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Post Post #3350 (ISO) » Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:22 pm

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Nah, it's pretty evil even as is due to the chance that the weak player got killed rather than died due to their weakness.

For bonus points, design a setup with a highly variable number of nightkills (50% vig, even-day SK, multiple-of-3 day fourth party…)
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Post Post #3351 (ISO) » Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:49 pm

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A player detected by a detective is more likely to be scum than a random other player. Interesting role.
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Post Post #3352 (ISO) » Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:53 pm

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Not sure whether this belongs here or in Best, but I'm a Worst junkie, so:

You are a
townie who is never wrong
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(Secret Worstness: if there's an even number of players, the resulting recalculation of the lynch threshold will cause the townie to die anyway. And it's also useless in lylo.)
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Post Post #3353 (ISO) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:59 am

Post by mafia-n00b »

Standard mini setup.
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Post Post #3354 (ISO) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:14 am

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Doesn't that just make it impossible for people to play to their win condition?
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Post Post #3355 (ISO) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:16 am

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Post Post #3356 (ISO) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:27 am

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If you require a prod you will be modkilled instead.

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Post Post #3357 (ISO) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:00 pm

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In post 3354, Bricktoes wrote:Doesn't that just make it impossible for people to play to their win condition?


Yes and no... perhaps? It IS worst roles, after all. Besides, once the lack of N/K's start showing up and more dead "scum" are piled up than there should be in the game, I'm thinking stuff might become clearer.
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Post Post #3358 (ISO) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:18 pm

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It's still impossible to scumhunt, because the scum don't know that they're scum, so the game will essentially be decided at random.
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Post Post #3359 (ISO) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:34 pm

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You've still got 3 people who will are scum and will scan as such to cops. Since there's no nightkill, the cop could survive the whole game. Would it help if we made it so that the traitors knew they were traitors?
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Post Post #3360 (ISO) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:04 pm

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That doesn't make it any more or less random; with no scumhunting, it's essentially random whether the cop hits scum or not.

Traitors knowing they are traitors would definitely help, although that'd kind-of ruin the point of the setup.

Also, it doesn't meet the site's definition of Mafia in either case (there's no informed minority).
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Post Post #3361 (ISO) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:13 pm

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In post 3360, callforjudgement wrote:Also, it doesn't meet the site's definition of Mafia in either case (there's no informed minority).


Simple, add one guy who knows the whole setup and has a survivor wincon. Post restriction: can't talk about the setup, even impliedly
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Post Post #3362 (ISO) » Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:12 am

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You are
Blind to the Truth
. If you were on the lynch wagon of someone who flipped town, you must continue acting as though that person was scum.

For example, if you lynched
John
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Post Post #3363 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:02 am

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In post 3362, saulres wrote:You are
Blind to the Truth
. If you were on the lynch wagon of someone who flipped town, you must continue acting as though that person was scum.

For example, if you lynched
John
, every time you refer to someone as probable scum you must refer to them as "John's scumbuddy." If John was a neighbor you must act like his neighbor partners are likely town because he flipped scum, so you won't vote for them. If he flipped mason and someone else claimed masonpartner, you must vote for that person because he is clearly lying. Etc.

Survivor wincon would make it truly Worst.
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Post Post #3364 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:10 am

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Just claim in your first post that you get a post restriction every time you're on a lynch wagon.
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Post Post #3365 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:27 am

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You are
Really Not a Team Player


You may not join a wagon, only start them (like a Hipster). In addition, if anyone joins a wagon you're on, you must leave it.
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Post Post #3366 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:01 am

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Voteless (insert alignment here), except at 3p lylo (where another player can hammer with your vote before you have time to unvote).

EDIT: Huh, that's actually pretty balanced for a negative utility role.
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Post Post #3367 (ISO) » Tue Jul 03, 2012 10:59 am

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You are an
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Post Post #3368 (ISO) » Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:23 pm

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Random one (not very good but oh well):
You are
Hungry


You have 3 pieces of food in your pantry, and every since the gunshots started going off in the night, you've been too scared to stock up more.
Every night, you will attempt to eat some food. If you are targetted with a night action, however, this action will fail.
If you go for 3 nights in a row without eating, you will die of hunger.
You win with the town

Put this in a role-madness mini :P
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Post Post #3369 (ISO) » Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:55 am

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I hope this one hasn't been done but I think it might have been deleted by the crash:
You are the Village Idiot. You win if you are put at L-1 Day 1 and are not lynched at any point in the game.



You are the Hypnotherapist. There is serial killer around and only you can rehabilitate him. You can target a player at night to cure his psychopathy, which will turn him into a vanilla townie. You can only target someone once. If you target someone who isn't a serial killer he will become one. You win if you rehabilitate the serial killer and any serial killers you create are dead, but only if you are alive WHEN this condition is fulfilled.


More bastard alternative:
You win if you rehabilitate the serial killer and die or survive endgame(without a scum victory) with no other serial killers around. You must use your ability each night.
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Post Post #3370 (ISO) » Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:21 am

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VI is pretty easy to win with.
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Post Post #3371 (ISO) » Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:12 am

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VI is considerably easier if there's a vig in the game; if you're scummy enough to hit L-1, then you become a likely vig target.

I'm trying to work out whether it's wiser to claim it or not. The main problem is, town has no obvious incentive to help you win, and both town and scum could plausibly fakeclaim it, so you'd be quite likely to not be believed on top of that.
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Post Post #3372 (ISO) » Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:15 am

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It may be best to claim some kind of town-sided variant? Assuming it comes up as innocent, it should be undetectable.
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Post Post #3373 (ISO) » Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:26 am

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Actually, I'd claim so I become an NK target for scum, helping town.
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Post Post #3374 (ISO) » Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:08 am

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You are
Blacklisted
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