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Post Post #3425 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:23 am

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This kills the PGOiser.
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Post Post #3426 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:27 am

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That would be fun.
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Post Post #3427 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:15 am

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*tries to target self*
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Post Post #3428 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:39 am

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Clearly you need to aim the PGOiser role at a reflexive CPR doctor.
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Post Post #3429 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:54 am

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My head hurts.
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Post Post #3430 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:57 am

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Mindfuck alert!
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Post Post #3431 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:42 am

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What does the reflexive modifier do? Target the person targeting the doc?
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Post Post #3432 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:50 am

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That's the normal interpretation of the modifier. (Think PGO = reflexive vigilante.)

As far as I can tell, a reflexive CPR doctor who is also a PGO completely cancels themselves out, except if a macho player targets them.
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Post Post #3433 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:02 am

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You are a
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Post Post #3434 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:13 am

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Doesn't that have exactly the same problems as a regular lightning rod, but only some of the time?

I guess it's pretty powerful for town if there's a doctor, and they figure out who the reflexive lightning rod is in time (to self-protect while drawing every other action, thus leading to a no-kill night). Unless there's also an SK. Probably best if the lightning rod claims day 2 if there was a 1-kill or no-kill night the previous night.
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Post Post #3435 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:17 am

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Nope, I think you're missing it.

Basically, your presence in the game ensures that whatever anyone does, they do to themselves. So a mafia or SK kill would kill whoever submitted it, a town cop would discover that they are innocent, etc.
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Post Post #3436 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:19 am

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So...12 man game, 4 scum and an SK...let the scum figure out that they're killing themselves and try to win via lynching? Sucks to be the SK there :D

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Post Post #3437 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:21 am

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I think you may be confused at what a lightning rod and reflexive does. It generally attracts every power to itself. Reflexive means it activates when targetted. So in this case, it means that as soon as the LR is targetted, it's suddenly targetted by all powers.

I think maybe what you mean is a reflexive lightning rodizer.
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Post Post #3438 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:22 am

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Ok, but if we took the idea saulres had, rename it, and make it third party with a survivor-ish wincon...
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Post Post #3439 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:22 am

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Oh, I thought 3431 and 3432 meant that reflexive meant it turned back on the person using the ability. I couldn't find it on the wiki.
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Post Post #3440 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:23 am

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I think what he's describing is kind of like a mirror (reflective.... i get where the confusion came from?)
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Post Post #3441 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:23 am

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In post 3435, saulres wrote:Nope, I think you're missing it.

Basically, your presence in the game ensures that whatever anyone does, they do to themselves. So a mafia or SK kill would kill whoever submitted it, a town cop would discover that they are innocent, etc.


I think you also need Reflective.
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Post Post #3442 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:24 am

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izak: that already exists, normally called "reflector" or "mirror" something along those lines. (I think I was once a Mirror Survivor in a xylbot game.)
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Post Post #3443 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:26 am

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Question: Reflexive <anything>. Tracker targets. Does the reflexive <anything> visit the person who visited him?

If so, and you put a reflexive tracker and a tracker in the game, how many times do they visit each other if the tracker visits the reflexive tracker.
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Post Post #3444 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:27 am

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This is the wiki page I usually look at for role PMs.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... d_Role_PMs
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Post Post #3445 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:29 am

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In post 3443, zoraster wrote:Question: Reflexive <anything>. Tracker targets. Does the reflexive <anything> visit the person who visited him?

If so, and you put a reflexive tracker and a tracker in the game, how many times do they visit each other if the tracker visits the reflexive tracker.

I'd say:

Tracker targets RT.
RT reflexively targets Tracker.
Tracker receives info that RT targeted Tracker.
RT receives info that Tracker tarted RT.
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Post Post #3446 (ISO) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:21 pm

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*Voice of the People*:The Voice of the People cannot be targeted with any Night Action and cannot be lynched. All votes against him will not be included in the votecount. This trumps over any and all effects, such as Strongman etc. In other words, nothing except the mod can kill the Voice of the People. The Voice of the People has no night action and cannot vote.

I used to play a game with 4 Townies, 1 Voice of the People and 1 Mafioso. Since the Voice of the People cannot be killed, the Mafioso's win condition was to kill all the townies.
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Post Post #3447 (ISO) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:32 pm

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You should let the mafia choose the voice of the people.

Though then, VI scum would be lynched at daybreak.
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Post Post #3448 (ISO) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:58 pm

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In post 3421, saulres wrote:I've seen a stump rot and beget fungi. So that's something.


The stump wasn't doing any of that, microorganisms were eating the stump (rot) and the fungus was too (growing). Both of those actions were instigated by external factors, not the stump.

My point stands.
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Post Post #3449 (ISO) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:54 pm

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You are a
Microorganism
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You are a
Fungus
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