Mafia Behind the Maiden (Game over!)

[Tierce]

Still no Glork. -_-

Gaming night tonight, will be sporadic etc.

[Timeater]

town:

glork
dana
alchemist
hinduragi
singer
nikanor
lld
tammy
THS

possible scum:

DDD
KKB
gamma
benmage
katsuki
magister ludi
rhinox
tierce
toast

likely scum:

KKB
benmage
toast
katsuki

very likely scum:

benmage
toast

I've written this during the night. I already know I will block the nightkill. However there is always the possibility that the scum are gaming my ego and intentionally no-killed, or maybe TSH was doctored, but whatevs. Its NP. I will post this immediately at the start of the day. Vi trolled you guys pretty hard with that flip eh? Me too. Anyway.

When I reread the last day, I was specifically looking for people trying to steer away from the GI wagon. Why? Because I have a hard time believing the scum would have anything to do with lynching one of their last partners if not THE last partner they had. I was looking for whoever was offering up substitutes in desperation, that sort of thing. At first I thought Tierce was, which is sort of possible, but she contributed in her usual way which was not far from her meta this game.

I roleblocked Toasty for a few reasons. OMG Tim how could you think a roleblocker/neighborizer could be scum! Well. Toasty has been extremely ambiguous about his role. He's the only other claimed roleblocker in the game and we know there is a scum roleblocker because of the Duplicity night. Duplicity never got a kill off - he was blocked. Or maybe the scum had a higher kill speed. Whatever I digress. It doesn't matter that much. Other problems: He's "forgotten" or "couldn't" to action TWICE. 2 unaccounted roleblocks. Which is just silly when you think about it.

Then I'm counterclaiming because I'm a roleblocking neighborizer and highly doubt that town has two roleblockers. It's a day ability so unfortunately I've only had one action (D1 I forgot and D3 I was V/LA). Day 2 I neighborized/roleblocked LLD.

unvote:vote:Alchemist

Unecessary CC much? He reeks of Interrogator (think evil jailkeeper - its an em thing). Because I think there is only 1 scum left (thanks for da slip, GI), he probably couldn't have both neighborized LLD and blocked duplicity. Or maybe he could have. Maybe someone else fucked Dup's shit up. I dont know. Maybe his role is odious and has multiple-joat like appendages. I dont know. Anyway.

He CC'd to earn town cred and appear active. Simple. Hint: he really is only active when he is prompted, not a good sign. He was also trying to setup a possible mislynch on me so they wouldn't have to deal with an NK. Scum tend to try that with me. It never works, woe to them. He's in sync with the spirit of Nexus.

He roleblocked LLD because she was heavily hinting at role knowledging concerning Nikanor. Yea, roleblock that cop good! ^_^

Toasty's voting record:

Day 1 (Quilford-Town was lynched)

implosion (L-10) ~ Duplicity, ToastyToast, Nikanor
(weak bus, nowhere near the activity or a lynch)

Day 2 (Nexus-Scum was lynched)

Oman (L-8) ~ Magister Ludi, ToastyToast
(no where near a scum lynch, again - far from the action)

Day 3 (SpyreX-Town was lynched)

SpyreX (LYNCH) ~ Lady Lambdadelta, Gammagooey, kanyeknowsbest, Tierce, Hinduragi, Glork, Alchemist, Tammy,
Katsuki, Magister Ludi, MaguaofIllusion
(Not proud of this lynch myself, but it'd be too tempting for scum to not get on)

Day 4 (Uberninja-Town was lynched)

UberNinja (LYNCH) ~ Glork, Tierce, kanyeknowsbest, Lady Lambdadelta, Alchemist, Debonair Danny DiPietro,
Gammagooey, Katsuki, Benmage, ToastyToast, Hinduragi
(Pretty much the same deal as the Spyre lynch. Free excuse to vote town. Absolved of responsbility.)

Day 5 (GreyICE-Scum was lynched)

Benmage (L-8) ~ GreyICE, ToastyToast
(Perhaps the most damning vote of all.)

So you put all this together and you have someone who is habitually a non-issue. The lynches he WAS on were already huge, and his votes just reek of opportunism and just trying to get lost in the crowd.

There is also this:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p4095706

Vote:ToastyToast

gg guys. sincerely,
~your empress ^-^[line][/line]

[Alchemist]

Vote: ToastyToast

hurr durr account slips. sorry again.

[Alchemist]

Results, LLD?

[Tierce]

Vi trolled you guys pretty hard with that flip eh? Me too.

Yeah. >.> In the end I loved it, but the whole process was painful

damnyouVi

.

Guess I should actually, finally go through vote counts.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I rolecoped Rhinox.

Should I share this result or...?

[Alchemist]

why the hell wouldnt you its np we're locking da scums down atm

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ok, well Kats is from Gallia.

Rhinox probably needs to be lynched. I got a seriously WEIRD result from him.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

(But I think the result means he's from Begnion? Maybe? He needs to die.)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh, and

Vote: Toasty

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[Alchemist]

there is no reason for obfuscation atm lld

Toasty needs to die moar.=]

[kanyeknowsbest]

Still no Glork. -_-

agreed. hope he comes back soon~

[Tierce]

I rolecoped Rhinox.

Should I share this result or...?

Ok, well Kats is from Gallia.

Rhinox probably needs to be lynched. I got a seriously WEIRD result from him.

Did you get redirected or something? How do you have a Katsuki result?


kanye, it's the second time you're hinting at knowledge of what happened with Glork. What's up with that?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Katsuki is from yesterday, remember?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Kanye's town, Toasty is still probably town.

Kats is a tough one for me. I'm kind of backing down from the force with which I called him scum yesterday, in no small part due to role-related reasons. I targeted him last night, and that's all I'm going to say for now.

Oh, that's right.

I investigated Kats last night too Glork, if that's anything.

[Katsuki]

Dear Tierce, Hindu, and other fags who discredited my D1 read,

Go kindly fuck yourselves.

Love,
Katsuki

[Vi]

A pillar of light shines all around Glork...

Vote Count XXXIX:

Naesala and Nealuchi
ToastyToast (L-8) ~ Alchemist, Lady Lambdadelta

Not Voting:

Alchemist,

Teleporting Speed Hippos, Debonair Danny DiPietro, kanyeknowsbest, Gammagooey, Glork, Benmage, Hinduragi, Katsuki,

Lady Lambdadelta,

Magister Ludi, Nikanor, Rhinox, singersigner, Tammy, Tierce, ToastyToast, danakillsu

--With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.

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[Benmage]

Whats the case against Toasty?

[Benmage]

Oh rb'd rogerthat

Vote Toasty

[Benmage]

Why was I in your scum list Time? Did you see the interaction with GI... You think that was faked?

[ToastyToast]

Thanks Vi for locking the thread so that my long post got deleted.

Because I have a hard time believing the scum would have anything to do with lynching one of their last partners if not THE last partner they had.

-They would if it would clear them (cough Alchemist cough)
-I said that I was 100% willing to vote and lynch GreyICE. I still think Benmage is scum and was an equally viable lynch, and so I voted him temporarily to see GreyIce defense. I didn’t have to vote GreyICE, because enough other people agreed he was scummy.

Duplicity never got a kill off - he was blocked.

How do you know this? I assumed that Duplicity was the person with the Daykill.

Other problems: He's "forgotten" or "couldn't" to action TWICE. 2 unaccounted roleblocks. Which is just silly when you think about it.

Umm, it makes plenty of sense and isn’t silly. I WAS V/LA for one of them. Get that into your thick head. And I’ve never had a day ability. When reading the role PM, I missed the day part and thought it was a night action—one in which I would roleblock my target and get a Neighborhood with them in the day time.

He CC'd to earn town cred and appear active. Simple. Hint: he really is only active when he is prompted, not a good sign. He was also trying to setup a possible mislynch on me so they wouldn't have to deal with an NK. Scum tend to try that with me. It never works, woe to them. He's in sync with the spirit of Nexus.

Not true. Nexus posted what? 3 times? I posted plenty, and have never been prodded. I’ve continued posting throughout the game, whether or not I was prompted to do so. Saying so is a complete lie. If prompted, I'll say more--thats the only way your statement is close to the truth. It may not be as long or as aggressive as you’d like, but that's not really how I play. I’ll be active when I want to be. And yeah, I’m a defensive player. Also typical threat is typical.

Unnecessary CC much?

Not at all. I have a strong dislike for all roleblockers and still think its incredibly unlikely to have two. However, the people who were like “VI meta” convinced me.

He roleblocked LLD because she was heavily hinting at role knowledging concerning Nikanor. Yea, roleblock that cop good! ^_^

I roleblocked LLD because she was on my scum list. I don’t even remember this. This is a very fallacious argument. You are 1) assuming that I read every single post in this game thoroughly, 2) assuming that I’m scum before looking at certain events 3) assuming that everyone notices crumbs (they’re hints for a reason), 4) ignoring the fact that I have acted according to my suspicions throughout this game.

Now, for your wagon analysis, which completely sucks out and ignores anything that ACTUALLY HAPPENED during the wagon.
Day 1:First of all, I’m am utterly pissed off that you shrug off the implosion wagon as a “weak bus.” I got that whole fucking wagon started.
Also, Remember that Schmugen was another one of my major suspicions, and he went missing D2.

Day 2: I think you can all agree with me that the Oman and Nexus lynch was between two useless players who hadn’t done anything prior. The reason I voted Oman over Nexus was because he had said a few stupid things in addition to being useless. Also, by taking only the final Vote count, you are missing the fact that many more people were on the Oman wagon and switched to Nexus for the lynch. By showing the final part, you make it seem like Oman was nowhere near a lynch at all during that day.

Day 3: I WAS GONE YOU ASS. Ugh.

Day 4: UN was really fuckin scummy and you voted him for the same reasons.

Day 5: I like how you call it “most damning” when you yourself think Benmage is a likely scum. Day 5, I said that I was willing to vote GreyICE but also thought Benmage was equally viable given that I blocked him. So, we had two people blocked.

Also, some other things. Given that my actions is a Day ability, I highly doubt you actually blocked me. Also, I got a result from targeting Benmage, and it was the same as the result Day 5. That being “TOO INTIMIDATING TO GET CLOSE,” but Vi says that the statement refers to a failed neighborize, NOT roleblock. And roleblocking a roleblocker always has some sort of complicated issues with it.

So yeah, no.

Also, its pretty obvious you aren’t Sanaki, else Vi wouldn’t have “killed” her off.

Scum is Benmage, which is why there was no kill.

vote:Benmage

[Benmage]

How does me being scum make sense with the no kill again?

[Tierce]

You were blocked two nights ago and last night, etc.

[ToastyToast]

Oh, and tonight because I blocked him again

[Alchemist]

-They would if it would clear them

(cough Alchemist cough)

-I said that I was 100% willing to vote and lynch GreyICE. I still think Benmage is scum and was an equally viable lynch, and so I voted him temporarily to see GreyIce defense. I didn’t have to vote GreyICE, because enough other people agreed he was scummy.

Only a fool or mafia would hint I'm scum at this point.

Umm, it makes plenty of sense and isn’t silly.

No it doesn't. Not protown to not submit multiple actions. Sorry.

Not true. Nexus posted what? 3 times? I posted plenty, and have never been prodded. I’ve continued posting throughout the game, whether or not I was prompted to do so. Saying so is a complete lie. If prompted, I'll say more--thats the only way your statement is close to the truth. It may not be as long or as aggressive as you’d like, but that's not really how I play. I’ll be active when I want to be. And yeah, I’m a defensive player. Also typical threat is typical.

You're contradicting yourself here. First you disagree with the sentiment that you've only posted when prompted, then you go on to justify saying you're a "defensive player".

Also, its pretty obvious you aren’t Sanaki, else Vi wouldn’t have “killed” her off.

Hahahahah. I'm not Sanaki now? That sounds like something Grey would say. Mad much?

GG