Mafia Behind the Maiden (Game over!)

[Glork]

LLD+Nik isn't entirely unreasonable. I guess I could compromise over to a Niklynch today.

[ToastyToast]

26. ToastyToast - RB and Neighbourizer - been blocked on 2 nights of NKs (I think?) - strange CC to Alch though. Hmm.

No, only one. How was my CC strange?

@Whoever said they suspected TSH: Why?

Upon considering other options, I realized we haven't discussed the turned to stone thing. From flavor, the only person who turns others to stone in the game is Queen Ashera, the Goddess of Order lady. She's the main villain (other than SK sephiran dude). She also is not aligned with Daein. Possible second third party instead of last scum?

The Queens sister is alligned with Daein, and is basically Micaiah in beast mode. Not sure if she would have same "stone Glork" powers.

Just a thought about who we're looking for.

[Tierce]

Hippos on crack. The scum wincon doesn't require them killing everyone, conftown who isn't doing a thing can be allowed to live. dana is perfectly fine, Vi doesn't do bastard games.

NEXUS MIGHT HAVE LESS CONTENT THAN YOU, KATSUKI

The problem with nexus isn't so much her 'content', but rather what's in her posts.

Players who haven't posted for 8 days well..

https://forum.mafiascum.net/search.php? ... 8&sr=posts

ok yeah this is pretty bad.

You realize implosion was killed N1 and flipped scum, right, Kats?

I'm wary of calling him town over this because ~THINGS~, though I still think he's town.

If Katsuki can seriously look THAT retarded on purpose as a gambit then he had someone log in under his account to help him play this game.

Unvote

I am not touching Kats-slot.

Glork, but... cop-miller makes sense with two town cops, and Vi likes to twist site meta. I'm fine with two town roleblockers, I'm fine with two town nation cops. I don't see why you insist that one of DDDP and LLD must be scum. I'm not against a Nikanor/Magister Ludi/Gammagooey lynch, but associating them with LLD/DDDP seems forced.


And Toasty just towntold--I think scumToasty would realize that he would be laughed at by suggesting the above, since Grey flipped Nailah of the Glare power.

[Tierce]

To elaborate on the above--something similar happened with me on Weather Mafia II; at the end, Amrun finally realized I was town because I had a theory that was so ridiculous that if I had inside knowledge, as scum, I would not propose it because it was

that

absurd. Toasty just did the same; he has no knowledge of Nailah-Glare being used by his buddy Grey, which he would have as scum. Not going to lynch this.

[Teleporting Speed Hippos]

I'm happy to defer to judgements of townTierece here re: players being town.

RE the no deaths of:

LLD - okay, I understand that she's not gonna be on the kill list
Tammy - claimed a country leader, and hasn't died yet - but I can put this down to not wanting to waste a kill (or maybe actually wasting it - see no kills) - so okay
But Dana? How do they know Dana isn't on the kill list? Has Dana claimed? :s

[Teleporting Speed Hippos]

Dana is still confTown and doesn't get lynched barring extreme bastardmod, I just find it a little strange is all and felt it was worth a mention ._."

[Tierce]

He hasn't claimed, but honestly--he's lurky, his reads haven't been phenomenal, he was proposed as a vig shot. Conftown are no danger to scum in a game where

everyone else

is town for them; if dana is not acting like a town leader, the scum don't care. MoI were dangerous for them, dana not so much--and they might even have a rolecop/namecop, so we don't know what's up with dana.

I understand your logic; you're trying to figure out if there is some reason for scum not to kill conftown, but there are several plausible ones and we can't afford to go down that road when we should be focusing on other situations first.

[Teleporting Speed Hippos]

26. ToastyToast - RB and Neighbourizer - been blocked on 2 nights of NKs (I think?) - strange CC to Alch though. Hmm.

No, only one. How was my CC strange?

I mean, it would be strange for you to CC Alch as scum. I think it's a towntell on your part.

[singersigner]

Hey Glork, a while ago I soft-claimed that people could have more than one country, and then I reread my role PM...so then I soft-claimed that people could probably be recruited (but disregarded the possibility of a cult, cuz lolcults). It seems irrelevant with who you think you're looking for, but I just thought of that, so make of it what you will.

[Tammy]

Tammy - claimed a country leader, and hasn't died yet - but I can put this down to not wanting to waste a kill (or maybe actually wasting it - see no kills) - so okay

As far as a commuter being blocked, I'm working under action resolutions that I'm used to from my site. If someone guards a commuter, they can't leave, because the guard action resolves first. If it's different here, and I can't be blocked, then awesome.

As far as missing kills or why I haven't died yet. There is a possibility I'm not on the list anyway, but I did claim on day 3. Since then:

Night 3 - MoI killed - They had already claimed to be a country leader and were masons
Night 4 - No kill - GreyIce was blocked
Night 5 - No kill - Toasty was blocked and I left
Night 6 - Alchemist killed who was Empress Sanaki.

[Teleporting Speed Hippos]

Yeah, I don't think you being left alive is alignment indicative anymore~

Blame being high on Steam Sales.

[danakillsu]

I'm back and I will do my best to figure things out tomorrow. Why does everyone have to post so much???

[Vi]

Vote Count XLIII:

Tormod
Debonair Danny DiPietro (L-6) ~ Lady Lambdadelta, ToastyToast
Gammagooey (L-7) ~ singersigner
Nikanor (L-7) ~ Hinduragi
Glork (L-7) ~ Tammy

Not Voting:

Teleporting Speed Hippos, Debonair Danny DiPietro, Gammagooey, Glork, Katsuki, Magister Ludi, Nikanor, Tierce, danakillsu

--With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

75

[Tammy]

Okay so, Implosion went after Toasty, TSH, and Dramonic. Tried to steer votes away from the Magister Ludi and GreyIce wagon in Post 1070. Thought DDD could be scum. Thought Nexus was null and Nikanor was probably town.

There was some interaction between Toasty and Implosion but most of it dealt with why each thought the other was scum, most of it seemed rather natural though and none of it looked staged. Also, since he said that GreyIce was a meh lynch and seemed to be steering away from one partner, I'm not seeing bussing here. Also, Toasty in his reads had GreyIce, Implosion and Shmugen in his scum list and Nexus in his null. Although he said that he wanted Shmugen to post soon but complained about the posts he made. I'll have to go back and look at that.

Magister Ludi's interaction with Implosion didn't feel as natural; however, in Post 1169 he apologizes to Implosion for asking a question. This would be a little strange for a partner to do as any communication would be understood as trying to make it look like they weren't partners so there would be no need to apologize for asking question in a certain way.

But, I don't like that Implosion called the ML wagon a meh one just like the GreyIce one.

So, not sold on a Toasty partnership, but could be a possibility of a ML one.

All right, tired...look at the rest tomorrow.

[Nikanor]

Night 3 - MoI killed - They had already claimed to be a country leader and were masons
Night 4 - No kill - GreyIce was blocked
Night 5 - No kill - Toasty was blocked and I left
Night 6 - Alchemist killed who was Empress Sanaki.

If the reason for the kill being stopped on N5 was you leaving, scum would know that you left that night. Unless for SOME REASON scum decided that they wanted to waste a kill on you without killing you the next night while they had the chance, it means that you weren't the reason for the missing kill on n5.
This leaves, again, Toasty, Glork, and a scum no-kill as the only possible reasons for the lack of kill on n5.

Why aren't we lynching Toasty?

[singersigner]

Why would they have the chance? Doesn't her ability allow her for consecutive night disappearances, but not a consecutive N/D disappearance?

[Nikanor]

What, really? I was thinking it was just like a normal commuter that allowed day commuting.
I'm gonna stop posting now.

[Gammagooey]

Vote: Glork

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[Gammagooey]

^there is admittedly a small part of the vote above that's based on weird theory paranoia but I don't think Glork is a bad vote right now.

I'd like to hear other people's opinions on Glork's play+claim+etc.

[Katsuki]

I'd be interested to see where this heads.

Vote: Glrok

[Katsuki]

well fuck now what do i do

nobody wants to lynch the guy I want to lynch.

The Oman wagon has built up too quickly to be on scum imo.

Like I have no fucking clue why nobody wants to lynch the Hippos. Do people actually think he is town?

Whatever I guess we don't even have a choice anyway because there's no way that Vi is getting two replacements in a 100 page game.

Unvote. Vote: Oman.

Eh nikanor why did you shift here?

[Gammagooey]

hay kats did you read the posts in between nik's by hindu?

[Katsuki]

I think I did but I don't think it meant anything to me? Because I've read that short sequence twice and still have no recollection as to what hindu said.

Anyways I decided to click the next page too and probably should just shut up for a bit because I'm happy with this wagon and shouldn't distract it.

[Katsuki]

Ok yeah nvm just pretend I didn't say anything about nikanor.

It's late.

Why are you on at this time anyways gamma it's even more crazy where you are right now.

[Gammagooey]

i am not a consistent person when it comes to when i sleep. been awake since around 2am my time.