Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Legacy (Game Over)

[Yates]

but how likely do you think it is that the message is from town then?

That's the only part I don't know. Where is the messenger getting their information from? I was in a game where cop results were messaged to a reporter. And another game where someone was a "ghost" and could send one message per night to a Townie but if they tried to message scum they would be "exorcised."

[Yates]

Explain why it's bad to out town.

Scum night target?

[Kublai Khan]

P-edit: Ya, I'm not insane here right? Tammy already said she thinks its from town. And unless Tammy and a buddy are gambiting super hard, I do not believe that they can be scum/scum.

With apologies to Tammy, but Tammy could be wrong.

Explain why it's bad to out town.

Scum night target?

You'd cry over the loss of a town messenger?

[Yates]

You'd cry over the loss of a town messenger?

Depends. Tammy hasn't said what the info is yet. If that's how our cops communicate without outing themselves? Yeah. I would QQ in my Cheerios.

[Kublai Khan]

You'd cry over the loss of a town messenger?

Depends. Tammy hasn't said what the info is yet. If that's how our cops communicate without outing themselves? Yeah. I would QQ in my Cheerios.

Doesn't sound like an amnesiac cop. Sounds like a mailman.

Also, and I'm not really sure how to handle this, but I received a message last night. I had this role once before and was told the basic purpose of it was to confirm that role and that someone took that action, instead of killing I guess, that night. Anyway, I dont know if i sould have kept that to myself, but ill be able to verify the sender if and when its necessary. For the last two parts, I feel the same and yes.

And no, btw, I'm not claiming who messaged me right now. I'll leave that up to discussion for what's the best course of action. It will be outing one person's role and will be narrowing the pool for everyone else. I made sure it was there for confirmation purposes. And, I'm not outing the message either. If the sender wants to say what they sent to me that's their prerogative. It was no big secret and nothing great and game changing so there's no need whatsoever; it was just one person's thoughts about the game I'm not going to violate that. Also, I'm fairly certain the sender of the message is on your town list and is someone I very strongly believe to be town as well; that's pretty much all I'm going to say about that.

[Benmage]

I'm with KK here.

Tammy gets NK(by the vig or SK or something other than scum, as she is scum)

Then the info is lost, no?

I don't get the reason not to out, both the message and the messenger. Otherwise wtf did Tammy out it anyways?

pedit:Tammy could easily say it was cop-related info

[Benmage]

Also in what KK just quoted.

Tammy says the message was or resulted in the lack of a NK...?!??!? How was this not readdressed????

How did the message = no NK?????

OUT the scum who sent the message than???

Seems like to much smoke bullshit.... have all the information outted I say.

[mastin2]

And I've been scum in 8/9 games with mastin2.

Pretty sure that we haven't had nine previous games together. Maybe nine total, including this one, but I seem to recall in SG-1 that I did the numbers and it was 6/6, maybe 7/7. Add in the next game, and that's either 6/7 or 7/8. Not 8/9.

Need to double-check to make sure, but this seems like a scumslip.

[Benmage]

Also, and I'm not really sure how to handle this, but I received a message last night. I had this role once before and was told the basic purpose of it was to confirm that role and

that someone took that action,

instead of killing

I guess, that night.

Anyway, I dont know if i sould have kept that to myself, but ill be able to verify the sender if and when its necessary. For the last two parts, I feel the same and yes.

[mastin2]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/search.php?k ... mit=Search

742, Mafia 96, Desert Mafia, Brightest Day, Stargate, and Playground, that I can find.
/gotta go. Be back later.

[Kublai Khan]

And I've been scum in 8/9 games with mastin2.

Pretty sure that we haven't had nine previous games together. Maybe nine total, including this one, but I seem to recall in SG-1 that I did the numbers and it was 6/6, maybe 7/7. Add in the next game, and that's either 6/7 or 7/8. Not 8/9.

Need to double-check to make sure, but this seems like a scumslip.

Goddamn, mastin2. The numbers are pulled out of my ass.

@Benmage - Go back to 1016 and read at least 12 posts from that. Both me & Yates addressed that.

[AngryPidgeon]

And I've been scum in 8/9 games with mastin2.

Pretty sure that we haven't had nine previous games together. Maybe nine total, including this one, but I seem to recall in SG-1 that I did the numbers and it was 6/6, maybe 7/7. Add in the next game, and that's either 6/7 or 7/8. Not 8/9.

Need to double-check to make sure, but this seems like a scumslip.

Spoiler:

Ya, Tammy took that back and said it was just poor phrasing. I do not understand how Tammy is undesirable #1, yet you apparently don't care to read her posts.

[Benmage]

Pidgey, first lets go over my quick synopsis of you.
-You yield you haven't been involved in the game, therefore your contribution is lacking.
-I list you in my probscum list.
--You ask why?
---I respond.
End. Thats it. There was no crusade against you. I'm not voting you. You seem to be overreacting to minimal pressure that you yourself yield are guilty of.

Not really liking benmage at all since he is clinging to a so easy target as myself, I mean how in the fuck can he have a scumread on me lol. Amrun was pretty much not a big factor either. Actually im voting this person for now i was waiting to catch up completely but this is a good old vote for now!

Tammy is such a hard player to read, she posts a lot of walls that I mostly skim. I like that she is going against benmage, who I immediatly disliked since before i reread because he had me as scum read because I exist in the game, so for now Im thinking she might be one of our good town members.

Ughhh pidgey there's so much fail in the basic mafia gameplay here.

You basically just said you found me scummy for calling you scum and you found Tammy town for calling you town.

Committing two major mafia fallacies. A you pretty much did the epitome of an omgus to me. Moreover you fell in to the easy trap of scum buddying town so that town are less likely to call out someone calling them town.

That said the manner of your last posts does read better.
-Overreaction people right off a scum, I'm disagreeing here.
-The buddying trap...zzzzzzz, you need to step back and go from an unbiased perspective (its tough)

[Benmage]

Ya, Tammy took that back and said it was just poor phrasing. I do not understand how Tammy is undesirable #1, yet you apparently don't care to read her posts.

She took that back ... awesome. Look its not that I'm not reading. I JUST GOT POWER BACK, I DONT HAVE INTERNET... wtf. I'm doing the best I can.

Anyways if she took it back, all the more reason to put fourth all the information.

How do you not see it as scum backtracking?

[Benmage]

AP

who are your top 3 suspects?

[Kublai Khan]

Ya, Tammy took that back and said it was just poor phrasing. I do not understand how Tammy is undesirable #1, yet you apparently don't care to read her posts.

She took that back ... awesome. Look its not that I'm not reading. I JUST GOT POWER BACK, I DONT HAVE INTERNET... wtf. I'm doing the best I can.

Anyways if she took it back, all the more reason to put fourth all the information.

How do you not see it as scum backtracking?

It's not backtracking per say. She just clarified that it indicates that the person who sent the message could not have also sent a night-kill.

[Benmage]

Meh, whatever.

The point is which I think you agree... there's NO reason not to out the message..

and really, little reason not to out the messanger.

[Yates]

Sounds like a mailman.

Ok. At worst this is like a weak neighbor, right? Would you [KK or Benmage] want a neighbor to out a neighbor?

[Yates]

there's NO reason not to out the message

This I can support.

[AngryPidgeon]

I just made a nice list, Benmage.

Kise/RC are top 2. If I were a 3x 1 time day vig I guess my 3rd would be jason.

@KK: I didn't get that out of her post at first, but I guess she was saying that. But some mods let you take multiple actions I thought? Does Pappum have a history of doing it one way?

P-edit: I guess Im ok with outing the message. Although Tammy already implied it was some sort of friendly neighbor message.

[Kublai Khan]

Sounds like a mailman.

Ok. At worst this is like a weak neighbor, right? Would you [KK or Benmage] want a neighbor to out a neighbor?

No, it sounds nothing like a neighbor. It sounds like a mailman. It's a one-way message, though the moderator.

[Benmage]

AP your obvtown. But I don't like your scum suspects. Kise-probtown. Jay-slighttown. RC, being replaced.

ZZZZzzz we have 3 people being replaced. Several on V/La, and a few replacements still catching up. All = pain for town.

[Yates]

No, it sounds nothing like a neighbor. It sounds like a mailman. It's a one-way message, though the moderator.

I get it. Look at your link:

If the communication aspect is utilized to its fullest, this role can be conditionally considered a fair bit weaker than Neighborizer.

[Benmage]

Also for those who wanted scrutingy of Tammy, look at Thad's post:
post 1140


I would stress the point 'all my motives are town, how can't you see that'... with the final comment Thad highlights.

***The last one is so bad, it reads like daring me to claim cop with a guilty on her. I did this as scum in Scummies Winvitational where Faradaytown wasn't explaining a read on a scum buddy of mine. I was trying to see if he had a cop guilty.

conc: MOAR TAMMY VOTES.

[Zoroaster]

Mod: Sorry about that. I lost power from Sandy. I'm back now, if you'll take me.