Mini 373: DOOMsville - Ruined Beyond Repair

[bird1111]

Is that a cop claim?

[Jack]

I think so.

unvote

[Boo]

so who did you investigate?

[Mert]

Unvote

. No reason not to believe him, though I think his claim might have been slightly premature.

[bird1111]

Unvote

in case that was a claim,

Vote Slaking_Master

for reasons specified earlier; though I still would like a contribution from Sailor Jerry of some sort

And Jerry couldn't have investigated; we started with day

[Boo]

i will continue to be skeptical until I see an investigation result. if it is a scum player, we lynch that player. if it isnt, the investigatee needs to confirm the result, unless it happens to be the doc or something important that needs to remain secret.

[bird1111]

Like I said, we started with day, Jerry couldn't have investigated

[Boo]

ah.
nevermind then ^_^

[Eon]

unvote

=[

[Romanus]

Instead, you had me, who had no particular insight into the game, and preferred not to draw attention to himself Day 1.

And a fine job you did.

[Eon]

yeah, Wacky's actions are a pretty good backing for a day 1 vote,

Vote:Wacky

I think i know who to vote against, SM was 5th person to put vote on Wacky. For some reason i think he helf for that situation to vote against Wacky.

vote: Slaking_Master

[Nightfall]

Unvote: Jerry

We didnt expect words of wisdom, just something that looked more protown than non caring scum.

FOS : Mert[/b}
Has joined all 3 close to lynch bandwagons as the last person on, forcing two of three to claim. Not sure if its more scummy than cautious but it's the best I got right now.

[Mert]

Whoa there, brodeo. Did you honestly think that such a heinous misrepresentation of the facts would go uncontested?

Let's have a quick look at the wagons to date.

Wagon 1: bird1111

1. Sailor Jerry (random vote) [22]
2. Nightfall ("Why? I dunno... He'll likely give me reason soon enough...") [25]
3. Romanus ("There's just something about a wagon") [26]
4. Boo ("bandwagon yay") [42]

Wagon 2: Boo

1. Mert (random vote) [21]
2. Jack ("bandwagon yay") [43]
3. Eon ("bandwagon is indeed interesting") [50]
4. bird1111 ("How am I clearly scum?") [52]

Mert unvotes [65]

5. Wacky ("The other two wagons just don't look too appealing to me") [75]

Wagon 3: Wacky

1. HackerHuck ("for acting rather wacky") [77]
2. Lowell ("I'm not clear why he "has to choose a wagon."") [83]
3. Boo ("i like huck's logic") [85]
4. slaking_master ("Wacky's actions are a pretty good backing for a day 1 vote") [86]
5. bird1111 ("after seeing what Hacker has said about Wacky, he seems like a better lynch than Boo") [89]

Wacky claims vanilla without being directly asked to claim [94]

Wagon 4: Sailor Jerry

1. Lowell ("SJ is all sorts of lurking in plain sight.") [112]
2. bird1111 ("He hasn't contributed anything really") [114]
3. Mert ("If he is actively lurking then he needs a little more pressure") [116]
4. Jack ("4 votes should be enough pressure") [117]
5. Eon ("He didnt reply, well fine be me") [120]

Sailor Jerry claims cop without being directly asked to claim [124]

And now a quick look at what you posted:

FOS : Mert

Has joined all 3 close to lynch bandwagons as the last person on, forcing two of three to claim. Not sure if its more scummy than cautious but it's the best I got right now.

- I've only been on two wagons so far and one was in the form of a random vote. I didn't move it, true, but I didn't jump on late either.
- I've never been the last person on a wagon.
- I never asked either of our claimants to claim, nor did I add a pressure vote at the end to imply that they should.
- If the best you have is some blatantly made up lies then you're in a lot of trouble.

You may get my vote in a second, but before I decide whether or not to do so, please explain why you posted what you did when it's a clear misrepresentation of the facts.

[Eon]

Is it me or i see Bird in all Wagons, nice post btw.

FOS: BIRDY

[bird1111]

All wagons but myself yes; but I had reasoning for all but Wacky

[Mert]

All wagons but myself yes; but I had reasoning for all but Wacky

Maybe you did (though I don't recall an explicit reason for the Boowagon, particularly) but are you saying that you put a fifth vote (lynch -2) on Wacky with no reason at all?

FoS: Bird1111

[Sailor Jerry]

Eon... you seem to be throwing a fair amount of mud around for someone who's made a lot of pointless posts himself.

Any good reason why?

unvote, vote: Eon

[Nightfall]

Mert, you wern't on Bird's or wacky's (Who I forgot about when I made the last post) but you were on the other three. With my wagon and Jerry's you voted near the very end of the wagons, and for Boo's you did unvote, but you also revoted for him just shortly before the majority of people started looking towards Jerry. It just jumped out at me that you seemed to like to vote along with the largest bandwagon at the time.
I did completely overlook Wacky's wagon though, so I apoligize for that one.

[Jack]

Vote:Lowell

He voted for Sailor Jerry giving the reason "SJ is all sorts of lurking in plain sight." despite the fact that Lowell himself had only made one real post in the thread and therefore is suspicious under his own logic.

[Mert]

Mert, you wern't on Bird's or wacky's (Who I forgot about when I made the last post) but you were on the other three. With my wagon and Jerry's you voted near the very end of the wagons, and for Boo's you did unvote, but you also revoted for him just shortly before the majority of people started looking towards Jerry. It just jumped out at me that you seemed to like to vote along with the largest bandwagon at the time.
I did completely overlook Wacky's wagon though, so I apoligize for that one.

But your post cited "close to lynch" bandwagons. Yours doesn't count as such, in my mind as it only totalled three votes. For completeness, however, I will post it as I did above:

Wagon Alpha: Nightfall

1. Lowell (random vote) [30]
2. Romanus ("someone actually tried to push this wagon") [48]
3. Mert ("By asking for clarification and, by association, asserting that his OMGUS vote could be suspicious, you are advocating the wagon on Bird") [65]

Before I voted for you in Post 65, the votecount was as follows:

4 - Boo (Mert, Jack, Eon, bird1111)
3 - bird1111 (Sailor Jerry, Nightfall, Boo)
2 - Nightfall (Lowell, Romanus)
1 - Lowell (slaking_master)
1 - Romanus (Wacky)
1 - Jack (HackerHuck)

So if I am going after the largest wagon at the time, would it not make more sense for me to have stuck with my vote on Boo? You missed the point of Romanus' posts a few times and so I voted for you because it looked like you were trying to dodge the assertion.

I did vote for Boo again in Post 106 because he appeared to be advocating a quick lynch on Wacky before people had looked into the vanilla claim.

Besides, you said I was

the last person on "3 close to lynch bandwagons"

. I was the last on one, which was yours and that wasn't a "close to lynch" wagon.

I think it's safe to say that the Birdwagon was the most ridiculous of all the wagons as it was just a bunch of "random" votes strung together very quickly. You were the first player in this game to add a second vote (and therefore start a wagon) and yet you're absense from every serious wagon is noteworthy.

Also, something which I hadn't noticed before. You FoSed Sailor Jerry but didn't vote. When everyone started unvoting following his claim, you also posted an unvote, despite the fact you weren't voting for anyone. It looks to me like you could well be trying to blend in with everyone without putting forward any real suspicion and without leaving a vote trail for people to pick up on or read into.

[Nightfall]

When I typed unvote I seriously thought I had also voted Jerry. Sorry I didn't mean to misslead anyone there. To show later on that I was serious with my suspicions on Jerry, please consider my fos on him as a vote.

[Eon]

Eon... you seem to be throwing a fair amount of mud around for someone who's made a lot of pointless posts himself.

Any good reason why?

unvote, vote: Eon

Mr. Cop, all my actions have reasons unlike some other people i dont jump in any Wagon. I dont throw mud actually, and i dont think my posts were so pointless. So you should believe me on this one =]

Right now i might change my fos on Lowell, because Birdy seems honest to me. He didnt think up random reasons to reply to me.

UNFOS

: Birdy

[Boo]

fos lowell

1. Lowell ("SJ is all sorts of lurking in plain sight.") [112]

he seems to jump in and make accusations, then dissapear when everyone starts talking about said accusations.

[Sailor Jerry]

Mr. Cop,

I like this. We should keep this.

all my actions have reasons unlike some other people i dont jump in any Wagon.

Which is why you put me at lynch -2 without any evidence whatsoever?

I dont throw mud actually,

You do.

and i dont think my posts were so pointless.

I do.

So you should believe me on this one =]

I don't.

What I like the least about your posts is the way you threatened to form a bandwagon on me, just to see if it was a goer before diving on it - and now it seems you're trying to do the same to Lowell.

[Eon]

I was the one who dragged attention on you Mister.

I agree with nightfall and eon. SJ is all sorts of lurking in plain sight.

UNVOTE, Vote SailorJerry

Incidentally, these wagons are taking off and dying out fast. That worries me. I'm going to do a reread and see who is to blame for that.

And mud, give us some example of mud. Listen if you dont believe me check me at night and i promise you will get good result.