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Post Post #725 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:13 am

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Plan for the most part should work. While I think both Tazaro and Greygnarl I'd prefer it if Greygnarl received the transfer funds over Tazaro.

Eidolon should full-claim. Do believe that she truly cannot 'invest/advertise' ect. but think that's more likely to be a scum role since the OP states scum can 'share abilities' meaning they might not need investing and transferring as much, either way don't see much harm in her claiming at this point.

Guiles suggestion and Eidolons backing up of giving funds to fewer players is a horrible idea. Focused money on a specific few players just increases the likelihood of a bunch of our funds going missing in one night if one of those players die. It's much better to spread it over 8ish or so players than having it on 3-4.
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Post Post #726 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:14 am

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In post 724, guille2015 wrote:
In post 709, MattP wrote:
In post 707, guille2015 wrote:
Since you planned this, I think you should not be in the receiving end of it.

Uhhh why?

If he were scum/sk planning this, he would make a killing.

Eeexcept I bought the RBing ability, you really think I would buy both SK and RB and you really really think I would be scum based off of my play (since I assume you've been reading)

I mean, your logic is piss poor, but I'm interested to hear more of it
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Post Post #727 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:16 am

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Mehdi can have money. They wanted to put him under probtown.

I will go after an item on the market.
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Post Post #728 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:16 am

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Yes, actually, I agree with GB, each player should transfer to one other player so that we don't lose funds.
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Post Post #729 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:20 am

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Fill this in slumber
Phil--->
Sean--->
Voided--->
Pitty--->
Guille--->
GreyICE--->
Elmo--->

WTF are we doing with Eidolon.
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Post Post #730 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:20 am

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I don't want money. I'm not dumb when it comes to set ups. I have my own idea. I've already said I won't bid (we do need agreement on who buys what and by the looks of it anyone transferring won't buy any powers).

I'm fine with money being transferred to grey. Tazaro is more meh (weak town read) but sure if desired. SDB what's your current read on greyice? I think he's another option for someone getting money.
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Post Post #731 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:22 am

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[quote="In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 2#p4449822]
Guiles suggestion and Eidolons backing up of giving funds to fewer players is a horrible idea. Focused money on a specific few players just increases the likelihood of a bunch of our funds going missing in one night if one of those players die. It's much better to spread it over 8ish or so players than having it on 3-4.[/quote]

that makes sense. i guess a balance is key. slumber's list was okay, though i dunno about peregrine.

and whatever.

i'll just claim to get it out of the way. i don't really care.

i'm the conspicious consumer. if any ability goes up for auction due to it being advertised, i get a free usage of that ability.
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Post Post #732 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:23 am

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Do you have money?
Can we confirm her by advertising for Governor?
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Post Post #733 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:24 am

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In post 731, Eidolon wrote:
i'm the conspicious consumer. if any ability goes up for auction due to it being advertised, i get a free usage of that ability.


except a night kill.
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Post Post #734 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:24 am

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Eid why did you not at least advertise if that's your ability? You could have advertised minimal and got an easy ability use since not many people fight over advertising.

Advertising for extra vote would also confirm her. Really any role power that has an effect shown in thread would work.
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Post Post #735 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:25 am

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Why would we give her Gov?
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Post Post #736 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:25 am

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In post 732, greygnarl wrote:Do you have money?
Can we confirm her by advertising for Governor?


yeah i have money. i dont get a wage though.
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Post Post #737 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:25 am

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nvm. Her scumbuddies can just use them since it's anonymous.
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Post Post #738 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:25 am

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In post 731, Eidolon wrote:i'm the conspicious consumer. if any ability goes up for auction due to it being advertised, i get a free usage of that ability.

That's what GreyICE claimed last game as the SK..
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Post Post #739 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:26 am

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In post 734, Mehdi2277 wrote:Eid why did you not at least advertise if that's your ability? You could have advertised minimal and got an easy ability use since not many people fight over advertising.

Advertising for extra vote would also confirm her. Really any role power that has an effect shown in thread would work.


i can't advertise, transfer or invest. only buy things, and use abilities that some else advertises.
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Post Post #740 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:26 am

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In post 725, Gentlemen Bastards wrote:Focused money on a specific few players just increases the likelihood of a bunch of our funds going missing in one night if one of those players die. It's much better to spread it over 8ish or so players than having it on 3-4.

It wasn't my suggestion, I just agreed to it. With the player to player plan yuo risk giving the money to scum, with less players you risk losing 2x money. That is risk on both plans. Both remove money from the most probable mafia.
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Post Post #741 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:27 am

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Composing finalized list. Please be patient. TY boys and girls.
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Post Post #742 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:27 am

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In post 738, Gentlemen Bastards wrote:
In post 731, Eidolon wrote:i'm the conspicious consumer. if any ability goes up for auction due to it being advertised, i get a free usage of that ability.

That's what GreyICE claimed last game as the SK..


okay
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Post Post #743 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:28 am

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SK role PM last game:

Outside the System: You
may not use the Invest action (see Section IV), and you may not spend money on Advertising
(see Section V).
The Fruits of Their Labor: If the Day has an auction from Advertising (see Section V),
you will receive one usage of that ability automatically
. You may still win that auction as normal.
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Post Post #744 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:28 am

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here is why it doesnt matter if we have 1 or 2 scum in our town list: the players getting money should have enough, hands down, to win their targeted items.

this means that they will be accountable for the item the win. they cannot win the nightkill and then use it how they please because everyone will know that they have it. so even if scum is on the receiving end here, they will have trouble fully exercising their ability to make use of it.

also we should be having only one transfer per town read so that in the event of a lie, there are only two possible spots to check, making a scum lie a 1 for 1 trade instead of a potential 1 for 2 trade.

i am also in favor of having greygnarl and mehdi on the recipient lists.
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Post Post #745 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:31 am

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In post 743, Gentlemen Bastards wrote:
SK role PM last game:

Outside the System: You
may not use the Invest action (see Section IV), and you may not spend money on Advertising
(see Section V).
The Fruits of Their Labor: If the Day has an auction from Advertising (see Section V),
you will receive one usage of that ability automatically
. You may still win that auction as normal.


do you really expect it to be exactly the same as last game?

that would be quite dull. i bet the mod really want the town to outguess him... :roll:
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Post Post #746 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:32 am

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In post 710, guille2015 wrote:Giving multiple transfer to the same person should reduce the chances of Hitting scum, thus reducing flaw #1.


Unfortunately, with the transfers public knowledge, consolidating the transfers makes the single person at higher risk for scum targeting.
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Post Post #747 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:33 am

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SK had no wage last game as well. And yes, I think it's very plausible he's used a similar role for the SK this game as last given that there's no other real way to do anything with a SK in a game that has its only night kill in auctions.

Eidolon dies wayyy before lylo. If not sooner. Not losing to a SK again.
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Post Post #748 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:36 am

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why not first make the list of who goes for what item? and then make sure that each person on that list is getting money from someone else.

but yeah it should only be one - one trades.
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Post Post #749 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:36 am

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In post 726, SlumberPartyBois wrote:
In post 724, guille2015 wrote:
In post 709, MattP wrote:
In post 707, guille2015 wrote:
Since you planned this, I think you should not be in the receiving end of it.

Uhhh why?

If he were scum/sk planning this, he would make a killing.

Eeexcept I bought the RBing ability, you really think I would buy both SK and RB and you really really think I would be scum based off of my play (since I assume you've been reading)

I mean, your logic is piss poor, but I'm interested to hear more of it

By Sk I think you Mean NK. Anyways, you could have bought anything and it would not have mattered to your allignment. However, I do think you are town though, mostly because I like this plan. I am just covering my bases because I have been mistaken on my town reads. It's a fail safe.

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