Mafiastuck (GAME OVER TOWN WINS!)

[Bumi]

UNVOTE:

Odd and even.

That would make sense.

(stares blankly)

[buldermar]

No the argument is still utterly retarded. On that token he might as well when he is scum intentionally watch specifically Porfevor just to then claim so, which would mean him=town, whilst avoiding any incongruities in actual action. It's WIFOM and there is no way to confirm/disconfirm the distribution.

Except it's in town's best interests to watch Porfevor. It's in scum's interest to watch one of their own. It's not the same as NK wifom because only scum NK. It's not like one of them wants to own it.

That's only true if you completely ignore advantages/disadvantages of having done either when claiming/fakeclaiming. By doing so, it does not resemble a real scenario at all. I'll repeat: it is also in the scum's interest to be able to fakeclaim a town role and have people believe this fakeclaim, which is achieved by targeting who you would have targeted had you been town. It's essentially the same as NK wifom, just with a secondary layer, which may be what is causing you trouble comprehending it.

[buldermar]

You don't have a result for last night, AV?

Odd and Even

LETS ANALYZE MY WAGON FOR A SECOND, PLEASE.

Fate - Is voting me because __________

Nacho - Sheeping fate bcuz IT'S FATE

Avox - Accusing me of drawing him out, despite the fact that if I was on the scumteam and saw his Noir comment I i could have easily put 2 and 2 together and just kill him. I'm not an idiot.

Why would you want to join these people it's like swimming in the kiddie pool at age 15

Oh so if someone else is voting you for a retarded reason and I'm voting you for legitimate reason then I should unvote you? You're amusing.

No, but your reason sucks and your joining the other people who suck so yeah you suck

Have you ever heard a scum say "oh, you're right, you're actually voting me for legitimate reason"? No? Good, then stfu because you'll always be claiming that my reason sucks and you'll do so regardless of your alignment.

[Vifam]

vifam why the hell are you still voting av? how the hell can you say "herp derp, i'm going to kill another power role" when this is a WATCHER and a GOOD FUCKING PERSON TO HAVE AROUND, ESPECIALLY WITH ANOTHER CLAIMED VIGILANTE HANGING AROUND?

YOU JUST WERE WRONG AS FUCK ABOUT MALP

THEN YOU COME IN HERE LIKE O WELL WAT THE HELL AND PUSH THROUGH ANOTHER CLOWNFUCK READ

Okay

The only other counterwagon is me or Maenara, I don't think Maenara is scum, Im not convinced Avox is town. I'm not gonna vote myself, obviously. So I think Im gonna keep my vote where it is

[Vifam]

The only other people I'd consider voting are Fate, BroodKing, and DGB. Other than that it's a no go

[Vifam]

You don't have a result for last night, AV?

Odd and Even

LETS ANALYZE MY WAGON FOR A SECOND, PLEASE.

Fate - Is voting me because __________

Nacho - Sheeping fate bcuz IT'S FATE

Avox - Accusing me of drawing him out, despite the fact that if I was on the scumteam and saw his Noir comment I i could have easily put 2 and 2 together and just kill him. I'm not an idiot.

Why would you want to join these people it's like swimming in the kiddie pool at age 15

Oh so if someone else is voting you for a retarded reason and I'm voting you for legitimate reason then I should unvote you? You're amusing.

No, but your reason sucks and your joining the other people who suck so yeah you suck

Have you ever heard a scum say "oh, you're right, you're actually voting me for legitimate reason"? No? Good, then stfu because you'll always be claiming that my reason sucks and you'll do so regardless of your alignment.

Okay fair enough

[AurorusVox]

SHOW ME WHERE HE CLAIMED VIG AD
Because I ISO'd and I just see him asking to be a dayvig.

Maybe you saw the crumb and so your team killed him?

[AurorusVox]

Umm.

We have 2x scumteams and only 3 kills each night.
Why are we assuming the other vig claim is true? :\

[Bumi]

Who should we vote Av?

[BT]

If he's talking about a crumb on D1 then they didn't kill him on D1 so...
I think it was D2 when he was blatantly calling himself a vig.

Most people believe Mehdi so yes they're assuming two vigs.

[buldermar]

Umm.

We have 2x scumteams and only 3 kills each night.
Why are we assuming the other vig claim is true? :\

There may be protective roles as well.

[AurorusVox]

If he's talking about a crumb on D1 then they didn't kill him on D1 so...
I think it was D2 when he was blatantly calling himself a vig.

Most people believe Mehdi so yes they're assuming two vigs.

Since I'm an odd-night watcher, it's kinda hard for me to have watched him on N2~

So Action Dan is scum for pushing "AV is scum because he didn't watch the vig before the vig had claimed, nor did he watch him on a night that he couldn't watch," add him to the pile of needs-to-die.

Scum are:

Sunshine and Rainbows
Vifam
Maenara
Alduskell
Action Dan


I'll be on Medhi tonight.

[AurorusVox]

Unless AD comes and quotes porf claiming vig D1 in which case he might not be scum.

[Bumi]

If there are protective roles why didn't they save Porfevor?

Why didn't they use the same logic as AV to protect Pandorica?

[AurorusVox]

Hmm.
Bumi is town.

[AurorusVox]

For the first sentence, not the second.

[Vifam]

If there are protective roles why didn't they save Porfevor?

Why didn't they use the same logic as AV to protect Pandorica?

If you're a protective role and you have two vig claims, one is Medhi and the other is Porf, I think you know who you're gonna pick. I would have honestly been more shocked if Medhi was killed, Porf's death really isn't that surprising

[Nachomamma8]

Umm.

We have 2x scumteams and only 3 kills each night.
Why are we assuming the other vig claim is true? :\

because vig is really hard to fake
maybe gambitting sk
but gambitting as an sk? that's so... ballsy.
don't really care for now

The only other counterwagon is me or Maenara, I don't think Maenara is scum, Im not convinced Avox is town. I'm not gonna vote myself, obviously. So I think Im gonna keep my vote where it is

>.>

[Vifam]

Okay I've calmed down a bit

Avox I'll stop voting you if you stop voting me, deal?

[Vifam]

And you have to put Fate back on his leash

[Titan]

Oh, I just realized that Titan must be town.

[Bumi]

I don't know who I would pick.

[Vifam]

If you care about winning even a little you'd probably pick Medhi

[BT]

^ pick for what?

AV what I meant to say that he was 100% unmistakably claiming vig on D2. He was talking about shooting people on D1, so maybe some people thought he was joking.

And Dan is town. So is S&R.

I'm actually less sure about Vifam now but I'm still leaning town since D1.

[Vifam]

Protection, pay attention