Mafia Behind the Maiden (Game over!)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

SpyreX, why weren't you surprised at the color of the non-implosion flips?

Shoulda brought more priests, or some babies:

19. Oversoul - Leanne, Innocent Princess of

Serenes

,

Apostle's Army

- Collapsed Day 1.
20. Quilford - Tanith, Demoness Guardian of

Begnion

,

Apostle's Army

- Plummeted Day 1.
10. implosion - Laura, Ordinary Cleric of

Daein

,

Daein Resistance

- Annihilated Night 1!
28. Wyrd (Fate + Nuwen hydra) - Kieran, Patriot Paladin of

Crimea

,

Apostle's Army

- Exploded Night 1.

Also, looking at this, I find it perfectly possible that Vi has a country cop (because it's Vi--straight cops are almost non-existent in Vi games). Wouldn't be surprised to see false positives and negatives, as I very much doubt that all the scum will be from

Daein

itself--they might all be from the

Daein Resistance

, but alliances, traitors to either side and whatnot.

By the By, since I'm basically just full claiming right now. I can confirm the above is true.

All of it.

[Katsuki]

VOTE: SPYSPY

[Gammagooey]

oh actually yeah this would probably also explain the entire "no nation" thing from spy too wouldn't it.

spy doesn't want to claim a nation to avoid nation cop since they'll get no result
claims "green" because he thinks its town
oh woops thats my nation

so uh yeah let's do this.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, I have 1 more bit of information about my claim that pertains to the whole false positive/false negative thing. I'll keep it to myself for the moment unless people think it's worth saying.

And by people I mean Tierce and Glork.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, I have Vi confirmation I can say this about my SpyreX result:

I "wasn't able to make out who they were."

[Hinduragi]

Claim time.

Unvote; Vote: Spyrex

If the false positive/false negative actually has an effect on what these results are and we're about to lynch with them possibly factoring in, you should claim it. Otherwise, if it's explicity confined to your role and you can work it out by yourself and relay confirmed true results, it doesn't matter.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Claim time.

Unvote; Vote: Spyrex

If the false positive/false negative actually has an effect on what these results are and we're about to lynch with them possibly factoring in, you should claim it. Otherwise, if it's explicity confined to your role and you can work it out by yourself and relay confirmed true results, it doesn't matter.

It doesn't effect any of the results at all, it just confirms that there will be false positives/negatives in the game.

[Tammy]

LLD - Why did you investigate Spyrex when you thought he was town?

Hindu - Did you find out if you really would die if I left? Can you unattach yourself from me in that case. I don't want you to die.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD - Why did you investigate Spyrex when you thought he was town?

Hindu - Did you find out if you really would die if I left? Can you unattach yourself from me in that case. I don't want you to die.

It's funny because you believed I thought he was town.

[Gammagooey]

It doesn't effect any of the results at all, it just confirms that there will be false positives/negatives in the game.

Heeeeeey guys if you're from daein but you have the town win condition this is pretty much your last chance to claim it before getting investigated gets you insta-noosed.


although i do think that scum not from daein is way more likely than daein-millers.

[Tammy]

LLD - Why did you investigate Spyrex when you thought he was town?

Hindu - Did you find out if you really would die if I left? Can you unattach yourself from me in that case. I don't want you to die.

It's funny because you believed I thought he was town.

That's cool.

[Tierce]

Nnnngh tempted to say that's because he's laguz, but I don't see why pretty much half the game wouldn't be able to be identified via nation cop when there's already a likelihood of false positives/negatives. And yes, I believe LLD's claim. In Mafia with the Kitties, there was a town name cop, created to unravel fakeclaims (and one of the scum had a fakeclaim with the same name, different character. Tricksy Vi). Vi loves to mess with this kind of stuff that deals with claims and not definitive results like sane full cops.

This makes DDDP even more likely to be town--it seems a bit much of an elaborate setup with SpyreX for potential little gain. More like SpyreX tripped and DDDP reached the same conclusion I did.


I just have a soft spot for Spyspy and DAMN YOU WHY DID YOU HAVE TO BE SCUM (thanks for killing Shmu btw).

[Hinduragi]

Your discretion as far as I'm concerned, then, LLD.

I'm pretty sure I die. I don't 100% know but we'll find out. Also, it's a one-shot action that can be used at any time. There is no given period to use it in. If I had a 2-day delayed vig shot, I took it on N1, and found out on D3 that it was headed at our beloved princess, I can't just cancel it. At least, that's how I see it. It's like you using your ability then Vi processing it and you going "wait, I take it back".

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Nnnngh tempted to say that's because he's laguz, but I don't see why pretty much half the game wouldn't be able to be identified via nation cop when there's already a likelihood of false positives/negatives. And yes, I believe LLD's claim. In Mafia with the Kitties, there was a town name cop, created to unravel fakeclaims (and one of the scum had a fakeclaim with the same name, different character. Tricksy Vi). Vi loves to mess with this kind of stuff that deals with claims and not definitive results like sane full cops.

This makes DDDP even more likely to be town--it seems a bit much of an elaborate setup with SpyreX for potential little gain. More like SpyreX tripped and DDDP reached the same conclusion I did.


I just have a soft spot for Spyspy and DAMN YOU WHY DID YOU HAVE TO BE SCUM (thanks for killing Shmu btw).

Tierce, I know my character very well.

If SpyreX was from Laguz, I feel like this character would know. Or at the very least, it wouldn't make him investigation immune to me.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

#flavorspeculation

[Tierce]

Also, I have 1 more bit of information about my claim that pertains to the whole false positive/false negative thing. I'll keep it to myself for the moment unless people think it's worth saying.

And by people I mean Tierce and Glork.

I'm fine with not going into detail. I know that I had a game as scum in which town not completely fullclaiming nearly screwed us over several times, so I'd like them to have that nervous doubt here. I believe you, I believe your current results, I'm good to go.


PEdit: Good enough for me.

[Hinduragi]

Fuck the claim. Run Spyrex into the ground and hammer long before he even reads the thread. I want to be on his wagon when he's scum for once. Ive never been able to read him for shit and this is sweet sweet justice.

[Tierce]

He has pretty much given us license to lynch the slot, so.

(And I feel you there. Was reading along Mafia in the Backroom and didn't see it coming, even with obv trying-to-get-LLD-out-of-the-fire-D1. And I still have bad memories of Videogame uPick even without playing in there. ...and then Taking the Hobbits to Isengard Mafia. I adore SpyreX, but I always read the tricksy Ur-Quan as town. >_<)

[Gammagooey]

going to watch EXPLOSIONS

back later

(AMERIKA)

[Vi]

Vote Count XXX:

Mia
Debonair Danny DiPietro (L-6) ~ Nikanor, GreyICE, singersigner, MaguaofIllusion, ToastyToast, Benmage
SpyreX (L-6) ~

kanyeknowsbest,

Lady Lambdadelta, Gammagooey, kanyeknowsbest, Tierce, Katsuki, Hinduragi
UberNinja (L-7) ~ SpyreX,

Tierce,

Magister Ludi, Glork,

Hinduragi,

Teleporting Speed Hippos,

Lady Lambdadelta,

Alchemist,

Katsuki, kanyeknowsbest

kanyeknowsbest (L-11) ~ Debonair Danny DiPietro
Nikanor (L-11) ~ danakillsu
singersigner (L-11) ~ Tammy
Tierce (L-11) ~ UberNinja

Lady Lambdadelta (L-12) ~

Gammagooey

Not Voting:

Rhinox,

Katsuki

--With 22 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

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[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

ARE YOU SHITTING ME?

DO I HAVE TO SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU?

I INVESTIGATED SPYREX LAST NIGHT.

I AM A NATION COP.

I GOT THE SAME RESULT UBERNINJA DID.

Please explain how a "no result" on SpyreX on N2 is a functional guilty.

[Glork]

ARE YOU SHITTING ME?

DO I HAVE TO SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU?

I INVESTIGATED SPYREX LAST NIGHT.

I AM A NATION COP.

I GOT THE SAME RESULT UBERNINJA DID.

Please explain how a "no result" on SpyreX on N2 is a functional guilty.

I can't believe I'm agreeing with DDD, but I would like to know this as well.

This isn't when I attacked you after no-kill overnight, and you decided I was scum, and not a bulletproof vig who got targeted, LLD. Is it?

[SpyreX]

HAHA TOO SLOW

I'm Lethe. The stupid cat.

In a world with dragons, powerful wizards, sweet ass centaur knights, and millions of versions of badassery I am a stupid, stupid cat.

Meow

ALSO YOU READY FOR THIS SUCKERS

I'm vanilla.

Carry on. Remember what I said a page or so ago. ACTUALLY DO THOSE THINGS.

Thank you for setting me free.

@Hindu:

I was going to mention this but it wasn't this game directly that meant it was time for a break. However, this one is really being the poster child for it. So, freedom.

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P-Edits: Its obvious that either I was screwed with by scum (town would have said something) or this is at least in part a smoke and mirrors. Regardless considering the nature of the tracker claims and nation cop = nik is town I want them both dead.

[Tammy]

^^^This makes sense. I remember him talking about hoping to get something after I talked about getting something after Shmu's death.

[Glork]

Well, one of {UberNinja, SpyreX} is probably scum.



I want UN to explain why he chose each of his targets.
I also want to know why he kept asking at start of D2 about multiball, and never breadcrumbed the result of Duplicity targeting a dead player.