skimmer - I already explained why I claimed - I was being run up. I don;t understand what MORE you think there is. that's all there is to it. If that doesn't satisfy you, then continue to vote me off, and you can pat yourself on the back during the night for getting a pro-town player lynched. I can;t respond any more then I already have.mathcam wrote:This is laughable. How are those two things even related? I very much give a shit why you claimed, and am voting you "regardless" until then. This is why I, and others, have been asking you to explain yourself for the last dozen posts. And yes, until then, you have earned my vote. It would be senseless for me to wait for you to explain yourself until voting, because it is evident just how very long that could take. At this point, you've stalled so long that it would take a pretty miraculous explanation to earn an unvote, but nevertheless, I'm all ears.BabyJesus wrote: So - basically you don;t give a shit "why" I claimed and are going to vote me regardless.
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andBabyJesus wrote:it's not a defense. It was a claim.
So even you didn't think you were claiming in order to prevent a lynch. So your argument that you claimed because you were being run up makes no sense. The question is not simply "Why did you claim," any more. It's closer to "Given that they would be equally effective strategies in preventing your lynch and that you've said that you knew it, why did you claim instead of, say, dancing around while wearing a funny hat?" Because I'd be happy to institute a "standard practice" of dancing around while wearing a funny hat if I'm being run up, but given that I wouldn't expect it to help things any, I probably won't.BabyJesus wrote:Please bump where I ever said you should not vote for me because I am a mason.
wow...I think I have my play for tomorrow...just...wow...TheCesspit wrote:No content.BabyJesus wrote:No, it isn't.Mastermind of Sin wrote: your voting pattern is highly suspect
You see it's posts like that make me want to return my vote on BJ. Your voting pattern is poor, and there is a case to answer. Your dismissal of it as beneath you make you look unhelpful. Unhelpful players are scum, wether it says so in their role description or not.
My original vote on BabyJesus was about lack of content and vote hopping. This may well be standard play, but play I don't like. he's then go on to start posting and providing some info. While it's not the mostest helpfulish ever, Harry Potter's voting looks worse.
I'd say more pressure on BJ tomorrow is the correct play, while HP today is the lynch.
Your mileage may vary.
TheCesspit wrote:Baby Jesus accusation only holds water if Harry is scum. In fact, that sort of comment is setting up an argument for a later claim that mathcam (or anyone else deflecting) is scum as well.
Pretty happy with either BJ or Harry Potter as the lynch now, as it provides information on a fair few people's motives.
wow...I think I have my play for tomorrow...just...wow...I don't even know where to start with this...O.OTheCesspit wrote:No content.BabyJesus wrote:No, it isn't.Mastermind of Sin wrote: your voting pattern is highly suspect
You see it's posts like that make me want to return my vote on BJ. Your voting pattern is poor, and there is a case to answer. Your dismissal of it as beneath you make you look unhelpful. Unhelpful players are scum, wether it says so in their role description or not.
My original vote on BabyJesus was about lack of content and vote hopping. This may well be standard play, but play I don't like. he's then go on to start posting and providing some info. While it's not the mostest helpfulish ever, Harry Potter's voting looks worse.
I'd say more pressure on BJ tomorrow is the correct play, while HP today is the lynch.
Your mileage may vary.
Fuldu wrote:That speaks more to my question than it does to mathcam's, so I'll respond. What more there is is that normally one claims when one is being run up in order to deter people from voting you. As a full mason in a normal game, this would be a reasonable strategy. But, as has been noted several times, it doesn't mean anything in this game. And you yourself said:
andBabyJesus wrote:it's not a defense. It was a claim.
So even you didn't think you were claiming in order to prevent a lynch. So your argument that you claimed because you were being run up makes no sense. The question is not simply "Why did you claim," any more. It's closer to "Given that they would be equally effective strategies in preventing your lynch and that you've said that you knew it, why did you claim instead of, say, dancing around while wearing a funny hat?" Because I'd be happy to institute a "standard practice" of dancing around while wearing a funny hat if I'm being run up, but given that I wouldn't expect it to help things any, I probably won't.BabyJesus wrote:Please bump where I ever said you should not vote for me because I am a mason.
And, speaking for mathcam, since I think I understand what he's getting at now, your outing of ibaesha as your co-mason is equally incoherent as a strategy. Having done so doesn't, that I can see or that you've explained (or even acknowledged the question), serve town interests in any way. Normally when a player claims mason, they keep the identity of their partner secret. You haven't yet attempted to respond to questions about why you didn't.
which is interesting, especially since BJ hadn't put up an even remotely decent defense yet...I also want to know why TheCesspit thinks Ibby soundsTheCesspit wrote:Oops, it was silent speaker.
Unvote: BabyJesus
Vote: Harry Potter
I half like BJ's defence, and I was originally voting for lack of content. I admonish both the Masons for not talking as even not knowing the alignment, I'm sure you could help each other, or while away the nights with some info passing.
I don't like Harry Potter's vote on BJ, along with the rest of his play.
I have some concerns on ibashea's pursuit onto BJ, as there's a little bit of desperation sounding in their posts. However, it has got BJ posting.
Huh? First of all, if you read my last post, you'll note that I take issue with your statement that you have actually fully claimed. You've only revealed one facet of your role. Second,BabyJesus wrote: skimmer - I already explained why I claimed - I was being run up. I don;t understand what MORE you think there is. that's all there is to it. If that doesn't satisfy you, then continue to vote me off, and you can pat yourself on the back during the night for getting a pro-town player lynched. I can;t respond any more then I already have.
If your only reason was that you were being run up, why would you put the quotes around "why"?BJ wrote:So - basically you don;t give a shit "why" I claimed and are going to vote me regardless.
Thanks goodness! If you've finally come up with a good defense, you should post it in the thread and not just keep it to yourself.BabyJesus wrote:Yes I have.Mastermind of Sin wrote: which is interesting, especially since BJ hadn't put up an even remotely decent defense yet...I also want to know why TheCesspit thinks Ibby soundsdesparate?
I do too. Desperation is not something I've been feeling so I'm unsure how it would've been conveyed. I will admit to being fairly confused about the game, in fact:MoS wrote: I also want to know why TheCesspit thinks Ibby sounds desparate?
Is very much how I've been feeling.mathcam restating Spamwise wrote:This game hurts my head. I'll refrain from vouching things about this game when I don't really understand how it all -- namely offices, role, and motives -- fit together.
I've already explained this on my part. Although BJ's continued avoidance of bringing forward a suitable defense is making me unsure of that decision. I'm starting to think that his behavior is going to carry onward to night and that I'll be wasting my time and effort. (Which is exactly why I didn't bother to PM him last night)mathcam wrote:More productively...Could someone not voting for BJ (other than BJ, of course) please explain why?
Well, that's kind of a wierd question. So, why should we lynch BJ today, exactally? The role-claim thing was wierd, and I think he made a mistake naming his "mason partner", but otherwise I would expect most people with any kind of night ability at all to claim before being lynched this game; it might help you not get lynched, and even if not it might be useful for other reasons to claim before being lynched, like if at least some of those room switchers are pro-town.mathcam wrote: More productively...Could someone not voting for BJ (other than BJ, of course) please explain why?
I just double checked my PM. It says I am pro-town.mathcam wrote:Thanks goodness! If you've finally come up with a good defense, you should post it in the thread and not just keep it to yourself.BabyJesus wrote:Yes I have.Mastermind of Sin wrote: which is interesting, especially since BJ hadn't put up an even remotely decent defense yet...I also want to know why TheCesspit thinks Ibby soundsdesparate?
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WTF are you talking about? I only HAVE one facet to my role. There's nothing else to my role other then what I have said. Are you on crack or something? Do some people here have roles independent of their office? If so, I did not get one.mathcam wrote:Huh? First of all, if you read my last post, you'll note that I take issue with your statement that you have actually fully claimed. You've only revealed one facet of your role.BabyJesus wrote: skimmer - I already explained why I claimed - I was being run up. I don;t understand what MORE you think there is. that's all there is to it. If that doesn't satisfy you, then continue to vote me off, and you can pat yourself on the back during the night for getting a pro-town player lynched. I can;t respond any more then I already have.
WTF are you talking about? I only HAVE one facet to my role. There's nothing else to my role other then what I have said. Are you on crack or something? Do some people here have roles independent of their office? If so, I did not get one.mathcam wrote:Huh? First of all, if you read my last post, you'll note that I take issue with your statement that you have actually fully claimed. You've only revealed one facet of your role.BabyJesus wrote: skimmer - I already explained why I claimed - I was being run up. I don;t understand what MORE you think there is. that's all there is to it. If that doesn't satisfy you, then continue to vote me off, and you can pat yourself on the back during the night for getting a pro-town player lynched. I can;t respond any more then I already have.
BabyJesus wrote:I just double checked my PM. It says I am pro-town.mathcam wrote:Thanks goodness! If you've finally come up with a good defense, you should post it in the thread and not just keep it to yourself.BabyJesus wrote:Yes I have.Mastermind of Sin wrote: which is interesting, especially since BJ hadn't put up an even remotely decent defense yet...I also want to know why TheCesspit thinks Ibby soundsdesparate?
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I don't like the certitude of these statements.TheCesspit wrote:this comment makes me sure BabyJesus is a lying liar scum.
Yes, I've voted between HP and BJ. Why, because I think both are scum, but can't work out which is the scummier. I think BJ is trying to throw his scum partner under the bus for a later attack.
TheCesspit wrote:BabyJesus wrote:I just double checked my PM. It says I am pro-town.mathcam wrote:Thanks goodness! If you've finally come up with a good defense, you should post it in the thread and not just keep it to yourself.BabyJesus wrote:Yes I have.Mastermind of Sin wrote: which is interesting, especially since BJ hadn't put up an even remotely decent defense yet...I also want to know why TheCesspit thinks Ibby soundsdesparate?
CamUnvote: Harry Potter
Vote: BabyJesus
Ignoring MoS's comment (I'll come back to it later), this comment makes me sure BabyJesus is a lying liar scum.
I think isn't particularly certitude. It's my opinion of whats going on. Fates amenable to change.MrBuddyLee wrote:I don't like the certitude of these statements.TheCesspit wrote:this comment makes me sure BabyJesus is a lying liar scum.
Yes, I've voted between HP and BJ. Why, because I think both are scum, but can't work out which is the scummier. I think BJ is trying to throw his scum partner under the bus for a later attack.
