Worst role ideas?

[saulres]

If that happened, he wouldn't be Muhammad.

He'd be Chuck Norris.

[zoraster]

But that's the saying... "If the Mohammad won't go to the mountain, the mountain will come to Mohammad."

[saulres]

Nope. You have it backwards.

[zoraster]

hmm too bad. it was more interesting the other way.

EDIT: But i should add, it does make it make more sense.

[izakthegoomba]

zor is right about the saying, but that doesn't mean the role should reflect it.

[zoraster]

actually, looking it up, there seem to be a lot of confusion, but I think saulres is correct.

[saulres]

Looking it up, I find my version can be traced to Francis Bacon, and the reverse (obverse?) doesn't seem to have a source.

Maybe it's a regional thing. Fascinating stuff, linguistics. (Which this is kind of related to. But I'm going to stop now.)

[saulres]

By your logic they die, which means they don't shoot, which means they don't die, which means they DO shoot, which means they don't shoot, etc.

You are a

Time Paradox JOAT

. You may take any action you wish at night. If you do, the universe explodes.

You win with the town.

[Timeater]

sup guys. got a few roles here from my mafia folder. tell me what you like/hate. all these would be in open setups (or variable/semi open) as thats pretty much the only kind of game i'm interested in as a mod

Darkdeath Evilman:

During Pregame, Darkdeath Evilman gets to pick which players he wants on his scumteam.

Lonely Spirit:

During the day, you can KILL MYSELF to become a Lonely Spirit. You die (the day does not end), but during the night for the rest of the game you can target a player. The following day you may talk to that player in a fresh qt. You cannot choose the same player two days in a row. (town role)

Prince:

If he dies or is lynched, the Prince is told who the remaining town players are and must choose 2 to kill. If he is alive at the start of Day 4, those townies can no longer be killed in that manner and upto 2 townies of his choosing are revived and can post in the thread, however they cannot vote and dont count towards the majority. (town role) (there is no dead qt)

Scholar:

During Night 1, the Scholar chooses to research 3 targets. If he is alive at the start of Day 4, he will gain gain rolecop information on all those targets. (town or scum) (same game/vein as the prince)

[Mehdi2277]

I don't really consider them worst roles (although I'm definition of bad is pure horrible since I tend to like most things). They're fairly interesting (favorite for me is lonely spirit or scholar). Only one I dislike is darkdeath (not really mod guessing, but players guessing who would have picked scum a, etc just doesn't seem to be that fun to play with in an open setup).

Edit: Although I can scholar getting the complaint that the player has to play like a survivor for the first 3 days if they care about the power (or they can just treat themselves as vanilla since it's unlikely more then one of the players picked at start would be alive day 4 in a setup under 13 players). Scholar's power is fairly connected to game size.

[Timeater]

oh i just posted in this thread because it was discussing roles and i didnt want to create a new thread

[quadz08]

Darkdeath, Spirit, and Scholar all have their place. Certainly not normal roles (except possibly scholar) but not unusable.

Prince I don't really understand. >_>

[Timeater]

He (and Scholar) are from a setup I was calling "Great Expectations" where most of the PRs revolved around staying alive until Day 4. The kill mechanic could be scaled down but I wanted him to have the potential for a lot of negative utility. The point of the role is to bring back two strong townies (basically treestumps without the bother) into a lylo or close to lylo lategame situation; where they could scumhunt from a bully pulpit. Naturally the Prince should pick the two strongest players who were killed. This sort of counters the practice of the mafia killing off "good" players early game. Anyway, its intrinsically swingy so I'm kinda meh about it.

[ProsecutorGodot]

Voldemort aka He Who Must Not Be Named

If anyone mentions your username outside of a vote, you are revealed as a Mafia Goon by the Mod.

[Ythan]

Alternatively, if anyone uses your name in another game you may immediately join.

[saulres]

You are a

NegativeVoter

. You have no abilities except your voice and your vote. Your vote, though, is worth -1 instead of 1. You win with the town.

[Timeater]

Cool, I like it

[izakthegoomba]

Rings a bell, we may have had that one before. It's pretty borky in the Endgame.

[Toon Fighter]

Self targeting roles!

You are a

Self Cop

. Every night you may investigate yourself. (Modnote: sanity may vary)

You are a

Self Vig

. Every night you may shoot yourself. (Modnote: actually vanilla)

You are a

Self Jailkeeper

. Every night you may protect and block yourself. (Modnote: the result of his action is based on a coin flip)

You are a

Self Tracker

. Every night you may track yourself.

You are a

Self Voter

. Every day you may vote for yourself.

Actually, Self Doc and Self Watcher wouldn't be so bad. Any other suggestions?

[Klazam]

Self cop- doesn't know his own alignment, sanities change every night.

Hellish role, I'm sure

[ProsecutorGodot]

Mitt Romney

Your alignment changes at random. You are informed of your alignment at the start of the game, but you can't trust that it will be that way throughout the entire day. Flip will be based on what side Mitt was on at the time of the hammer. Just to be safe, you get no QT even while scum.

[McStab]

You are a

Self Innocent Child

. At any point in the game you may request the mod to send you another role PM confirming that you are, in fact, pro-town. This information cannot be shared with the town, but if you're anxious about alignment-changing bastard games, this role is great.

[Psyche]

Or if you are a mod interested in creating such anxiousness...

[callforjudgement]

You are a

Self Innocent Child

. At any point in the game you may request the mod to send you another role PM confirming that you are, in fact, pro-town. This information cannot be shared with the town, but if you're anxious about alignment-changing bastard games, this role is great.

(Mod note: although the win condition will always be the actual pro-town one, the rest of the role PM changes.)

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Self Dethy.

1x Self Sane Cop
1x Self Insane Cop
1x Self Paranoid Cop
1x Self Naive Cop
1x Mafia Framer/Tailor (compulsory to target somebody other than the kill, his target gets reversed results if not paranoid or naive.)