NY Mafia 155 - New Age Mafia II - Game Over!

redFF · Post Post #225 (ISO) » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:55 am

How about this..

VT popcorn to nhammen

redFF · Post Post #226 (ISO) » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:59 am

nhammen you were here 10 minutes ago where did you go?

nhammen · Post Post #227 (ISO) » Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:41 am

I think Flameaxe had a good point about waiting, but since we've started already, I claim VT.
And you were who I was going to popcorn to if I went first, so... popcorn to Tierce I guess.

Tierce · Post Post #228 (ISO) » Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:45 am

VT.

Rhinox, go.

OhGodMyLife · Post Post #229 (ISO) » Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:56 am

Vote Count:

10 to lynch

nhammen: 6 (JDodge, AGar, Primate, redFF, Glork, Untrod Tripod)
redFF: 4 (Flameaxe, Rhinox, iamausername, nhammen)
Tierce: 3 (scooby, Thestatusquo, Quagmire)
Rhinox: 3 (umoms, Quilford, Tierce)
Thestatusquo: 1 (Bella)
Bella: 1 (Simenon)
Simenon: 1 (Staeg)

Not Voting: 0

Current Deadline:

Sunday August 5th, 10 PM EST

Untrod Tripod has requested replacement.

scooby · Post Post #230 (ISO) » Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:11 pm

antiprod, etc

Flameaxe · Post Post #231 (ISO) » Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:15 pm

In post 230, scooby wrote:antiprod, etc

Should we expect some substance with the antiprod soon?

Honestly, if anyone had any major issues with the massclaim, they would have come out with it by now. Too late to worry now.

redFF · Post Post #232 (ISO) » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:10 pm

In post 222, nhammen wrote:As for the idea of a D1 massclaim itself, I can see how it could help greatly, although I am a little uneasy about it because I've never been in a game where it's been done. The reason we usually don't massclaim is because it would give the scums a roadmap for who to kill, right? Then in low power games, scum can take out PRs easy, and turn this into mountainous. In high power games, it allows town to easily catch scum and break the game open. Is this all correct so far? If so, then massclaim is a bit of a gamble on how much power the town has, right?

This is scummy.

Glork · Post Post #233 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:36 am

Unvote

Rhinox · Post Post #234 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:09 am

Neighbor with an additional ability (my neighbor doesnt know about my extra ability by the way). I really don't think I should claim it though.

Popcorn umoms

Quilford · Post Post #235 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:50 am

UNVOTE: Rhinox
VOTE: UT

Glork · Post Post #236 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:01 am

In post 234, Rhinox wrote:Neighbor with an additional ability (my neighbor doesnt know about my extra ability by the way). I really don't think I should claim it though.

Popcorn umoms

That's not how a mass claim works. It's not a mass partial-claim, or a mass-claim-if-I'm-vanilla-or-not. It's a mass claim.

Vote: Rhinox

Primate · Post Post #237 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:00 am

With regards to the massclaim, I don't think it's a particularly good plan, but I'm willing to roll with it if it happens. I think it'd be a much stronger play in a theme, here, eh.

I really think the biggest downside is that it outs all the power roles which means that there is never any artificial resistance to wagons. Claim into, say, cop, then the following wagon after gives us more info that just wagonning another guy who claimed VT. It lets the scum plan much more efficiently at a time when they have their most, and their best players.

This is mostly a prod dodge. I didn't fulfil my promise to post the other night, yeah, but you should get something proper when I have some time tonight.

Primate · Post Post #238 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:13 am

Also, thinking about this, I'll bow to your greater experience here, but is scum claiming a uncontested power role to get into the endgame something that happens a lot?

Seems like is the main advantage you're touting and I don't think it's much of a things against the benefit to town of getting a nice PR a bit further, which can potentially clear/kill another couple of people and hand us the game.

Primate · Post Post #239 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:16 am

That last sentence was mangled a bit in editing and comes out a bit hyperbolic. It was originally about getting a PR to endgame.

Simenon · Post Post #240 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:26 am

In post 234, Rhinox wrote:Neighbor with an additional ability (my neighbor doesnt know about my extra ability by the way). I really don't think I should claim it though.

Popcorn umoms

Why are you saying that you have it, now? Isn't that just begging us to demand it from you?

Simenon · Post Post #241 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:26 am

In post 235, Quilford wrote:UNVOTE: Rhinox
VOTE: UT

That's stupid.

Glork · Post Post #242 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:27 am

In post 238, Primate wrote:Also, thinking about this, I'll bow to your greater experience here, but is scum claiming a uncontested power role to get into the endgame something that happens a lot?

Seems like is the main advantage you're touting and I don't think it's much of a things against the benefit to town of getting a nice PR a bit further, which can potentially clear/kill another couple of people and hand us the game.

I'd rather save the mass claim analysis for when tr mass claim is done. Thanks in advance.

scooby · Post Post #243 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:03 am

In post 231, Flameaxe wrote:
In post 230, scooby wrote:antiprod, etc

Should we expect some substance with the antiprod soon?

sure, we should lynch tierce, I have no fucking idea why sjhe is still alive

Aditionally, rhynox should get dayvigged or killed int he night or whatever because he is as well as scum

Koffing needs to live to engame. As well as umoms and quillford. They are all town.

I dont care about massclaiming. I just want to lych fuckign scum so hurry up, etc

AGar · Post Post #244 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:16 pm

In post 236, Glork wrote:
In post 234, Rhinox wrote:Neighbor with an additional ability (my neighbor doesnt know about my extra ability by the way). I really don't think I should claim it though.

Popcorn umoms

That's not how a mass claim works. It's not a mass partial-claim, or a mass-claim-if-I'm-vanilla-or-not. It's a mass claim.

Vote: Rhinox

^ This. Full-claim needs to happen now.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Rhinox

Quilford · Post Post #245 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:40 pm

In post 241, Simenon wrote:
In post 235, Quilford wrote:UNVOTE: Rhinox
VOTE: UT

That's stupid.

I suppose. My initial reaction to the claim was that it was town, but it's faded. I'd feel like a bit of an ass jumping back onto Rhinox though, so I'll wait.

AGar · Post Post #246 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:43 pm

In post 245, Quilford wrote:
In post 241, Simenon wrote:
In post 235, Quilford wrote:UNVOTE: Rhinox
VOTE: UT

That's stupid.

I suppose. My initial reaction to the claim was that it was town, but it's faded. I'd feel like a bit of an ass jumping back onto Rhinox though, so I'll wait.

Do. Not. Like. One. Bit.

nhammen · Post Post #247 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:23 pm

In post 232, redFF wrote:This is scummy.

Would you mind letting me know what makes you feel this way?

In post 245, Quilford wrote:I suppose. My initial reaction to the claim was that it was town, but it's faded. I'd feel like a bit of an ass jumping back onto Rhinox though, so I'll wait.

I agree with AGar that its bad. Except, why would scum say this either? Seems more playstyle than scummy.

Simenon · Post Post #248 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:27 pm

In post 247, nhammen wrote:
I agree with AGar that its bad. Except, why would scum say this either? Seems more playstyle than scummy.

huh

Quilford · Post Post #249 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:03 pm

In post 246, AGar wrote:
In post 245, Quilford wrote:
In post 241, Simenon wrote:
In post 235, Quilford wrote:UNVOTE: Rhinox
VOTE: UT

That's stupid.

I suppose. My initial reaction to the claim was that it was town, but it's faded. I'd feel like a bit of an ass jumping back onto Rhinox though, so I'll wait.

Do. Not. Like. One. Bit.

Yeah fair enough.