WoT Mafia, GAME OVER

[Anonymities]

Thats 6 for lowell unless I am mistaken.

[petroleumjelly]

Well, that was some rousing discussion. With any luck, we just caught ourselves some scum.

Spamwise, if you'd like to make a case for why I shouldn't Vig you tonight, now's a good time.

[Lowell]

Hmm, well, can't say I ever really got my feet on the ground in this game. So it goes.

[Fritzler]

Unvote, Vote: Lowell

you don't throw the hammah very well

[Gleeman]

that is indeed the 6, congrats town, you lynched A'Lan Mandragoran, lord of the 7 towers. (thats Lan for short Douchebags)
Night Falls, thursday night 8 PM GMT deadline.

[Gleeman]

Dawn breaks to find Spamwise dead, smothered with the power aparently.
Dead:
Spamwise - Elaida Sedai

With 9 living its 5 to lynch

[petroleumjelly]

Gah.

Night results from MMoD and MBL?

Target for M-M, and confirmation from target?

[Ghyrt]

Just for the record: The dragon caused me to kill Spamwise.

[petroleumjelly]

Blood and bloody ashes!

Start posting people. First person to post besides Ghyrt or myself won't be lynched* Go, go, go!





* This could, in fact, be a lie

[Tamuz]

I hate to say this
But with the game continuing without bliss
Could something with PJ and Ghyrt be amiss

I don't know why we aren't done
but this can't be too much fun
We are searching and searching for what scum?

As the town we allow ourselves to die
On the name claim of a couple of guys
But remember in WoT Rand's mind seems to fly.

Now I don't advocate a lynch of the two
But I urge some paranoia to all of you
We have been blindly playing attrition through

Results are weak
And the town is way too meek
So unless we get something solid this may look bleak.

Regardless, lets look at the list
To find at who we should shake our fist.
Oh right, what about lordy, did he exist?

[petroleumjelly]

*rubs temples*

1.) I claimed Rand Al'Thor, the Dragon Reborn (the protagonist of the entire series), on Day Five, long before pretty much everybody else still alive claimed. So either I

am

Rand Al'Thor (which I am), or I am (seemingly) the only scum given a safe claim. If you believe I am Rand Al'Thor,

how

does me being scum fit

at all

flavor-wise in this game? Every scum has been

evil

. Rand Al'Thor is

good

.

2.) I have helped and directed in all least five scum lynches: Karn1 (Forsaken), Mariyta (Dark Friend?), ChannelDelibird (Dark Friend), Yosarian2 (Black Ajah), and Skylink (Forsaken). I have also nightkilled Logicticus (Forsaken). Pretty damned good aim, for somebody who receives no night information.

3.) I tried to kill Broomhead on Night Two, and this has been

verified

by Mystery Meat of Doom. If you think I am scum with Broomhead/Ghyrt, then

why would I try to nightkill him?

4.) Based on MMoD's information, I was able to tell the town that Ghyrt was my Ashaman before Ghyrt ever claimed: this was also verified by Ghyrt. Ghyrt has also verified that it is the

Dragon

who is in charge of his actions, and not another person.

5.) Ghyrt has been investigated innocent by MrBuddyLee, and we know that MBL is neither Insane nor Naive nor Paranoid from his given investigations. What you say implies that Ghyrt must have investigative immunity.

6.) Pooky (Moraine Sedai) found me on Night Two of the game, as this parallels her role in the books. I'm pretty sure if she could find anybody, it would only be Lan or Rand Al'Thor.

7.) The fact that

I

do not do the killing, but

Ghyrt

does, has been proven, due to the fact that there has been at least one night where I was Doctored/Role-Blocked, and yet our kill still went through.

8.) This would seriously have to be just about the craziest fricking gambit

ever

. You know what this argument reminds me of? That Verbose II game, where me and my Mason partners were accused of setting up a Mason claim since Day One in a 20-person game. There is always room for paranoia, but what you suggest is simply irrational. Don't turn into another Werebear (no offense meant to Werebear, but just his irrational paranoia in that particular game).

[Tamuz]

True, I know it sounds wrong
But in this my mind is gone
I have though long over this incomprehensible song.

I don't really suggest you are scum
but of any other idea I have not some
So I have to think of the abnormal, despite looking dumb.

[Fritzler]

hi

[Illumina]

It doesn't look like any balefire happened, unless there's someone I'm not thinking of... Odd.

[petroleumjelly]

Well, I just remembered that MBL is probably still at Burning Man, so he won't be able to post until he comes back. Here's my list (yours does not have to be identical to mine, obviously):

Pro-Town

PetroleumJelly

Almost Assuredly Pro-Town

Ghyrt* (See below)
MrBuddyLee (I believe the claim 99%)
Anonymities (I believe the claim 99%)
Mystery Meat of Doom (I believe the claim 99%)
Fritzler (Unless Lordy does not come up Elayne, another claim I believe 99%)

Contingently Pro-Town

Tamuz (Only based on Innocent Investigation)
Illumina (Waiting on MBL's result)
Machiavellian-Mafia (Only based on Innocent Investigation)

Note that if Illumina comes back with an innocent investigation, I will move her up to Pro-Town slot. A scum mason with investigative immunity is

bastard-modding

, so we had better not be dealing with something like that, plain and simple.

*Note: And in fact, I have noticed something a little bit odd about the night-kills. On the night where my kill was refused when I tried to kill Broomhead (Night Two), The Silent Speaker vanished. On the night where I no-killed (Night Six), Lordy vanished. Those are the only two instances in the game where balefire (if it was balefire) was used, and they are also the only two nights where my kill either refused or was purposely not used.

Ghyrt: Do you any other abilities that we do not know about? And if so, why didn't you mention them earlier?

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

I targetted nobody last night, so no one was collared.

I'm waiting for MBL and MMoD as well before moving on.

[petroleumjelly]

Let's make sure everybody has a reason to post in the thread, then... question time!

Mystery Meat of Doom

: Would you please give

all

of your rumor results for each night, whether or not you think they are relevant to the game?

Fritzler

: Did you and Lordy ever talk at night? Also, who is the play today?

MrBuddyLee

: Firstly, results. Secondly, how was Burning Man?

Machiavellian-Mafia

: Why didn't you collar anybody last night, when you could have tested if somebody was telling the truth about being a female channeler? We have had four dead Forsaken, and only three dead Black Ajah, which implies there may be a fourth Black Ajah (and hence that somebody's claim here may be false).

Anonymities

: Can you give a full list of who you have protected/role-blocked each night? It may help explain the recent paucity in kills.

Illumina

: What have you and Machiavellian-Mafia talked about each night since your collaring?

Ghyrt

: Do you any other abilities that we do not know about? And if so, why didn't you mention them earlier?

Tamuz

: Do you find it strange that you are the only person with a post restriction in the entire game? Also, could you go into detail about what you have been told to do each night, and explain how and when you get your 'information'?

[Fritzler]

Fritzler

: Did you and Lordy ever talk at night? Also, who is the play today?

No.

We uhh made fun of people.

I don't know.

I want you all dead.

[mystery meat of doom]

I gotta take a raincheck until tonight. It's frosh week at university and everyday is filled, and I don't have time right now to search up all my PMs, just a heads up. I'll be on tonight to post it all.

[MrBuddyLee]

Hey guys, I sent in a PM right before I left asking Gleeman to have me investigate Illumina once night fell, but when I got back there was no reply. It looks like the message got sent, so I'll PM and see what's up.

[Fritzler]

I gotta take a raincheck until tonight. It's frosh week at university and everyday is filled, and I don't have time right now to search up all my PMs, just a heads up. I'll be on tonight to post it all.

don't say frosh unless you want your ass kicked

[mystery meat of doom]

I can either get info about the setup, or info about the night before. I get this because I play the great game (?).
Night 1 choice - neutrals which can be won to shadow.
Night 2 choice - can protect, stop and control channeling
Night 3 choice - night before: TSS vanished, player ordered to kill oneself (refused)
Night 4 choice - night before: BJ collared before he was killed, someone was found, which I don't like, but is good
Night 5 choice - there are ones who can communicate, though unknown to them some can't be trusted.
Night 6 choice - night before: MBL did not catch anyone, Illumina collared
Night 7 choice - night before: not much hostile intent (I'm guessing nobody sent in night kill choice)

What do you have against that word?

[petroleumjelly]

Awesome. Yeah, Thom Merrelin plays in the "Game of Thrones" (or whatever it's called), and through doing so, hears lots of rumors. I still believe your claim 99%, I was just hoping we might have been able to glean more information from what you have been told.

And I am

seriously

considering the possibility that Ghyrt is scum. He would basically be unviggable (since I cannot kill him), and of course, I would essentially be neutering myself by having him lynched (since that would take away my Vigilante power). I've been wondering how this set-up could be balanced, and I think that would make a rather good explanation.

The fact that Mariyta was

also

technically an Ashaman and yet claimed to have killed Mr. Flay (which I think is false: Mr. Flay was "black and swollen", and after Mariyta was lynched, there was a death the very next night which was "swollen and bloated") on the night where my kill

did not go through

(because Broomhead refused to kill himself) on the same night where TSS

disappeared

is really clicking. Not to mention the fact that the only other night where I did not kill, Lordy disappeared, and those are the only two nights with disappearances is making me think Broomhead/Mariyta could kill use balefare on somebody

so long as

I did not direct them to kill somebody else or themselves.

FoS: Ghyrt

. What do other people think about my theory? I'm wondering if Broomhead/Ghyrt was a "neutral" character up until Night Two (when MBL investigated him), and was turned scum sometime afterwards.

[mystery meat of doom]

Is there someone who could possibly turn him that's been killed/claimed?

[Ghyrt]

I have no active night abilities. I am the dragon's servant. I win with the town. I'm sorry I haven't been much help. I wouldn't be surprised if the dragon were scum.