Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Legacy (Game Over)

[Benmage]

The SK will suicide? Interesting strat

She will obviously not suicide.

Sk is likely BP.

Scum will not kill her, have no reason too.

Again we lynch her. Simple.

[pidgey]

Yeah i waslike the only one that was correct in my theadmiral lynch yet omg look at this counterwagon!

Im not afraid to die at all but people should look into my reads after im dead. Baring benmage, im almost completely sure i was right.

I will still give more reads later, for now lets get the most antitown slot out of the way. Look at how he had "so much fun" during the tammy benmage debacle setting up misslynches and how he has basicallly cringed to the easiest targets.

Vote mykonian

[pidgey]

Theadmiral read*

[pidgey]

Tammy you better fucking name claim in your next post or i will outright vote you.

[pappums rat]

Votecount 2.8 (First VC since daykill)

"Wands away. There will be no need to talk." -Dolores Umbrige
"No need to think is more like it." -Hermione Granger, Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix

Tammy - 3 (snifit, AngryPidgeon, Acosmist)
pidgey - 2 (mykonian, mastin2)
Kise - 1 (Kublai Khan)
BloodCovenant - 1 (Tammy)
Kublai Khan - 1 (Kise)
mykonian - 1 (pidgey)

Not voting - zabriel, BloodCovenant, PeregrineV, Zoroaster, Yates, Benmage, jasonT1981, Elscouta, Nero Cain

Elscouta replaces rapidcanyon effective immediately. Thanks again!

Searching for a replacement for BloodCovenant

With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch.

The deadline for Day 2 is 3 PM EST on November 15, 2012.

[AngryPidgeon]

Assertion that Pidgey is scum: false.

Try again Mastin.

UNVOTE: Tammy
VOTE: Kise

Shameless counterwagon to pidgey wagon.

P-edit: Ben, why aren't you voting Tammy >.>

Congratz on your scum PM Elscouta.

[pidgey]

AP vote mykonian read his iso

Tell me he isnt scummy as le fuck

[mykonian]

Yeah i waslike the only one that was correct in my theadmiral lynch yet omg look at this counterwagon!

Im not afraid to die at all but people should look into my reads after im dead. Baring benmage, im almost completely sure i was right.

I will still give more reads later, for now lets get the most antitown slot out of the way. Look at how he had "so much fun" during the tammy benmage debacle setting up misslynches and how he has basicallly cringed to the easiest targets.

Vote mykonian

Baring benmage. And that was one horrible vote.

And if you didn't have fun between tammy and benmage, I don't know what you are doing here. Nobody backed out and something real was happening, one of them was scum. You don't get those situations that often. I even stayed up for it And I'm pretty sure I didn't "set up mislynches" as I was mostly there to watch it play out.

[pidgey]

I had fun as you could see from my posts which actually had content and was not just me sitting in my butt waiting for town/otherscumteam to destroy each other.

;(

[pidgey]

Im pretty much one of the guys that has the most fun i think.

[Acosmist]

My problem with the cunning plan is not the obvious one.

It's the fact that we can definitely lynch scum now or maybe lynch scum now.

Let's just do the certain scum today.

[mykonian]

Oh damn

I was attacking the cop lol

vote: Tammy

Im gay sorry

I didnt park cause i just moved it before you made that post!

*glasses* YEAAH

Lets Wingardium Leviosa the hell out of scum together.

Pedit- FUCK this is getting real. How can you prove it? YOu have had to softclaimed that shit somewhere. I NEED PROOF NOW.

I WANT PROOF OF YOU TAMMY, NOT A COUNTERCLAIM. I NEED SOLID SOFTCLAIMS ABOUT YOUR KILLS

I give you 2 mins

I want some sort of softclaim or im not unvoting. This feels like fishing for a counterclaim. Im pretty sure a vig would have breadcrumbed it someway after killing scum d1.

What's lame as shit about it?

I guess im using the wrong word. Breadcrumbs. That's what i want.

Im perfectly ok with being vigged to prove whatever as long as its right now.

Why do you want me shoot Benmage? Its perfectly fine to ask fro breadcrubs if there are any. (Which there apperantly arent)

Arent you reasing my last 5 posts? There are all completely town motivated.

BTW IF tammy IS a vig AND benmage is really scum im like one of the only ones that had been claling benmage scum so yeah.

What does "Pidgey doesn't get more obvious then this" mean you idiot? Is asking for breadcrubs any sort of scumtell to you AFTER someone claimed when they have a SCUM result on themselves?

I hate you so much right now but im starting to feel you are town.

Mastin wants me dead because she is probably scum and thinks going for easy target me right now is the best option. Consider how he doesn't even take a stance on WHO is scum out of Tammy and Benmage, she is fencesitting like a champion in her last post.

She just wants someone else dead form the vig.

Mykonian- But wouldnt town vigs crumb something? You know, in case THEY ARE ABOUT TO BE LYNCHED LIKE RIGHT NOW.
Anyway that's still a fucking dumb reason to want me dead but nice tunneling there brah

I guess I see your point then

Im dumb

unvote

Lets see what happens

If everyone is telling the truth and if for some reason Tammy is SK too then we will figure it out I think

What's with the hurry Ben

I dont think Benmage, if scum, would actually just go and claim COP as SCUM when its D2 and there were no NKs. Seems like a bad trade off for scum, even if he was a goon.

I dunno. I probably wouldnt shoot Benmage. As much as it would be cool for me if he was scum.

Just saying that if tammy was framed then flavorwise it wouldnt make sense for veritasium to fail since you have to say the complete truth lol

"Mafia Logic Failure"

pedit- I dunno that could still be bad since as scum posing as a proved insane cop you'd still have to throw innocents around unless you claim paranoid

Help the mod is shit reasoning to kill someone. Sorry

Mastin is a good shot

Pedit- Im a sensible guy~~

Im town though :=)

LOL i dont give a rats ass about BC.

Whos BC anyway

I just think Mastin has a better chance of being scum

Y u no claim your flavor name

So how does your mill works? Is it by posting it here or emailing the pappums cause i dont know why the 2 work.

So, these are your post throughout the whole discussion. Feel free to post the numbers of quotes which actually have content.

[pidgey]

Most of em im so good YEAH!

[pidgey]

I put pressure on the cop- check

I put pressure on the vig- check

I made dumb assumptions which are generally made by toen (wifom but yeah) - check

[mykonian]

I just asked for numbers of quotes which contain content.

I think I found 2 now.

[jasonT1981]

I think we do leave Tammy alive for now..

She didn't shoot the guilty.... good play actually, since we will lynch it anyway. She shoots the guilty result, then what... day continues, where do we go from there,

Kill someone else (who could have been scum, sadly not) and go ahead and lynch the guilty.

Its not that hard to work out, is it?>

[jasonT1981]

I think we do leave Tammy alive for now..

She didn't shoot the guilty.... good play actually, since we will lynch it anyway. She shoots the guilty result, then what... day continues, where do we go from there,

Kill someone else (who could have been scum, sadly not) and go ahead and lynch the guilty.

Its not that hard to work out, is it?>

[snifit]

Christ, Jason. Tammy IS the guilty result.

I think it's clear she's the SK. Leaving her alive is a huge mistake. Town is in a great position, and leaving the SK alive will only erode that. She shot scum--that's gravy. Let's lynch her, and use our huge number of lynches to our advantage.

[Kise]

Didn't consider day/night multiball. Aco may very well be town's limited killing role.

unvote; vote tammy

Because I'm scum and this is what I want, mastin.

@AP, I wasn't following. I think me (and others) suspecting/theorizing that you were stalling the snifit wagon was a legit reason to pair you two, and that doesn't mean I copied someone else's interpretation of things. If everyone thinks water is transparent, it may be transparent after all. As for me being next on the train list... there's still no word on what makes me scum to mastin. Can't say I'm sweating it.

[Kise]

Didn't consider day/night multiball.

Forgot to mention... I had a brainfart at the fact it's a guilty result and not 'neutral', 'unknown' or some other cliche read for third party.

[Elscouta]

Hi.

I'm replacing rapidcanyon. I haven't read the thread yet, and will most likely need a few days to do so, so don't expect real content before Friday.

Please tell me if there is any specific point that I should focus on, or question that should be answered.

[jasonT1981]

Christ, Jason. Tammy IS the guilty result.

I think it's clear she's the SK. Leaving her alive is a huge mistake. Town is in a great position, and leaving the SK alive will only erode that. She shot scum--that's gravy. Let's lynch her, and use our huge number of lynches to our advantage.

Urgh, my attention from this game is failing. I should not post at 3am.

[mastin2]

First off, warning for the rest of the day, yesterday was a very. bad. day. for me, and I woke up feeling quite bitter, and things which I could normally use to relieve my stress weren't there, meaning I've got a lot of pent up anger. So if I come across as a little bit snappy, I apologize; it'd be me venting frustration here.

Because SK Tammy shooting COP BEN gets power lynched so hard she doesn't know what hit her. Duh??

This is the exact reason why WE SHOULD LET TAMMY LIVE. All this "she'll shoot Benmage!" is a plain and simple Appeal to Fear. She didn't shoot Benmage today, she won't shoot Benmage tomorrow. She had her chance, and chose not to take it. Tomorrow she'll have a chance, and she'll once more choose not to take it. It's as simple as that.

So is the thought of Tammy being BP. Making her BP and making her a daykiller means that she's immune to the scum and can stop a lynch on her dead cold, by, say, vigging when she's been put to L-1, which resets the votecount. Same thing; it's an appeal to fear. Day-SKs are strong as it is. NK-immune Day-SKs are plain and simple OP. Maybe in a larger game, but with 21 players, you're looking at an SK who has AT MOST one advantage.

It's the fact that we can definitely lynch scum now or maybe lynch scum now.

Let's just do the certain scum today.

Aco, bluntly, I think you're town, but if you continue pushing this lynch, I'm policy-lynching you tomorrow for killing the one person who can safely target you using this logic.

Tammy won't flip mafia.

We can lynch maybe-mafia today (a suspect), or we can lynch someone who is definitely not mafia (Tammy).
Lynching Tammy is effectively lynching town. Yes, she won't flip town, but she's not flipping mafia, and we need to lynch mafia.

Because I'm scum and this is what I want, mastin.

Yes, you are.
VOTE: Kise.

[Benmage]

Ah right dayKILL(see the mods note) not DAYVIG that Tammy pretended to do reset my vote on her.

Vote Tammy

[Benmage]

Mastin you're incredibly anti-town right now.

You won't get majority on anyone else, beacuse I for one, and I'm sure others aren't lynching OUTSIDE OF TAMMY.

So stop dragging out the enevitable.

Put this into a Worth Persperctive.

Killing Tammy:
-antitown dead, helps reveal setup info check check
--and eliminate future miskills check
-day isn't dragged out check
-ensures no foul play, and cop remains alive check

Not Killing Tammy:
-requires us to kill her at a later (maybe less fortunate position) This can be a minus or a check... we can't predict the future
-Allows her to free fire:
-- killing scum check
-- killing town minus
-- killing town PRS minus minus

You're playing too idealistic keeping her alive.

We don't need it, bottomline. No reason to risk her living.

When would be the ideal time to lynch her?? As scum won't NK her, probably can't.