Open 465 - Wot's... Uh the Deal? (Game Over! Town Win!)

[Malakittens]

I rather not be lynched when I can be useful later on.

Then again why am I telling you this? You know what I'm capable of.

Vote Count

Adam-12 (L-4): Malakittens
Pirate Mollie (L-2): Shrimp85, Guile
Mantisdreamz(L-4): borkjerfkin
borkjerfkin (L-4): Adam-12
Leviathan (L-4): Pirate Mollie
Malakittens (L-4): ProHawk

Not Voting: leviathan93, Mantisdreamz

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline is Monday, December 17, 2012 at 12:40 PM EST

[ProHawk]

Busy enough to not contribute, but not busy enough to go V/LA, prod dodge with fluffy posts, or get upset when

called out

... voted with pressure.

Mala, you need to be useful now, you are just as likely to be scum as the next guy and the more information you give us to work with, the quicker we can catch you before you kill us all.

RE: School, yes it is final time (at least for me), but I am not asking for you to wall, or take hours, but you aren't doing

anything

.

[Malakittens]

Alright. Going to be v/la til Monday night. Got a bunch of tests to study for and work this weekend.
Ill try and post a little bit, but not certain.

[ProHawk]

It's now Tuesday night. Give me a commitment when you will begin to contribute and I will get off your case until then.

[Malakittens]

Give me until sometime Thursday. My huge research paper is due tomorrow during class which is at 8pm. After that I'm off from work on Thursday.

[Majiffy]

I have to go poop.

That was incredibly satisfying.

[Majiffy]

I guess I don't have to ask the mod anymore anyways. It's almost impossible for him not to see this.
But now it's out there

@MOD

>Implying I've been reading any of this game.

Anyway I've had the pleasure of playing with and modding both of them and I highly doubt either of them are even capable of cheating. It's just not their personalities.

and majiffy said that the people who are scum DID in fact use that time to talk

Actually I phrased it specifically to leave that as an unknown. I wouldn't read too much into the phrasing, and I certainly wouldn't make the claim that I have mod confirmed anything.

Can I go back to not reading any of your posts now? Thanks.

[pirate mollie]

thank you!!!

[Adam-12]

eta: that is actually misrepresenting guille he used his research to ask a question or that is how I took it. his case has been based on my play in this game so no, it was not a meta read.

This is a valid point by Mollie that I don't think was addressed by Hawk. Guille has since that post clarified that his question was not case or alignment aligned.

[ProHawk]

If he wasn't trying to ask the question to prove a point, I was wrong. My scum read of Guille has been slipping since he started posting, and I dropped my vote from him. Or are you asking me about the meta case?

[Adam-12]

Well specifically Mollie's assertion that Guille looked up a previous game of hers which gave her pause that he would be scum aligned.

[Adam-12]

I guess I don't have to ask the mod anymore anyways. It's almost impossible for him not to see this.
But now it's out there

@MOD

>Implying I've been reading any of this game.

Anyway I've had the pleasure of playing with and modding both of them and I highly doubt either of them are even capable of cheating. It's just not their personalities.

and majiffy said that the people who are scum DID in fact use that time to talk

Actually I phrased it specifically to leave that as an unknown. I wouldn't read too much into the phrasing, and I certainly wouldn't make the claim that I have mod confirmed anything.

Can I go back to not reading any of your posts now? Thanks.

Hmm, I'm trying to think of a pun here, a really bad one....

[Majiffy]

Don't make me enforce a mid-game post restriction whereby you have to speak in genderless pronouns. I'll do it.

[Adam-12]

Give me until sometime Thursday. My huge research paper is due tomorrow during class which is at 8pm. After that I'm off from work on Thursday.

This should allow me to fully catch up as well but I am hoping to be caught up by tonight.

[Adam-12]

Reading other games is looking for meta.

Pray-tell

what negative attention did you intentionally garner?

@Pirate Mollie:

The only other game that you used the word Grooming was the Newbie 1286 game.

I don't want to read through it, can you give me a summary of where that got you, considering you were town in that game.

Conclusion: Adam has the best case on Mollie, and I agree with him.

She is inconsistent.

She overreacts to certain accusations and her OMGUS is off the charts.

See bold. It sure looks like he is trying to use it to support his conclusion of you being inconsistent to me.

@Adam, my statement was in no way linking two scum together, but rather just the opposite - read my equation if you are confused.

wrt my bold: you are spinning this. I drew negative attention at my entrance into the thread which you voted on didn't you?

Hawk, you did not reply to this.

[Adam-12]

Reading other games is looking for meta.

Pray-tell

what negative attention did you intentionally garner?

@Pirate Mollie:

The only other game that you used the word Grooming was the Newbie 1286 game.

I don't want to read through it, can you give me a summary of where that got you, considering you were town in that game.

Conclusion: Adam has the best case on Mollie, and I agree with him.

She is inconsistent.

She overreacts to certain accusations and her OMGUS is off the charts.

See bold. It sure looks like he is trying to use it to support his conclusion of you being inconsistent to me.

@Adam, my statement was in no way linking two scum together, but rather just the opposite - read my equation if you are confused.

wrt my bold: you are spinning this. I drew negative attention at my entrance into the thread which you voted on didn't you?

So, you're saying you purposefully questioned Mala to look bad?

You are saying 2 things at once: 1) You drew bad attention from the beginning of the game, 2) You purposefully drew bad attention once you started getting votes on you

I don't understand this.

I don't believe I have read an answer to this post. I would

really

like to read one.

[Adam-12]

i know that she hates being mislynched as town. so that could account for her response.

So she is lying about the oppressed-lylo-martyr-logic?

What about being mislynched as scum?

This question is real.

[Adam-12]

ALL of his posts (few I might add) are like this. What is the deal with these fence sitters this game? Guille, you are taking your sweet time which just may be how you play, but its lookin bad to me. I would much rather see you take time to compile a complete post, instead of leaving us with bits and pieces and have to wait a whole day to get part B.

@Guille: Why did you say earlier that because you "have to go home" you cannot devote more time to Mafia; shouldn't it be the opposite?

I DO need an answer to this question.

[Shrimp85]

Well, aside from the cheating shit.
I believe at least one of the two (mollie Mantis) Is scum.
I have a hard time figuring out what is more scummy, Mollie's subtle PR claim at the start of the game, her constant WIFOM on how mafia play, her OMGUS votes + aggressive playstyle.
Or mantisdreamz lack of effort. She just follows Mollie like a dog.

@ shrimp toddler

your post of accusing mantis and I of cheating is offencive on so many levels and goes beyond the pale of the game.

Shrimp toddler? really?

Offensive on so many levels?
As if you are surprised that someone would assume you would cheat if you two team up in the game, and then we figure out you two know each other personally.
I'm going to have to ignore the idea of you two cheating because there is no proof, but I'm sticking with the idea that one if not both of you are scum.

[Adam-12]

I feel bad that I have to take a stand on this but, now that the Mod has weighed in, I think discussion on the topic of cheating in the way that has already been addressed should never appear in this thread again.

I don't want to see even a defense offered by the accused parties. Instead just +1 this post if you would.

This post brought to you by the Anti-Flamewar Society: "Bringing a more peaceful Mafia game to you today!"

[Adam-12]

The sites that I play on we do not even have an rvs stage most of us will just jump right in and get our hands dirty.

@Mantis: Is the statement from Mollie correct here or is it only true that some games don't use RVS; in other words is this a relative truth (some games) or an absolute truth (all off-site games)?

[Adam-12]

If Mantis is correct (I think she is town), Hawk-Mollie are a strong town voting block and I remember how that felt early on. I actually liked that feeling.

At this point, Bork is whey scummier than Mollie.

Can you please remind me why you find Mantis town.

I have not caught up yet but I have noticed Mantis going through a town-oriented process of scum hunting that includes all players and it is very obvious that she has town-aligned paranoia.

I have noticed a large amount of "non-commital" type posts from her though and will be re-evaluating my read on her once I have caught up. I think we are ultimately safe to assume she is town unless she has enough skill as scum to fake the above stated behaviors (which I have not examined as of yet).

[Malakittens]

Can I put a post restriction on you? I won't be assed to read your ISO and go through 218 posts.

unvote

Your play from your newbie is quite different. There were some similarities such as word choices, but there's a more of a town oriented how you are going about it this game.

Hey Mollie. Since you are from another site. Mind linking me there to a recent town/scum game?

In this order I want to review: ProHawk, Mantis & Mollie.

I still have that town read on Levi. It's mainly due to me modding his recent scum game and his play is different. He was over caring about making enemies which caused him to try to appease those who suspected him, but he didn't do that here.

Which regarding enemies I have an awesome song in my head
"There's no destiny
When everyone's your enemy"

[Adam-12]

Ummm, WAHUT!? Levi has played as scum!?

I am at work but doesn't that make him a liar for all that stumbling over not knowing how a Q/T works during N0?? You had chat during N0 didn't you??

[Malakittens]

I did during the game I modded, but he didn't know about it. In fact it was pretty delayed before he entered the scum QT during Night 1.