MeMeMeet Mafia (Game Over!)

[mith]

Vote Count:

9 to lynch.

Thesp: 1 (MeMe)
Yosarian2: 1 (Thesp)

[Atticus]

Isn't Yosarian2 dead, Thesp? This game is too confusing to me. I can't figure out who's dying.

[kristocker]

My car is nice...I want to take it! :pouts:

Hey Thesp, read the night scene. You voted for a dead guy - a dead guy whose claim yesterday was confirmed upon his death.

MAJOR FOS: Thesp.

[MeMe]

Yep.

I can't see Thesp both misinterpreting role information yesterday AND missing the fact that his votee died overnight; he's just not that sloppy.

[Dirge]

Vote: Thesp

I suspected that he was lying yesterday and yosarians death only makes me more sure.



BTW, if you weren't at MeMe Meet you probably don't know this but, nobody rode in the rental, ever. I think this is a trick.

[Thesp]

Unvote.

I didn't notice that Yosarian2 got killed, I got confused with the role names.

I will have to re-read to re-assess.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Vote Count:

9 to lynch.

Thesp: 1 (MeMe)
Yosarian2: 1 (Thesp)

Why was Thesp allowed to vote for a dead person? O.O

Interesting that both people killed were off of Fletcher's wagon. That being said, I'm pretty sure that at least one of the killers was someone NOT on his wagon, since the safer play would be to leave people on the wagon alive so there are more suspects, since some of the scum were surely on his wagon.

Player - # of posts - Person they were voting at day end
Atticus - 30 - Fletcher
Dirge - 14 - Thesp
Fishbulb - 11 - Fletcher
Fritzler - 18 (surprisingly) - Fletcher
Ibaesha - 8 - Atticus
Jeep - 7 (vacation time, though) - Fletcher
Kristoker - 9 - Fletcher
Mastermind of Sin - 13 - Fletcher
Maverick - 3 - No one
MeMe - 24 - PookyTheMagicalBear
mlaker - 16 - Fletcher
Mr_Gnome_It_All - 7 - spork76
PookyTheMagicalBear - 11 - Fletcher
Quagmire - 7 - Fritzler
spork76 - 13 - No one
Thesp - 23 - Yosarian2

Only 7 alive were not voting Fletcher, and I believe spork and Thesp's claims. That leave us with Dirge, Ibaesha, Maverick, MeMe, and Mr_Gnome_It_All. I have a relatively good feeling about MeMe right now, and Maverick hasn't posted enough for me to get a read on him.

Therefore, I'll

FoS: Maverick

for being a huge lurker, but the person I have the worst gut feeling about right now is Dirge, so I'll

vote: Dirge

and go from there. Ibaesha, MGIA:

IGMEOY

[Mr_Gnome_It_All]

I kinda had a feeling someone was going to have Jimmy Hoffa as a role.

Right now Thesp does seem the most scummy, due to the whole thing with Spork and Yosarian yesterday. Though accidentally voting for Yosarian now I can understand. It also took

me

a while to realize who was really dead.

[Quagmire]

Personally, I'm wary of Thesp's guilt. Thesp is too good and too experienced of a player to completely screw up the claim and counterclaim thing on DAY ONE when he's trying to kill one person. Honestly, I think it's some crazy role that mith put in that creates conflicts between the two. I just can't see any mafioso drawing so much attention to himself day one and know that one of them's going to be tested for guilt, and when one comes up innocent...

I just don't see Thesp screwing it up like that.

My suspicions yesterday point right to Fritz.

VOTE FRITZLER

[Quagmire]

^^^^^^^

1000th post. I'm officially cool!

[Mastermind of Sin]

One question I would like answered by all those who are voicing suspicion of Thesp. What reason could he possibly have to act this way as scum? And don't give me any wifom crap, either. I want a solid answer as to why scum would act this way, not a copout that redirects the question back on me.

[MeMe]

I think that challenge is impossible, MoS. I'm supposed to come up with a reason for his behavior if he's scum but I'm not allowed to ask you for a reason he'd act like this if town? The fact is that the behavior's scummy and

you're

utilizing WIFOM if you interpret it as anything but.

Have you

ever

seen Thesp miss this much? And, no offense to Gnome or Atticus, but I consider Thesp a more thorough player than both of them.

His behavior yesterday (refusal to consider a different interpretation of "activated," not seeing a problem with lynching a claimed investigator who'd been confirmed by another player) along with his "oh, I didn't realize he was dead" thing today (a ploy I've, by the way,

only

used as scum), is just too much to ignore. Thesp placing a vote without taking time to consider the night evidence? I mean,

really

. The name "Yosarian 2" showed up in the night scene -- I'm having a hard time believing that he didn't read it a couple of times and/or check the player roster in the first post to be sure he understood who was down before continuing a campaign against the guy.

I'm certainly listening if he wants to talk me out of it, though.

[Fritzler]

thesp is missing so much i think it has to hbe role based, if he was scum he'd bestupid to do this, and thesp is pretty smart

Vote: Quag

[Mastermind of Sin]

The only reason I made the stipulation that you couldn't make that sort of statement is that so often I get into arguments like this, and the only defense is to turn around and ask the same question back. If you can't think of a reason for someone to do something as scum, and you can't think of a reason for someone to do the same thing as town, that doesn't automatically make them scum. I just wanted to avoid a lot of posts playing ring-around-the-rosy until we all fell down without accomplishing anything. That said, I'd like to hear from Dirge if he has anything to add, since he seems to be the other main proponent against Thesp.

[Thesp]

spork76 is pretty much confirmed.

I do think it odd that my vote for Yosarian2 was still counted. If there was anyone we'd need to lynch again, it'd probably be Yoko Kurama (Jimmy Hoffa).

As much as I like the Fritzler wagon, I don't get it. I like the Atticus vote much better.

Vote: Atticus.

[Atticus]

Well, Thesp, want to explain why?

And Yosarian, are you still alive?

[Fishbulb]

Whoo! Everyone in my car. It has plenty of room, seriously.

At this point, my biggest gut feeling is on Mastermind of Sin. And I'm not joking this time. I tend to get scum vibes when someone orchestrates our next lynches for us.

Only 7 alive were not voting Fletcher, and I believe spork and Thesp's claims. That leave us with Dirge, Ibaesha, Maverick, MeMe, and Mr_Gnome_It_All. I have a relatively good feeling about MeMe right now, and Maverick hasn't posted enough for me to get a read on him.

Therefore, I'll FoS: Maverick for being a huge lurker, but the person I have the worst gut feeling about right now is Dirge, so I'll vote: Dirge

and go from there.

Ibaesha, MGIA: IGMEOY

I don't get how the voting makes this so obvious, and I don't like having to go through his list of people that he's set up for us. If he is scum, then he would've presented whatever common thread he needed to make a batch for us to focus on ignoring scum buddies. I always like to keep all options open, not narrow it down to a handful that we have to pick from and go down the list when they don't hold up.

I know that MoS just plays that way, at least from what I saw at MeMeMeet, but it still bugs me.

[Thesp]

Really? I see MoS as more likely to be pro-town.

[Fishbulb]

Well, care to give any reason why that is the case? I thought I explained myself enough there to get more response than just a contradiction.

[mlaker]

I definetely agree with Fishbulb. When a player starts orchestrating a lynch it seems to me that even if they are town they could be wrong and we could follow their guidance and end up lynching wrong. And if the leader is scum we are just falling into their trap. Especially MoS who does not mind throwing his fellow scum under the bus as we've seen from MeMeMeet. I know ibaesha has heard me say these things before. Leaders seem very scummy to me.

FOS MoS

[jeep]

I'm leaning towards Fritz and his one line posts throughout the entire game. Unfortunately, I'm so out of touch with how people play, I'm not sure if this is normal or if it's something to note.

Anyway, for now:

vote: Fritzler

-JEEP

[Mastermind of Sin]

Whoo! Everyone in my car. It has plenty of room, seriously.

At this point, my biggest gut feeling is on Mastermind of Sin. And I'm not joking this time. I tend to get scum vibes when someone orchestrates our next lynches for us.

Only 7 alive were not voting Fletcher, and I believe spork and Thesp's claims. That leave us with Dirge, Ibaesha, Maverick, MeMe, and Mr_Gnome_It_All. I have a relatively good feeling about MeMe right now, and Maverick hasn't posted enough for me to get a read on him.

Therefore, I'll FoS: Maverick for being a huge lurker, but the person I have the worst gut feeling about right now is Dirge, so I'll vote: Dirge

and go from there.

Ibaesha, MGIA: IGMEOY

I don't get how the voting makes this so obvious, and I don't like having to go through his list of people that he's set up for us. If he is scum, then he would've presented whatever common thread he needed to make a batch for us to focus on ignoring scum buddies. I always like to keep all options open, not narrow it down to a handful that we have to pick from and go down the list when they don't hold up.

I know that MoS just plays that way, at least from what I saw at MeMeMeet, but it still bugs me.

It's not like I said there weren't scum on the Fletcher wagon. In fact, I specifically said that there probably were. I just felt that since I was even more sure that there was someone NOT on that wagon that was scum, and the list was smaller, I have a better chance of catching scum if I start off by looking at that list. If you want to go through and take a look at everyone that was on that wagon and try to narrow that list down, be my guest. I simply feel there's too much room for error with that large of a list, so I'm opting for the easier-located scum.

[Mastermind of Sin]

I definetely agree with Fishbulb. When a player starts orchestrating a lynch it seems to me that even if they are town they could be wrong and we could follow their guidance and end up lynching wrong. And if the leader is scum we are just falling into their trap. Especially MoS who does not mind throwing his fellow scum under the bus as we've seen from MeMeMeet. I know ibaesha has heard me say these things before. Leaders seem very scummy to me.

FOS MoS

If I like throwing my scumbuddies under the bus so much, why aren't you lynching Dirge?

[Dirge]

MOS I my reasons for voting Thesp were and are in my opinion pretty solid. BTW, Thesp have you explained what happened yesterday? It's possible that I missed it.

We're going to be away for the next couple of days.

[Mastermind of Sin]

MOS I my reasons for voting Thesp were and are in my opinion pretty solid. BTW, Thesp have you explained what happened yesterday? It's possible that I missed it.

We're going to be away for the next couple of days.

erm, but what are your reasons?