The game of the year: town won!

[izakthegoomba]

Dammit.

Well, this was a fun game to read, if I can forget I was playing in it once.

I still think the Mimes were severely underpowered. If during the section of the game that we're expected to be alive there are an average of 3/4 lynches per day, then averages alone show that at least one of us should be NK'd. Putting the Angels in on top of that really made us an insignificant threat - which in turn meant the scum was underpowered due to the lack of chaos we would have been expected to create.

Now, I know I fucked up. I very nearly confirmed myself as town, which would have made it insanely hard to get lynched. But ultimately it didn't matter, because one loose cannon angel made us insta-lose

[mykonian]

I mean at least make it multiscum ffs

That always ends in tears. Crosskills are boring.

[izakthegoomba]

Maybe giving scum two kills would have helped balance it in a town/scum sense.

[mykonian]

aaaaah, not even close.

The game barely functioned like this, where scum didn't shoot all the good townies straight away.

[YYR]

I laughed quite a bit at the amount of post-hammer votes I received, although admittedly I deserved it.

[Trevor]

eh he'd just led a lynch on scum after the general horribleness on part of everyone the day before

this was the worst lynch in the game:

hoopla (10): amrun, staeg, technowc, chronopie, jackal711, zajnet, kondi2424, deltawave, uberninja, PenegrineV

T-Bone, Luffy, Technowc, and Spyrex were also pretty bad.

I said it in the dead qt, and my thoughts haven't changed.
Too many lynches early gave town a lot of information.
Too few scum kills made it impossible for scum to counter that.

Maybe if the scum should have used their kills wisely by killing off peta, the best scumhunter, or the angels.


Townsided setup, but the scum thrived for the first few days due to the sheer chaos that you get with 50 people. Scum lost because none of them made anyone's "obvious town" list, and the good scumhunters weren't killed in time.


Fuck you Deltawave

[callforjudgement]

I made quite a few people's obvtown lists, but just as quickly fell off it again.

I rarely have trouble looking town early game, but I can't always keep it up, sadly for my win rate. (And I'm most likely to fail to keep it up if I don't have a good handle on the gamestate, which is more likely to happen in larger games.)

[Trevor]

It was interesting how Fritzler and Manho didn't help the scum at all. They didn't even put up a fight when lynched. Why the fuck would you claim VT instead of rolefishing/trying to save your ass? VT is just a death sentence that early.

[izakthegoomba]

Yeah, if you're scum and certain to be lynched it's usually best to claim a PR in the hope of drawing the real one out.

[Zdenek]

I said it in the dead qt, and my thoughts haven't changed.
Too many lynches early gave town a lot of information.
Too few scum kills made it impossible for scum to counter that.

As an example of the power of multiple lynches, Zachtown in the mountains was a 13-3 mountainless setup where town got 2 lynches a day and it ended with a town win in MYLO, so that seems pretty balanced, whereas 12-2 mountainless with normal lynching is scum sided, and you could expect that 12-2 with two lynches a day would be town sided.

Looking at that, In terms of numbers, 7-37, ignoring the angels and mimes, this game with even 2 lynches a day would have probably been town sided, but it's close.

[redFF]

VT is just a death sentence that early.

it is?

[mykonian]

I said it in the dead qt, and my thoughts haven't changed.
Too many lynches early gave town a lot of information.
Too few scum kills made it impossible for scum to counter that.

As an example of the power of multiple lynches, Zachtown in the mountains was a 13-3 mountainless setup where town got 2 lynches a day and it ended with a town win in MYLO, so that seems pretty balanced, whereas 12-2 mountainless with normal lynching is scum sided, and you could expect that 12-2 with two lynches a day would be town sided.

Looking at that, In terms of numbers, 7-37, ignoring the angels and mimes, this game with even 2 lynches a day would have probably been town sided, but it's close.

This game averages out at 2 lynches for each kill. It's just that the lynches were pulled to the front to speed up the game.

[Zdenek]

I said it in the dead qt, and my thoughts haven't changed.
Too many lynches early gave town a lot of information.
Too few scum kills made it impossible for scum to counter that.

As an example of the power of multiple lynches, Zachtown in the mountains was a 13-3 mountainless setup where town got 2 lynches a day and it ended with a town win in MYLO, so that seems pretty balanced, whereas 12-2 mountainless with normal lynching is scum sided, and you could expect that 12-2 with two lynches a day would be town sided.

Looking at that, In terms of numbers, 7-37, ignoring the angels and mimes, this game with even 2 lynches a day would have probably been town sided, but it's close.

This game averages out at 2 lynches for each kill. It's just that the lynches were pulled to the front to speed up the game.

I really don't think that average lynches has the same effect as weighting the lynches to happen at the start.

[mykonian]

nope, but neither is it that far off.

[Timeater]

could have used some SKs

[mykonian]

no that's a fun role, one against 49

and I think the mimes would disagree

[MattP]

1 scum 49 town

Change the lynch mechanic with a scumkill mechanic, scum has an amount of kills each night equivolent to the amount of people left / 10 rounded down. Town gets one lynch a day.

[saulres]

26 town, 24 scum. Start off in MyLo.

[Timeater]

no that's a fun role, one against 49

and I think the mimes would disagree

better than autolossing an entire faction because of a nightkill or the loss of one member

[mykonian]

1 scum 49 town

Change the lynch mechanic with a scumkill mechanic, scum has an amount of kills each night equivolent to the amount of people left / 10 rounded down. Town gets one lynch a day.

that's really boring for 49 townies they are cannon fodder.

[izakthegoomba]

could have used some SKs

1 scum 49 town

Change the lynch mechanic with a scumkill mechanic, scum has an amount of kills each night equivolent to the amount of people left / 10 rounded down. Town gets one lynch a day.

26 town, 24 scum. Start off in MyLo.

[IceGuy]

stillbetterthanthemimes.jpg

[izakthegoomba]

[mykonian]

mimes are cool if you don't die day 1

[UberNinja]

26 town, 24 scum. Start off in MyLo.

at scummer of love we did a 17p vengeful with 8 scum which started off in MyLo

town won! lol