Mini 1397: War is Hell (Game Over)

[Voidedmafia]

PV is definitively scummier than Matt right now, IMO. Continually misrepping Tierce and Kinetic, still no amount of decent scumhunting. And of course the complete lack of it up till about page 16 or so.

P-EDIT: Firstly, what Xalxe said.

Secondly, it was 6 with me, that's around when the hurts began. zdenek unvoted to make it 5, and so on.

P-EDIT2: Er, no they aren't? And yes you have?

[PeregrineV]

Fiiine.

There is a piercing cry from above. The next blow is all talons and fury and hot rage.

HURT: PeregrineV

At 4 votes?

Or 4.5 if you count Xalve?

Demon society is breaking down.

[Tierce]

Pseudo Votecount 1.5

(4)

PeregrineV

- Tierce, quadz08, Kinetic, Voidedmafia
(1)

MattP

- Xalxe
(1)

Albert B. Rampage

- Yosarian2
(1)

Kinetic

- PeregrineV

(6)

Not voting

- Albert B. Rampage, kanyeknowsbest,

(PeregrineV,)

scooby, MattP, Lady Lambdadelta, Zdenek


Let me know if there are any mistakes.

[Kinetic]

5 is the magic number. And based on the other hurts, I think they agree with me there. And LLD only unvoted until you returned, she hasn't posted since then, but her support for the wagon and your death is there. And Xalve is a half-vote because he SAID he is a half vote.

with hurting our dear scum.


Make it 6.5; the speed makes me balk but as I said, Matt and PV are scum 1 and scum 2.

(this is me not hurting yet until my #3 is addressed)

The fact of the matter is, there are 7 people in the game that agree you have to die, of them, 6 have voted for you but currently only 4 are voting now. They have each hurt you at 5 or 4 votes, so they must agree that the number of votes is fine.

[PeregrineV]

But if only 4-5 people hurt him, it'll take 2-3 cycles to kill him, allowing him to hurt 2-3 times, and that's if everyone hurts on their timer. The longer people delay, the more hurts he will be able to use, so people who are not on the wagon who are town should be hurting now too to limit the damage he does before he dies.

Don't worry, you're so town you'll be healed in no time flat. /sarcasm

And this seems to be a change in the whole voters do thier own killing thing.

Any other changes to

your

rules?

[Tierce]

Fiiine.

There is a piercing cry from above. The next blow is all talons and fury and hot rage.

HURT: PeregrineV

At 4 votes?

Or 4.5 if you count Xalve?

Demon society is breaking down.

Hello Mr. Cognitive Dissonance We Must Only Hurt People At Seven Votes But Here Let Me Hurt Kinetic Because I Have This Really Amazing(ly Sucky) Scum Read On Him.

I would be Hurting you at this stage if you were down to my vote alone. I'm awesome like that. ^_^

[Xalxe]

Can I just go on record that my name does not have a V? Thanks.

Also PV stop ignoring me pls kthx.

[Kinetic]

Fiiine.

There is a piercing cry from above. The next blow is all talons and fury and hot rage.

HURT: PeregrineV

At 4 votes?

Or 4.5 if you count Xalve?

Demon society is breaking down.

You hurting off vote is what has caused us to go into kill now mode. It was the VERY THING I said might happen when we reached a certain number of votes. Remember this conversation:

There is also another option to this voting system that you're not taking into account. If someone takes off the pedal, and unvotes someone back down to 4, hurting stops. 5 votes is not an instance kill. The kill could still take up to 3 days, assuming everyone voting for him hurts on their timer.

Of course I don't have a compelling reason, other than 5 is less than half of the total players, and can be majority scum.

Why would people unvote? Just to leave them floating at less than maximum hp?

You hurting without having ANY votes on your target opened up the floodgates, not anyone else. And after you die we will return to civility.

[PeregrineV]

And why are you adding a half-vote from Xalve?

I told him to.

That's OK, you destroyed my town read on you fairly quickly.

How?

1. Lack of reads, which is being used against

me.

2. Mechanics discussion that labeled me scum, but Kinetic town by the same people throwing hurts at me.
3. Changing the rules that are supposed to allow for orderly scumhunting.
4. Not fearful of my scum colleagues hurting him, because he knows I don't have any.

[PeregrineV]

PV is definitively scummier than Matt right now, IMO. Continually misrepping Tierce and Kinetic, still no amount of decent scumhunting. And of course the complete lack of it up till about page 16 or so.

P-EDIT: Firstly, what Xalxe said.

Secondly, it was 6 with me, that's around when the hurts began. zdenek unvoted to make it 5, and so on.

P-EDIT2: Er, no they aren't? And yes you have?

I know you want me to shut up and take it, but it ain't going to happen.

[Voidedmafia]

(Hopefully <_<)

P-EDIT: Have responses, will wait for Kinetic.

[Tierce]

we will return to civility

Well as much as demonhood allows~ Like quadz, I am more inclined to *party* mode.

[PeregrineV]

5 is the magic number. And based on the other hurts, I think they agree with me there. And LLD only unvoted until you returned, she hasn't posted since then, but her support for the wagon and your death is there. And Xalve is a half-vote because he SAID he is a half vote.

with hurting our dear scum.


Make it 6.5; the speed makes me balk but as I said, Matt and PV are scum 1 and scum 2.

(this is me not hurting yet until my #3 is addressed)

The fact of the matter is, there are 7 people in the game that agree you have to die, of them, 6 have voted for you but currently only 4 are voting now. They have each hurt you at 5 or 4 votes, so they must agree that the number of votes is fine.

Now you are saying that there is no formal voting system, and you will be the one to interpret what everyone's reads are in a manner that you think best?

We were using votes, when did we switch to this?

[Kinetic]

And why are you adding a half-vote from Xalve?

I told him to.

That's OK, you destroyed my town read on you fairly quickly.

How?

1. Lack of reads, which is being used against

me.

You haven't had any reads ALL GAME, while I've been on several hunts, and when I was floundering, went and tried to dig some up.

2. Mechanics discussion that labeled me scum, but Kinetic town by the same people throwing hurts at me.

Quality of the discussion, obviously.

3. Changing the rules that are supposed to allow for orderly scumhunting.

You changed the rules, not me.

4. Not fearful of my scum colleagues hurting him, because he knows I don't have any.

Your scum colleagues are probably playing it smart right now and not going to out themselves to save you. You, on the other hand, are caught scum, and can hurt with impunity because you're going to die anyway.

[PeregrineV]

Hello Mr. Cognitive Dissonance We Must Only Hurt People At Seven Votes But Here Let Me Hurt Kinetic Because I Have This Really Amazing(ly Sucky) Scum Read On Him.

I would be Hurting you at this stage if you were down to my vote alone. I'm awesome like that. ^_^

Well, I guess we're both a pair of rebels then.

[Kinetic]

5 is the magic number. And based on the other hurts, I think they agree with me there. And LLD only unvoted until you returned, she hasn't posted since then, but her support for the wagon and your death is there. And Xalve is a half-vote because he SAID he is a half vote.

with hurting our dear scum.


Make it 6.5; the speed makes me balk but as I said, Matt and PV are scum 1 and scum 2.

(this is me not hurting yet until my #3 is addressed)

The fact of the matter is, there are 7 people in the game that agree you have to die, of them, 6 have voted for you but currently only 4 are voting now. They have each hurt you at 5 or 4 votes, so they must agree that the number of votes is fine.

Now you are saying that there is no formal voting system, and you will be the one to interpret what everyone's reads are in a manner that you think best?

We were using votes, when did we switch to this?

WHEN YOU HURT SOMEONE WITH NO VOTES! That is when it changed. You voided ALL the rules, and until you're dead the town cannot return to those rules. We still have a consensus on you and you will die. Period.

[PeregrineV]

Can I just go on record that my name does not have a V? Thanks.

Also PV stop ignoring me pls kthx.

I've been answering. Are you looking for 483?

[Tierce]

1. Lack of reads, which is being used against me.
2. Mechanics discussion that labeled me scum, but Kinetic town by the same people throwing hurts at me.
3. Changing the rules that are supposed to allow for orderly scumhunting.
4. Not fearful of my scum colleagues hurting him, because he knows I don't have any.

ahahahahahah


I would like to keep noting that PeregrineV thinks his magical scumread misrepresentation of Kinetic is enough of a reason to Hurt him, but becomes indignant when there is a set of seven players supporting his death (the four current voters + Xalxe + Zdenek + LLD) and he starts being Hurt

because there are not enough votes on him

. (PEdit: Kinetic's 490, essentially.)

I could keep pointing out the extreme cognitive dissonance, but this demon would rather get some popcorn and enjoy the show from over here now. I do have a book to read.

[Xalxe]

Can I just go on record that my name does not have a V? Thanks.

Also PV stop ignoring me pls kthx.

I've been answering. Are you looking for 483?

Yes, which you'll notice was

two posts after that post

.

[PeregrineV]

Fiiine.

There is a piercing cry from above. The next blow is all talons and fury and hot rage.

HURT: PeregrineV

At 4 votes?

Or 4.5 if you count Xalve?

Demon society is breaking down.

You hurting off vote is what has caused us to go into kill now mode. It was the VERY THING I said might happen when we reached a certain number of votes. Remember this conversation:

There is also another option to this voting system that you're not taking into account. If someone takes off the pedal, and unvotes someone back down to 4, hurting stops. 5 votes is not an instance kill. The kill could still take up to 3 days, assuming everyone voting for him hurts on their timer.

Of course I don't have a compelling reason, other than 5 is less than half of the total players, and can be majority scum.

Why would people unvote? Just to leave them floating at less than maximum hp?

You hurting without having ANY votes on your target opened up the floodgates, not anyone else. And after you die we will return to civility.

So less than 5 votes stops the hurting, because as of 472 I had 4 (4.5) votes, and a hurt from Tierce.

[quadz08]

party mode is the best mode

in other news, I am very tempted to go all RAGE and kill him faster, but I think it's more important that we get the people mentioned in my earlier post (abr/scooby/mattp) to use their rage on him instead.

[quadz08]

fucking ninjas jesus

WHEN YOU HURT SOMEONE WITH NO VOTES! That is when it changed. You voided ALL the rules, and until you're dead the town cannot return to those rules. We still have a consensus on you and you will die. Period.

this is stupid.

[quadz08]

Well ok, it's only stupid in principle, not in this particular circumstance. We need to stick with the rules, we can't break them willy-nilly. In this case, it is clear that there's a consensus, so it's nbd etc.

[Kinetic]

Fiiine.

There is a piercing cry from above. The next blow is all talons and fury and hot rage.

HURT: PeregrineV

At 4 votes?

Or 4.5 if you count Xalve?

Demon society is breaking down.

You hurting off vote is what has caused us to go into kill now mode. It was the VERY THING I said might happen when we reached a certain number of votes. Remember this conversation:

There is also another option to this voting system that you're not taking into account. If someone takes off the pedal, and unvotes someone back down to 4, hurting stops. 5 votes is not an instance kill. The kill could still take up to 3 days, assuming everyone voting for him hurts on their timer.

Of course I don't have a compelling reason, other than 5 is less than half of the total players, and can be majority scum.

Why would people unvote? Just to leave them floating at less than maximum hp?

You hurting without having ANY votes on your target opened up the floodgates, not anyone else. And after you die we will return to civility.

So less than 5 votes stops the hurting, because as of 472 I had 4 (4.5) votes, and a hurt from Tierce.

Bill Clinton - “You got to (admit) one thing — it takes some brass to attack a guy for doing what you did.”

[Tierce]

So less than 5 votes stops the hurting, because as of 472 I had 4 (4.5) votes, and a hurt from Tierce.

No.

You

changed the rules.

You

defended "7 votes are needed before Hurting someone!" and then Hurt Kinetic just because.

This means the rules are off. This means you die immediately, because you are scum, and we have nothing to gain from waiting and keeping you alive so you can Hurt more.


Okay I'm done because every post of mine is repeating something someone else has said it is hard to type with talons k.