Mafia in La-La Land (Game over!)

[Blastoide]

How do you [Staeg] feel about Kondi?

Oh, I missed this before - dude needs to be purged off the face of the planet at some point, but this day is not the day for that.

Why? Is it because you think he may be scum or because of his playstyle?

[Shamrock]

I am voting for Bitmap over Shamrock because I can see how Shramrock questioned Mehdii in two ways. The way I explained earlier, and also in a pro-town way. He could've done it to make sure that Mehdii wasn't just resting his vote there. Bitmap on the other hand only posted fluff and sheeped a vote. None of that can be seened in a pro-town way this far. Thus I have a null on Shamrock and Bitmap is leaning scum. That is why my vote is on Bitmap.

Ehmmmmm this isn't what you said at all, in your previous post you called me null leaning scum.

If this was your reasoning for voting Bitmap over me then why did you call me null leaning scum in your previous post?

[Blastoide]

I thought it over, and I realized that what you said could've been coming from a town. Either way, I think Bitmap is more scum than you for now.

[Shamrock]

That's not what I asked. I mean, okay, so that's why you're keeping your vote on Bitmap

now

. But when you voted him in post 163, that's not the reasoning you gave then - in that post, you saw only the scummy possibility behind my questioning of Medhii. What I'm asking you is: why did you vote Bitmap in post 163?

There is an inconsistency to the thread of your logic here that I find scummy.

[Inox]

Sham. I think you're pressuring Blastoide for something that isn't really a scumtell.

[Blastoide]

That's not what I asked. I mean, okay, so that's why you're keeping your vote on Bitmap

now

. But when you voted him in post 163, that's not the reasoning you gave then - in that post, you saw only the scummy possibility behind my questioning of Medhii. What I'm asking you is: why did you vote Bitmap in post 163?

There is an inconsistency to the thread of your logic here that I find scummy.

Honestly, it was to get Bitmap to talk more. To add pressure. But then his next post was him going on V/LA thus rendering my vote useless.
UNVOTE: Bitmap
Let me go through these pages again. It may be awhile. (I suck at scum hunting.)

[DeasVail]

Eh

UNVOTE: Agar
VOTE: Staeg

Shamrock:

What do you think of Blastoide, and how has your recent exchange with him altered your opinion (if at all)?

[Quilford]

Day 1

Konowa

(4) Staeg, Shamrock, MattP, Inox

kondi2424

(4) Mehdi2277, PMysterious, Shiidaji, Bitmap

MattP

(2) manho, Jackal711

Staeg

(1) DeasVail

Bitmap

(1) kondi2424

Jackal711

(1) AGar

Mehdi2277

(1) Konowa

Seastormjt

(1) Gammagooey

Inox

(1) Seastormjt

Not Voting

(5) xRECKONERx, PeregrineV, Darkcrimson, whispersilk, Blastoide

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With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch or No Lynch.

Deadline hits in (expired on 2012-09-02 00:09:48).

Activity

I really really don't want to replace PeregrineV because he's been here recently. However, I'm going to start to look for a Darkcrimson replacement.

Prodding whispersilk.

PeregrineV has declared V/LA until the 20th.
manho has declared V/LA until the 22nd.
Bitmap has declared V/LA until the 23rd.
Jackal711 has declared V/LA until the 22nd.

[Staeg]

How do you [Staeg] feel about Kondi?

Oh, I missed this before - dude needs to be purged off the face of the planet at some point, but this day is not the day for that.

Why? Is it because you think he may be scum or because of his playstyle?

Playstyle.

[kondi2424]

I just remembered that one game where you were scum and I had just figured out how when I had gotten lynched. And Quilford was the Mod.

Updating my reads.

[kondi2424]

About how many Mafia are usually in a game this size?

[DeasVail]

I don't really know, but I think 5 sounds about right if there's one team, and it's most likely 3/3 if multiball.

[xRECKONERx]

Hey Reck is Matt town?

BELIEVE IN ME BABE

He's on the right track at this point.

Hey Reck. I'm interested in knowing what you think of Konowa right now.

Vote: Konowa

[Konowa]

You guys are cute.

Read Mehdi.
Now tell me, despite the massive amount of garbage he has posted thus far, who he has taken a stance on.
All he has done so far is ask “questions” and posture. His vote of Reck in 103 is obnoxious reaching and a pointless “pressure vote” that scum can easily hide behind.

Shamrock hit on what I was referring to in regards to Blastoide in post 203. At time of his [Blastoide] post, I feel that there is a disconnect between reasoning and vote.
He lists Bitmap for sheeping.
He then explains how Shamrock deconstructed Mehdi’s obvious pressure vote.
To me, his reasoning at time looks to be stronger for a Shamrock vote.

More later.

[kondi2424]

VOTE: Konowa

[xRECKONERx]

All he has done so far is ask “questions” and posture. His vote of Reck in 103 is obnoxious reaching and a pointless “pressure vote” that scum can easily hide behind.

No it isn't.

[Konowa]

Wouldn't be the first time I was wrong, but no what isn't?

[xRECKONERx]

No, it wasn't obnoxious reaching nor was it a pressure vote. It was pretty clearly something he found legitimately scummy.

[xRECKONERx]

EBWOP: And he's right, it is scummy to do what I did, as I freely admitted.

[Konowa]

Your entrance post is not scummy, to me at least. That kind of post can easily come from town as well as scum. So yes, calling your entrance post scummy is reaching and he self-admittedly said that it was also for pressure reasons.

Besides that, what do you think of Mehdi not taking any stances so far? His play feels like new scum asking lots questions to gather a general consensus to hide the fact that he has not said one thing yet.

To that point, Mehdi who do you think is scum?

[xRECKONERx]

That kind of post can easily come from town as well as scum. So yes, calling your entrance post scummy is reaching and he self-admittedly said that it was also for pressure reasons.

No no no no no no. It is objectively scummy, because there's not really a strictly town motivation behind that post (in the purest sense of playing mafia). However, there

is

a scum motivated reason to make that post, and it's that by complaining about game length, you can shirk responsibility later.

It's not reaching. Not even remotely. If he had tried to use that post to say "Reck is scum, and his buddy is clearly XYZ" then yes, I'd call it reaching. But it's not reaching to point out that a post was scummy when it was.

Besides that, what do you think of Mehdi not taking any stances so far? His play feels like new scum asking lots questions to gather a general consensus to hide the fact that he has not said one thing yet.

You know, I don't know, because I haven't read the whole thread. I'm winging this and trying to get a vibe for things as I go, here. I will say this... if you're town, I think you're wrong on Mehdi, and you should try to take off the blinders. And if you're scum jumping on the first juicy victim... well... alright, keep going right ahead.

[Konowa]

When you point it in terms like that, yes I suppose I see why in a vacuum your post can be viewed as scummy. I guess what my point is, is that I read posts like that as null and then later review once said player has started playing.

unvote;

I still would like for Mehdi to provide scum reads.
I also am waiting on Blastoide to address the disconnect I pointed out.

[Staeg]

Konowa, why did it take you so long to tell us why Mehdi's scum?

[MattP]

Konowas awkward artificial play style progression and his fabricated "I'm cool" tone are preeettty laughable LOL amirite?

[MattP]

Wouldn't be the first time I was wrong, but no what isn't?

In 213, 216 and 221 who are you trying to serve your shit to konowa and does it come with any side dishes?