Mini #355- Starcraft Mafia, Over

[Patrick]

Why does MBF strike you as town? I'm interested.

[rogue_two]

Sorry I've disappeared; I'm back in town and back in the game.

I'm about to really post, but

mod

, I unvoted AniX back in post 100.

[rogue_two]

Okay, this will be sort of quick. I'll explain or expand if someone wants.

But I agree with the obvious reasons for suspecting Lumos. She does remind me of one pro-town player I have encountered in my very limited experience (1.5 games.....) who also whipped out the "go ahead and lynch me, you'll see i'm not scum" line. At the same time, I think the respons for suspecting her (being easily swayed by Rosso's accusation of keeping her distance from Romanus, craplogic, etc.) are very valid. I won't push for a lynch yet, but IGMEOY, Lomus.

Colonel Kurtz is being a bit of a jerk, but I'm not getting a really scummy vibe from him. It could be a playstyle as much as Rosso's aggressiveness, so I think for both of them, we need to look past the tone of their posts to determine their alignment.

I agree with the AniX critique. I know it's largely in jest, but saying, "Oh, I'm great in the endgame" is comparable to playing the newbie card.

FoS: AniX

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We've heard next to nothing from Max and Ameliaslay, and precious little from MBF. MBF has ducked out of hiding to simply vote for Romanus with no explanation. He's posted more than others, but with a very low percentage of game-related content. Then Ameliaslay voted with no explanation as well. I think these three deserve more attention than they're getting.

FoS: Max, Ameliaslay and mikeburnfire

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Thumb of suspicion: someone else

. I figure the entire hand should be involved in the accusations.

[Infested-jerk]

Amelia has a valid reason to be inactive.

~nuff said.

[Patrick]

Not nuff said. How long is it likely to last? Is it worth replacing.

[mikeburnfire]

I'm voting Romanus based on post his post 58 attempt to allign himself with players of an unknown alliance.

I also don't like his last post. I've done nothing unusual to indicate my pro-townieness. Seems like he's buddying up to me. And the way he defends a possibly innocent Lumos as he is quickly rushed to the guillotine seems to indicate a scum attempting to make himself look better when an innocent is lynched and he was defending the lynchee.

[Infested-jerk]

Patrick, I do not feel at this time that it warrants a replacement.

[Romanus]

MBF and everyone for that matter, I have my hunches, I have my style as well. And get off the whole Lumos thing, I have not only backed off but also stated why, and others agree. Yes, I am aligning myself with certain players, how is that scummy. I also stated that I think you are not scummy, how is that scummy? Buddying up my ass. I'm much smarter than that crap. The point is that I'm not worried about the votes on me, I like to know why they are there, though. Also, the other reason I think MBF is town has something to do with him being after me. Weird, I know, but hey that is the way it is.

MBF all I can say is that you are barking up the wrong tree.

Also, I don't like Rogue 2's last post. Remind of an unvote then attacks the guy he unvoted. Casts a wide net of suspicion, runs to my rescue, pointing at lurkers. Not unlike a fireworks show where everybody's eyes are everywhere but on the guy lighting the fuse. But not me

UNVOTE; VOTE:Rogue two

[Patrick]

Buddying up my ass. I'm much smarter than that crap.

No you're not. You tried it on me last game. Well actually you tried all sorts, but eventually you settled for telling me that I looked pro town when I was attacking you. It could have been more reasonable that time because there was a lot of past material to judge whether I was pro town or not. But here as MBF said, he hasn't done much for you to think he's particularly pro town. So this can easily be seen as buddying up.

I know what you're saying about rogue. A lurker hunt is often something scum do when they can't think of anyone to be 'suspicious' of. I also want to hear from Max and Anix. I agree we shouldn't just drop everything and wait for them. But still hoping they'll start posting.

[mikeburnfire]

Still think Romanus is scum.

[CrashTextDummie]

I'm starting to feel the same.

Vote: Romanus

[Infested-jerk]

Vote Count:
Colonel Kurtz: 0
Romanus: 3. , Lumos, MBF, Crashtextdummie
Rouge_two: 1, Romanus
MikeBurnFire: 1 Anix
Anix: 0
Max: 0
Rosso Carne: 0
Lumos: 5, SpectrumVoid, Colonel Kurtz, Rosso Carne, Patrick, Ameliaslay

Seven to lynch.

[Patrick]

Unvote

for now. I want to see Romanus's reply.

[Romanus]

The specific reason that I have a feeling that MBF is town is due to the episode when he tried to "fake lynch" anix. That struck me as a very interesting episode, which started the multiple vote thing. I have made a judgement based on that episode and what has followed has been in line with that judgement.

I am playing this game somewhat aggressively, and taking some chances. We'll see if it pans out.

Patrick, I am also well aware of the methods I used in another game. The problem is that I am going to use the same tactics no matter what my role is, to some degree. I know you are going to be suspicious of me and keep an eye on me, that is fine, just don't get too trigger happy.

I hope that satisfies your demands, Patrick.

[mikeburnfire]

I wasn't trying to 'fake lynch' AniX. I really did want him to be lynched

[AniX]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure MBF has had it out for me since I slept with his sister and mother at the same time...

[Ameliaslay]

The specific reason that I have a feeling that MBF is town is due to the episode when he tried to "fake lynch" anix. That struck me as a very interesting episode, which started the multiple vote thing. I have made a judgement based on that episode and what has followed has been in line with that judgement.

How exactly can you construe that as pro-townlike?

[mikeburnfire]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure MBF has had it out for me since I slept with his sister and mother at the same time...

This is very creepy due to the fact that the closest thing I have to a sister was a miscarrage.

But I know AniX is just making a joke. He told me on scumchat that he thought girls were icky.

[Rosso Carne]

why isnt lomus dead yet?

[Romanus]

It is a 'fake lynch' because he really didn't have enough votes to be lynched but it was made to look like a lynch.

I judged from that incident that MBF is likely townie, I can't necessarily explain it, sorry.

Lumos isn't lynched yet because she is a townie.

[Patrick]

That is really strange. MBF makes makes a joke vote to 'fakelynch' Anix. I really have no idea how Romanus would see that as pro town.

Patrick, I am also well aware of the methods I used in another game. The problem is that I am going to use the same tactics no matter what my role is, to some degree. I know you are going to be suspicious of me and keep an eye on me, that is fine, just don't get too trigger happy.

To some degree you might. But buddying up or at least trying to soften someone up by calling them pro town for no good reason doesn't seem like a very town tactic to me.

Unvote, Vote: Romanus

[Lumos]

Woah, here I thought I was going to be dead quickly... and now I'm not...

I have to say Romanus is acting a little strange, even though he's coming to my defense it seems strange, I don't know what to think right now.

[Ameliaslay]

It is a 'fake lynch' because he really didn't have enough votes to be lynched but it was made to look like a lynch.

I judged from that incident that MBF is likely townie, I can't necessarily explain it, sorry.

Lumos isn't lynched yet because she is a townie.

You certainly have an interesting method of determining someone's [ro-towness. And your insistence on Lumos's innocence when we've started in day is also

interesting

You should have no outside information whatsoever and therefore no base to build your confidence on. odd.

[Romanus]

No, I have no outside information to go on, this is all speculation.

Look, I agree that my behavior may seem weird, strange, even erratic, but none of this is scummy. I ask you to go back and read what has been going on and judge if you think I am simply being weird, or whether I am being scummy.

Here comes the WIFOM:
Would a scum put on a show like this, doing admittedly strange things, attacking Lumos then defending her, saying that the guy leading the charge against him is most likely town. Like I said, WIFOM, but there it is anyway.

Also, I am not trying to duck and hide from any of this. I would say that my behavior has caused more real game discussion than anyone else. This is one of the main reasons for acting the way I am.

Question: MBF, how do you deal with the fact that the guy you are riding is "buddying up" to you? How does everyone else feel about it?

Here is the other great thing, look at my first wagon, then the Lumos wagon, now my wagon again. Now, does that give us some good info or not. Also, consider them with either me or Lumos being scum, then neither of us being scum, and both of us being scum. What does this reveal? Does it give any hints?
Regardless on whether I am lynched or not, there is information, valuable day one info that helps power roles determine what to do.

Say whatever you will, my behavior has been good for the town.

[mikeburnfire]

Question: MBF, how do you deal with the fact that the guy you are riding is "buddying up" to you?

Answer: I vote them.