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Post Post #875 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:07 pm

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In post 865, Epic wrote:
In post 858, Cheery Dog wrote:Bah myultiquote failed, and now since I don't have the scum claim quoted won't use either of the quotes I tried to multiquote, and the second one will not even matter a out was going to be a pointless question anyway.
UNVOTE: VOTE: buldermar

you just earned yourself a permanent spot on the scumread list

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Post Post #876 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:08 pm

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Robo, getting me all worked up shouldn't be your idea of fun.
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Post Post #877 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:09 pm

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In post 874, Robocopter87 wrote:Didn't DV do it first? I wasn't lying about skimming

Eh they both voted him but DV was cool and calm and rational about it and then unvoted while Malp got all worked up and kept calling for his head like it was a witch hunt or something.
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Post Post #878 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:11 pm

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I kind of think the vote on Buld seemed kind of town, which is kind of the reason I unvoted for the minute.

I also liked the way he backed off on him too, asking him to "unclaim" (which is retarded) rang as town to me.
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Post Post #879 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:15 pm

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VOTE: malpascp

Bad reaction to the scum claim, especially the "playing to your win condition" bit.
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Post Post #880 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:15 pm

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Town thought process:
Spoiler:
In post 778, DeasVail wrote:I don't understand how a modkill would be appropriate, but anyway...

I also think Nacho may be trying too hard to look town and unconventional.

Malpascp, what constitutes playing against your win condition is way too subjective imo. If someone just plays badly can they be modkilled? Claiming scum as scum could be a legitimate strategy.

I don't know, I want to vote buldermar on policy because of the claim, and I don't really click with him anyway.

Vote: Buldermar

In post 782, DeasVail wrote:
In post 779, buldermar wrote:
Will you unvote should I unclaim?

Yeah probably.

PEdit: Do you think the claim is a towntell?

In post 790, DeasVail wrote:Buldermar, why aren't you unclaiming?

In post 799, DeasVail wrote:Nacho, I have seen town claim scum in RVS and stuff like that, but not as Buldermar did under pressure. I am unsure about it, and am confused as to how you could be confident enough to call my vote terrible.

I am less sure I want to lynch buldermar based on his recent posting though.

In post 800, DeasVail wrote:
Unvote: Buldermar


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In post 774, malpascp wrote:Modkill?

In post 776, malpascp wrote:You are not allowed to play against your win condition.

In post 780, malpascp wrote:You claimed scum 10 minutes ago. The hell you are going to unclaim. And stop posting red.

Getting yourself killed is against your wincon. I've seen it happening. Unless you are a freaking jester.

In post 785, malpascp wrote:Hell no. Town doesn't claim scum. Never at all. Scum can do it to spread confusion and WIFOM. And I bet there are no Jesters in this game.

unvote; Vote: buldermar


P-Edit: not a town tell. reasoning above

P-Edit x2: explain to me why did you claim scum. Now.

In post 804, malpascp wrote:Drowning in my tunnel? This guy claimed scum. Asked for the chance to unclaim, got it, and rejected it. And then confirmed himself as scum again. I bet you won't find anything, and yes, even if you do, I won't unvote. The only person that can say something to make me unvote buldermar is himself. Deal with it (or vote him, whatever).

P-Edit: fucking dumbass. Someone vig him.
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Post Post #881 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:17 pm

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In post 759, buldermar wrote:
You seem to be under the impression that I am more accountable for my vote because of already placed votes on Paschendale; this is incorrect.

There was indeed more than one way to try to interpret him asking to be replaced. Whether I jumped to the most damning narrative is a matter of opinion, but I did not try to give my vote substance off of words like "embarrassed", I sincerely think that should he be scum, this is a likely way to interpret it. However, I don't rule out the possibility of him not being scum. In fact, he's statistically more likely to flip town than scum in my opinion, even if he's the most likely person to be scum in the game.

Indeed, I could have been more cautious in my diction. In hindsight, that would probably have prevented your vote on me. I could have phrased the same intended message as "This could be read as: bla bla" I think it's likely enough that reading it this was is correct for me to vote him, bla bla.

Tell me, do you think it could not have been read the way I read it? If so, why not? Do you rule out the possibility of him being embarrassed about giving away his alignment so quickly (given the premise that he's scum, ofc.)? If so, why?


You are not more more accountable than others as far as the value of "1 vote" is concerned but there was momentum gathering on Paschle that looked unstoppable enough that it easily could have led to his lynch, and if he is town then mafia would have secured a mislynch. In this sense your vote was oppurtunistic.

you say, "should he be scum" but you are jumping to that conclusion and then interpreting his statements in that context; you don't have any real backup that led to your opinion of Paschle being scum in the first place.

Your diction was a red flag for oppurtunistic embellishing, not the underlying principle of my vote which is as follows:

You say "This could be read as: bla bla [i.e as scum]" but don't have any reason for supposing it is or not based on anything else.

As to the questions; No, he's not replacing out because he's embarrased he was found out as scum even if he were scum. That would require a level of dignity unfit for a human being that I am not prepared to ascribe to paschle. If he's replacing out, it's because he means what he says, that he has no idea why there's a large wagon on him for reasons he can't fathom, which imo is null (although the way he said it makes me lean town on the slot and makes me adverse to lynching it in general).

Your recent antics over the last few pages is nullish-scummy because the length you went to prolong the "reaction test" allowed you to lap up some limited sympathy even if it gave you a few enemies.

Your supposed 2 town reads you got out of it gives me only slight pause.

FOS: Titan


The angst you displayed in your last few posts is the same quality I saw eariler and it feels just as out of place now as then. It smells scummy
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Post Post #882 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:18 pm

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In post 875, Cheery Dog wrote:
In post 865, Epic wrote:
In post 858, Cheery Dog wrote:Bah myultiquote failed, and now since I don't have the scum claim quoted won't use either of the quotes I tried to multiquote, and the second one will not even matter a out was going to be a pointless question anyway.
UNVOTE: VOTE: buldermar

you just earned yourself a permanent spot on the scumread list

Such a pity I'm not scum then isn't it?


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DeasVail wrote:Robo, getting me all worked up shouldn't be your idea of fun.


Its fun to find out though.

Titan wrote:
In post 874, Robocopter87 wrote:Didn't DV do it first? I wasn't lying about skimming

Eh they both voted him but DV was cool and calm and rational about it and then unvoted while Malp got all worked up and kept calling for his head like it was a witch hunt or something.


Both of them were ridiculous.

The fact that DV voted someone who claimed scum is enough to buy my vote.

The fact that malp got worked about it is enough to buy my vote.

You don't encourage scum claimers. You ignore with a wave of the hand.

Vifam wrote:I kind of think the vote on Buld seemed kind of town, which is kind of the reason I unvoted for the minute.

I also liked the way he backed off on him too, asking him to "unclaim" (which is retarded) rang as town to me.


Why the heck does retarded always seem to be a town trait and not a scum trait?

Seriously do you know how easy this game would be if we could catch scum like that?
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Post Post #883 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:19 pm

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PS notice how Malp contradicts himself:

First he says that Blunder can't unclaim because it doesn't work like that:
In post 780, malpascp wrote:The hell you are going to unclaim.


And then when Blunder was offered a chance to unclaim and didn't Malp seized the opportunity and called him scummy for not unclaiming:
In post 804, malpascp wrote:Drowning in my tunnel? This guy claimed scum. Asked for the chance to unclaim, got it, and rejected it.
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Post Post #884 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:19 pm

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In post 692, Paschendale wrote:I legit have no idea how you guys are finding me scummy here. I'm really completely at a loss for how you discern alignment out of a game so stuffed with garbage that nobody even looks like they're trying.

I'll just replace out and you guys can play with someone who understands how these big games work. And I'll probably avoid them in the future. They're not nearly as fun for me as I thought they would be.

Mod: I'd like to be replaced.

this mans also bad mans!

many mans say he bad, he speak back in badmans manner

when votes go continue on cartoonman, he get angry and leave game

leave game with bad speakback is badmans, he need die
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Post Post #885 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:21 pm

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The only way I'm seeing it is that malp really thought buld was scum. Whether this means malp is scum or town I don't know, but I don't think he's not more scummy for it.

PEdit: Well yeah, I didn't get what malp meant by me giving him the chance to unclaim. I just thought that because he even asked that question he was less likely scum. That would be the one thing that was maybe scummy. Otherwise, he doesn't seem that scummy to me though.
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Post Post #886 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:21 pm

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In post 883, Titan wrote:PS notice how Malp contradicts himself:

First he says that Blunder can't unclaim because it doesn't work like that:
In post 780, malpascp wrote:The hell you are going to unclaim.


And then when Blunder was offered a chance to unclaim and didn't Malp seized the opportunity and called him scummy for not unclaiming:
In post 804, malpascp wrote:Drowning in my tunnel? This guy claimed scum. Asked for the chance to unclaim, got it, and rejected it.

this is actually disgusting
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Post Post #887 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:22 pm

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The first 'he' is buldermar.
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Post Post #888 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:22 pm

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In post 886, Pandorica wrote:
In post 883, Titan wrote:PS notice how Malp contradicts himself:

First he says that Blunder can't unclaim because it doesn't work like that:
In post 780, malpascp wrote:The hell you are going to unclaim.


And then when Blunder was offered a chance to unclaim and didn't Malp seized the opportunity and called him scummy for not unclaiming:
In post 804, malpascp wrote:Drowning in my tunnel? This guy claimed scum. Asked for the chance to unclaim, got it, and rejected it.

this is actually disgusting


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Post Post #889 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:23 pm

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like there's no way in hell you believe that 'contradiction' is relevant.

i alsoo don't see why 'getting worked up' here is at all scummy? if he believed he had claimed scum legit then why wouldn't he get work?
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Post Post #890 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:23 pm

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i translate in case can't read:

This man is one of the bad mans.

And I said he is a bad man, a lot of people, he is a bad man responded in the same way.

When many people continued to vote for him, he leaves the game when angry.

He means that he need to die after respond badly, and then leave game, he is a bad man
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Post Post #891 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:23 pm

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In post 890, torgonitoh wrote:i translate in case can't read:

This man is one of the bad mans.

And I said he is a bad man, a lot of people, he is a bad man responded in the same way.

When many people continued to vote for him, he leaves the game when angry.

He means that he need to die after respond badly, and then leave game, he is a bad man


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Post Post #892 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:24 pm

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VOTE: vote paschedale
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Post Post #893 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:24 pm

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I know this is a controversial opinion, but I actually love torgonitoh.
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Post Post #894 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:24 pm

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it's fairly obvious arthur's decided that malp is scum and is bs'ing reasons to vote him. i don't know whether he's doing it maliciously or not but it really should stop. malp's reaction looks townish to me. the modkill request + the asking the mod if there were PR's makes it genuine.
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Post Post #895 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:24 pm

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In post 893, DeasVail wrote:I know this is a controversial opinion, but I actually love torgonitoh.

Nah, I think he's great too.
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Post Post #896 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:24 pm

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In post 891, Robocopter87 wrote:Nacho called him town.

Why is this important statement?
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Post Post #897 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:25 pm

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In post 889, Pandorica wrote:like there's no way in hell you believe that 'contradiction' is relevant.

i alsoo don't see why 'getting worked up' here is at all scummy? if he believed he had claimed scum legit then why wouldn't he get work?

B/c he would see that there is a chance (a
huge
chance in this case but w/e) that Blunder might be town.
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Post Post #898 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:25 pm

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In post 893, DeasVail wrote:I know this is a controversial opinion, but I actually love torgonitoh.
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Post Post #899 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:25 pm

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deasvail what do you think of malp's reaction to the scum claim?

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