congratulating the doctor does.

More speculation that's bothering me more than it was earlier is all of the "Tammy had a safe-claim, so mafia have a safe-claim too". I can't remember exactly who was saying that and I don't feel like tracking back right now. The central thing that bothers me about that is that it really didn't seem like she actually had a claim since it took her several pages of refusing to provide her character's name before she finally gave us a fake name. The amount of time that passed makes it feel like she was stalling while she looked for a remotely plausible name. Maybe it's just in my head from to the rereading, but it doesn't seem reasonable to assume safe-claims based on Tammy play, and it seems increasingly more likely that scum is bringing it up to try to speed along the Aco wagon. I am sleepy as heck right now, so I'm going to nap.

Ya this post is pretty bad. But I still wont believe Scum-Zab decides its a good idea to all out sheep/buddy me onto PV after I accuse PV of being scummy for that. Hed have to be really dumb to think that was a good scum play.

I don't see why him forgetting who said it is scummy though. You think he is avoiding saying its Yates intentionally? Why do that but also accuse yates of being scum for other things?

[Acosmist]

So that someone can say "HEY THAT WAS YATES THAT DID IT? LET'S GET ON YATES" and someone else provides the impetus

Why are so many of his posts about me that basically say "on the one hand, but on the other" and then lead exactly nowhere. He doesn't come to any decision at all regarding anything. It's the definition of fluff.

[AngryPidgeon]

I'll reread it. [ongoing] is sponging me right ATM. And work. lol.

[mykonian]

pffft.

Vote Zabriel.

[AngryPidgeon]

So that someone can say "HEY THAT WAS YATES THAT DID IT? LET'S GET ON YATES" and someone else provides the impetus

Why are so many of his posts about me that basically say "on the one hand, but on the other" and then lead exactly nowhere. He doesn't come to any decision at all regarding anything. It's the definition of fluff.

So Zab is bussing Yates but he wants someone else to start the wagon?

Mykonian, read on Nero?

[Acosmist]

What do you think he's doing?

[AngryPidgeon]

lurking and derping.

His Yates push was uncharacteristic, but I really dont think he has an agenda - lol.

[Cheery Dog]

Neither of you are on the Zab wagon currently, why are you arguing about it?

[Acosmist]

you're right my vote can't move, what was I thinking

[AngryPidgeon]

Because we dont have to be voting someone to argue their alignment?

[Acosmist]

Because we dont have to be voting someone to argue their alignment?

WHAT THAT'S INSANE

Seriously what is the point of cheery making posts like that that are SO BAD and retarded? Is that a scumtell? I don't even know. If not, can he please stop doing that? He's not a kdowns alt I don't think

[Acosmist]

The difference is this. Town KK says "We should wagon AP." ... "Hes scum for Xyz, if you don't believe me, look at my case and his response"

Not

"AP is scum because my case is good"

You are trying to look town by believing in the logic you laid out.

How do you know what KK says as town or not? I can't see any alignment coming from his post, though I am seeing scumminess come out of your reply.
This thing is pretty much the same as MoI's case against Nero about not neighboursing the cop.

I'm really not seeing anyone here as town. At all. No one is hammering an objective case on a single person. Wagons are forming and then disintegrating for no good reason.

You want to help with getting that happening or just say it needs to happen without doing anything about it?

wow

compare this to his last

just

wow. Cheery is butthurt about something for some reason, and will utterly contradict himself because of it.

[Acosmist]

DO STUFF

DON'T DO STUFF

ok champ

[Cheery Dog]

I just found it odd in the ways you both left the Zab wagon that you're still after his lynch today. (well Angry's not since he's gone complete town now, and would actually be worse if he were voting Zab while defending him)

What actually are the reasons against Zab anyway, I still don't believe I know.

If it's whatever you've just been saying there, i think a disconnect on this level is more likely to have come from town.

I believe you should still be on said wagon if you're trying to hard sell it., but maybe that's just me.

[AngryPidgeon]

Seriously what is the point of cheery making posts like that that are SO BAD and retarded? Is that a scumtell? I don't even know. If not, can he please stop doing that? He's not a kdowns alt I don't think

lol.

[AngryPidgeon]

Cheery makes people want to believe he is scum every single game Ive seen him in. Lol @ NY 159.

[mykonian]

So that someone can say "HEY THAT WAS YATES THAT DID IT? LET'S GET ON YATES" and someone else provides the impetus

Why are so many of his posts about me that basically say "on the one hand, but on the other" and then lead exactly nowhere. He doesn't come to any decision at all regarding anything. It's the definition of fluff.

So Zab is bussing Yates but he wants someone else to start the wagon?

Mykonian, read on Nero?

Town.

[zabriel]

I started nodding off in the middle of that post and wanted to get it out there. I had honestly forgotten that it was Yates who was making those comments, I wasn't sure what page they were on, and I felt more like finishing my post and taking a nap than rifling backward to find it. Incidentally, I had been hoping somebody would remember who it was so I didn't have to go searching for it. I only noticed the first point about Yates because I was back there looking for stuff to help me process the thing with Myk and thought I'd bring it up while I was back there.

The intent of the last half of that post was to pour out some of my paranoia in an attempt to get discussion going on a wagon that I don't hate, as well as to see if I can actually find slips and to codify a list of lynches that I find acceptable at this point in the game. Currently I'm comfortable voting for Myk, PV, and Yates. I think the wagon on AP is town-driven, but I don't think that AP is actually scum.

On another note, I find it interesting that Kise has me pegged as the messenger. What exactly are your intentions behind sharing what role you think I play in this game?

@Mod: I'm not officially V/LA anymore, I'm just kind of lurky.