NY 160: Terrible Melodrama Mafia (Game Over)

[Untrod Tripod]

I love this Senjai guy.

[Senjai]

I love this Senjai guy.

Im not sure but im pretty sure that I can be sure that your sure to be sarcastic when the word love is in your sentences.

[Untrod Tripod]

nah, I was being serious. you've been super transparent so far. that usually bodes well for later

[DeasVail]

@MOD: Where is Number Six?

I will prod him if he hasn't posted in ~11 hours.

@Mod, take care of that post plz?

I'm sorry I wasn't there at the time, but I've fixed it now.

Vote Count 1.04

JacobSavage (5)- Plan B, DoomYoshi, Toon Fighter, theamatuer, Senjai
PiggyGal15 (3)- Cletus+Brandine, Untrod Tripod, adorkable
Senjai (2)- JacobSavage, Nero Cain
Nero Cain (1)- Demon Core
Toon Fighter (1)- PiggyGal15
adorkable (1)- 4nxi3ty

Not voting: N, Number Six

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline

14th November, 6am AEDT

[Plan B]

p s. I was first on your wagon I think

Is this in response to:

It makes absolutely no sense to not comment on me as I was the first player to vote for him, without giving any explanation. Feels to me like he just doesn't want to engage, whereas a more natural Townie reaction would be to take issue with something like that.

@Everyone on the JS wagon.

Why is JS scummy for calling somebody "nervos town" but 4xn skates by for doing something similar?

1. Welp, guess the whole case on JacobSavage is made of nothing but straw. Glad you pointed that out for us and destroyed it. /sarcasm

2. What do you see similar from 4nxi3ty?

3. Even if I agreed that 4nxi3ty's play is similar (which I don't), why does that make JacobSavage's play any less scummy?

This reads like a major attempt at distraction from JacobSavage. Do you have a strong Town read on JacobSavage? If you've already expressed it, I don't remember it. So, please either point me to it, or explain it.

I'd support a wagon on Nero Cain for the above, Demon Core's original reasoning on him, and because Nero Cain's push against Senjai contains too much

For sanitys sake, this guy needs death soon.

I don't get any sense that Nero Cain is trying to lynch scum from his perspective, just trying to lynch someone who's easily unlikeable.

I also support the PiggyGal15 wagon for the reasons already given by others.

[Plan B]

@ DeasVail: I've got a tremendously busy day at work, plus going out of town this weekend. Please mark me as V/LA until Sunday evening (EST). I may sneak in a post, or two, but not likely.

[N]

Mai top scum reads:
Piggy
Jacob
Nero

Good work having scum-reads on three of the biggest wagons.

[JacobSavage]

@Plan B, this was in responce to this post.

Theamateur, My top scum read was TF, but as of late I'm not so sure anymore. His response after my gambit was pretty solid and he handled it pretty well in my opinion. Even if my gambit wasn't the best. You say NC isnt scum? I want to know why you don't think so.

JS and NC were the last on my wagon, both with illegitimate reasons. If JS flips scum i'd say he slipped up and was trying to defend NC (which isn't really possible given his reasons for my vote) and or wagon with NC.

@MOD

Same thing, visiting family this weekend (I get to go to Cambridge and pretend I'm intelligent, whooo!) so wont be back until 6pm GMT on sunday

[Senjai]

Jacob, you are the last, along with Nero Cain, LEFT on my wagon right now. is what I meant. Will post more later.

[Senjai]

N from #146, I think scum-JS is more likely to defend a buddy. Scum-NC is more likely to buddy a town.

[N]

Is that from looking at their meta?

[Cletus+Brandine]

Mai top scum reads:
Piggy
Jacob
Nero

Good work having scum-reads on three of the biggest wagons.

1) i was the first one on the piggy wagon.

2) i wasn't aware nero had a wagon.

3) jacob has a clear connection to piggy, my biggest scum read.

4) do you disagree with my reads?

5) why aren't you voting anybody? Why do you think is scum?

[Cletus+Brandine]

Also, SNAP!!!!

[Senjai]

ObvScum #1 - JS
ObvScum #2 - NC

#148 seems suspect from Cletus, unless he can provide more analysis than he already has, he's simply trying to hop on a wagon.

Untrod thanks, but you should know in my transperancy I'll pick on everyone too. According to your posts here: Click me

Almost 100% of your posts are IIOA. This bothers me and leans towards a scum read. I'd like to see some analysis from you. What do you think of the JS wagon? What do you think of Plan B and Anxiety?

N is also suspect for the same reason. He has asked questions and I like that he is doing so. After all of his questions he has yet to provide any analysis or reads. Even though he promised to so here:

um, derp, yes you did answer it. What do you think of the last chainsaw accusation (by Toon Fighter)?

N, what's with the no vote? What do

you

think of the Senjai wagon?

I'm sorry >.< I have nothing left to say

Nothing at all? Senjai gave some reads, does this make him scum?

I would trim this down so I'm oink only replying to the but concerning me, but I'm on my phone.

Why do I need to have a vote down? And I'll wait until Sendai replies before I answer.

Anxiety and Theamateur. I'd like to here some additional analysis from the both of you as well.

Oh and adorkable is a slight scum read too. #138 is horrible and doesnt have any reasons behind it. Though he promises to sift through the 'longer posts' later. It seems possible he just hasnt had time to read the thread. Seeing as though he has so few posts. Without some concrete analysis from him I'll add him to my scumdar.

In short:

NC and JS are scum.
I'm worried about N, Untrod, and Cletus.
and I'd like to see more from anxieety and theamateur.

And of course, we must wait and see what is to become of Number Six.

[Senjai]

EBWOP: add Addorkable to the worried list and DoomYoshi to the want to see more list.

[Senjai]

Is that from looking at their meta?

No, I havent played with them before. Just an opinion. As I argued that JS's defence of NC's scumminess was scummy.

[JacobSavage]

You should look at my meta, it might be interesting to see the number of times i have been lynched because of defending another player as mafia..... >_> (hint its 0)

Im also still rather lost on what the case on me actually is, is it just that I defended NC?
Because I will always defend someone that I think is town, hell I defened anyone if Im bored enough.

[4nxi3ty]

anxiety: not much so far. want to see reasons for her vote, as he mentions addorkable zero times other than the vote

nah i like where my vote is--a small hop on a large wagon and has been quiet ever since.

adorkable can you go into more detail with your thoughts, other than 'this is bad'?

C+B, why are you trying to tie piggy to jacob before a flip?

[DoomYoshi]

Hey, I've got comapny over this weekend, so sorry about vanishing.

Some thoughts: Senjai reminds me a lot of myself (outspoken on many fundamental mafia ideas).

However, he is still wrong and I almost spurted coffee on myself when I read:

Dont pick at my nomenclature NC. You're just raging right now. I think the pressure is getting to you. Now your saying you are agressing me because of my join date, I'm totally LOVING YOUR AD HOMINEM ATTACKS. Makes you so reputable. Using join date as an excuse in argument = scummy, keep your red herring fallacies away from me.

Clearly, the pressure is getting to NC lol.

I am not so sold on nero scum (but I understand your case, just don't agree with it). Piggy and Jacob I can easily see though. If Jacob flips scum, I will consider more seriously nero (not saying that's a scum or town read, just that I will think about it more).

Nero, I also want to know your answer to Plan B's question to you. Are you referring to:

senjai looks more like naive town.

If so, I would bet money on the fact that 4nxi3ty can back this statement up in a way that makes sense.

Another point on JS:

4nxi3ty (Possibly Scum)
1. Late to Party, Misunderstanding RVS (#51)
2. Looking for someone to start a bandwagon(?) (#64)
3. Refusal to move vote, not that scummy (#88)

1. Waht? Da Fuq?
2. OMG
3. srsly?

Sorry, JS, but this is laughably horrendous. There are more problems but this is a trifecta of I can't understand how a goes to b.

Why are you still voting Senjai? He is practically oozing town at this point. He may be an amazing scum player, but we will cross that bridge when we get to it.

Theamateur's hop onto this wagon seems opportunistic (compared to the other 3, not compared to any particular standard).

[adorkable]

I'm not really caught up on the thread but I've been skimming and should have a post of my own sometime in the next 48 hours or so. The other head of the hydra (<3) is currently at work but I'll bug him to maybe clarify his thoughts sometime tonight.

This half of the hydra is essentially V/LA until 11/8, though.

I'm

still

wrapping up work on midterm projects until then. -_-

[Cletus+Brandine]

C+B, why are you trying to tie piggy to jacob before a flip?

He tied himself to piggy when he defended her for no reason.

[adorkable]

Oops, I should probably clarify, myself: I'm not the head that made our content post, but I'm gonna catch up on the thread soonishly.

[JacobSavage]

@C+B Is defending people the bondage of the mafiascum world.
@ Doom, first that was purely what I thought at the time. they're my notes if you have something different please share and we can discuss our difference of opinion.

Also the reason why my vote is on Senjai is the same reason that I've said every other time. there wasn't someone who I thought was defiantly town.
However now I have someone better to vote for
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Cleutus

for vague posts, hopping on bandwagon and not really doing much. probably new scum.

[Demon Core]

Jacob, is English your native language?

[Cletus+Brandine]

Jacob, what have i been vague about?

What bandwagon did i hop on? I voted one person so far and i was the first to do so.