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Tierce Cache Me If You Can
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UberNinja Jekyll and Hyde
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Nikanor is ALWAYS scum.
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Duplicity Goon
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In post 1982, SpyreX wrote:Duplicity, since you're way more active than I am - wanna do a quick runthrough on how many of them he actually uses the words town or scum in his reads?
Sorry, got caught up in something else and forgot. Will do it in the morning if Regfan or someone else doesn't beat me to it as I've got to sleep.In post 1987, Duplicity wrote:SpyreX, I'll message Shift to do it, I'm heading of to catch a bus and won't be on for most of today.
Still liking our Nexus vote though, especially after his last post.
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Tierce Cache Me If You Can
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VOTE: Nexus
UberNinja, seriously, cut the fluff. I don't care if you think you're being helpful in some manner by attracting attention to yourself. Don't. You don't know how to deal with pressure as town, and this game is bigger than just you. Don't be a distraction. We don't care how much you miss the people at SoL or how good you are at playing with them at FtF. Cut it in this thread, the blue number mechanic is likely not to deal well with those shenanigans. Vi games are too unforgiving for that.-
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ToastyToast Mafia Scum
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Hindu wrote:LLD is pretty obviously town. I got that read a while back when I was looking into who to vote. On the surface she's excellent but then you read the posts and suddenly you go "aw fuck I suck at this game".
How is LLD obvtown? I understand town but what exactly did she do to get such a positive read from you.
In other news, I'm 2 for 2 on scum and quite proud it."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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ToastyToast Mafia Scum
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Duplicity wrote:I found DDD's conversation with SpyreX a town-tell, perhaps not as strong as most of my other town-reads but still fairly strong.
Similarly, where can this conversation be found?"A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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Hinduragi Jack of All Trades
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First posts in the game come in hardcore defending Tammy, a pretty easy lynch at the time. Goes in to TAMMYS wagon during that and says "prob 2 scum here" ON TOP of the defense. Next post is actual scumhunting. Goes in on next post saying something's town. This is literally post after post of pure content just for the opening posts. Within a 30 minute window. Spyrex calls her scum and she basically tells him to go fuck himself. After that, she went inactive. 1243 is pretty much an easy-town read unless she would gambit on something like that. And I don't see LLD as that type of person when it comes to a particular gambit like that. If you look back, she pretty much started the Oman wagon purely on rage.
Now, if you can even come up with something remotely scummy aside from "implo vote" or "deal with spyrex on tammy" please entertain me with it. However, I highly doubt it's comparable to any of this.First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.-
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Vi Professor Paragon
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Mini Vote Count (16):Micaiah
Nexus (L-7) ~ Tammy, Duplicity, Gammagooey, danakillsu, Glork, Tierce
GreyICE (L-11) ~ Katsuki, Alchemist
Oman (L-11) ~ SpyreX, Magister Ludi
Teleporting Speed Hippos (L-12) ~ Hinduragi
Magister Ludi (L-12) ~ Teleporting Speed Hippos
Katsuki (L-12) ~ MaguaofIllusion
UberNinja (L-12) ~ Lady Lambdadelta
Gammagooey (L-12) ~ UberNinja
SpyreX (L-12) ~ Oman
Debonair Danny DiPietro (L-12) ~ ToastyToast
danakillsu (L-12) ~ Debonair Danny DiPietro
Alchemist (L-12) ~ GreyICE
Not Voting:dramonic, Avenging Angel, Nexus, Nikanor, singersigner,Tierce
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Gammagooey Glad Hatter
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I demand death and blood.
nexus vote is still superfine
oman vote is fine too
katsuki is like 90% town just for schmugen's last post before she died about counterclaiming masonizers, moi is probably town because of it too
but yeah i'd be pretty happy to just start murdering anything that isn't posting at this point and deal with the rest later.-
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Glork Burdened by Proficiency
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Yeah, I'm not so much interested in a Katslynch anymore.
Tierce, if you get the time, could you update your D1 VCA with the Shmu-flip? There are ~things~ that need checked.-
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Glork Burdened by Proficiency
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Well, a quick look at the VC list suggests:
Nexus still good a good lynch.
Toasty not scum.
TSH slightly less likely to be scum.
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Lady Lambdadelta She/FaerRise of the PhoenixShe/Faer
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Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,click here.
If you wish tospeak to one of us, we are Niamh, Rhiannon, Rhea, Aisling, Saoirse, Selene, Aoife, Fírinne, Aurélie, Lyra, Airna, Fiadh and Laoise.
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Glork Burdened by Proficiency
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LLD, move your vote somewhere more useful? If UN continues to be this much of a distraction, we'll vig him.-
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Lady Lambdadelta She/FaerRise of the PhoenixShe/Faer
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In post 2037, Glork wrote:LLD, move your vote somewhere more useful? If UN continues to be this much of a distraction, we'll vig him.
Right. Nexus or Oman? I'll gladly kill the useless sack of nothing that is Nexus, but the Oman lynch would be sweet vindication.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,click here.
If you wish tospeak to one of us, we are Niamh, Rhiannon, Rhea, Aisling, Saoirse, Selene, Aoife, Fírinne, Aurélie, Lyra, Airna, Fiadh and Laoise.
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UberNinja Jekyll and Hyde
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Glork Burdened by Proficiency
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Nexus. Shmu was first on Alchemist D1, Nexus was 5th. If that wagon was remotely scum-driven, it was Shmu+Nexus.-
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Duplicity Goon
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@Spyre I'm pretty sure you noticed and that's why you asked but most of Shmu's wall he was extremely vague and I'm kind of disappointed we let him get away with that (Ex. His reads on you and Tammy), the only ones he really explicitly stated were:
3.DDDP- I feel a bit of your pain with large themes, but I hope you show up sooner rather than later.Slight townread on DDDPfor giving no shits about scum win condition.
7.Glork- Please don't quit the site. I think little else needs saying about this slot.Anyone thinking Glork scum would require a Glork/Tierce wombocombo scum gambit to make their reasoning work [Glork town], and then we could declare mafiascum over and move to browner pastures.
8.Haze-Middle of the pack null.This started smelling like Haze revving up the bus for Toasty, but the reasoning became more inquisitive and diggy.
14.MoI-Townread. Very unafraid to take the ugly, questionable stances/arguments and drag them to the forefront.
17.Nikanor- Other than the case on Alchemist and a touch of Oversoul defense, all posts/cases revolve around meta. Tierce finds the cat's meta cases somewhat acceptable, and I generally defer to Tierce regarding meta.Nulltown?
I'm kind of hesitant about including the next two as by the end of them he wins up not taking a stance either way, but it gives solid examples of the vagueness of most of his reads.
23.SpyreX- His answers to the pressure put on him by various sources (UN, MaguaoI) have been satisfactory, but only just.I want to call it clear town, but it's not there enough.Remember when I was talking about LLD and I said I hate vote trade deals? I dislike proxy votes too. Giving up your vote is like putting down your pistol in an Old West duel. Spy is correct that this game needs blood. It's pretty bloated already, I can't imagine how bad it would be if the lurkfolk actually tried.
24.Tammy- The personality irks me when someone flips the raeg switch, but the concepts presented seem solid.The town parts of the ISO that stand out are recent, the analysis of the LLD vote deal with Spy and the acceptance that meta is a thing around here and the effort to go to her old home, dig up all kinds of games and do analysis on them. Theearlier parts of the ISO kind of blur together, but I think I understand where the idea of voting Tammy early came from.
25.Tierce- Like you needed an excuse to go drinking, that's most likely the biggest lie you've told this game. (Note. If you are actually an alcoholic, I beg your pardon.) That said, the reaction to the fake dayvig seems natural enough to me, had the rage stopped early I might have thought scum.Town up and down, but I'll agree with Tammy here, meta is useful but the whole 'What would Katsuki do' argument makes me slightly ill. It isn't everything. I want to hear more on why you think MaguaoI is scum.
27.UberNinja- *sigh*Crappy attitude, small townlean.I don't think Toasty's initial post was bad enough for scumninja to rev up the bus so soon, mostly. Disinterest level is dildos, cases instead of reflexive outbursts would be nice. Do you still think Tierce is scum after the whole Oversoul thing?
And in later posts:
@Toasty - I havetwo mostly solid scumreads and one decent scumread [Referring to Toasty, Ludi, and Singer], yes.
As forDuplicity, yes I do have atownread.
His reads mostly just sheeped popular opinion of the time and I honestly don't really think we'll get much more out of his ISO. Going through his posts nothing has really changed in my reads other than a better chance that Ludi is town, hence why our vote is elsewhere. If anyone wants to go through all of the reads he implied (Ex. Gamma townread) just look at his Scum to Town list, I don't really find it worthwhile to list all of them out again.
However, the fact that he repeatedly express distaste with the number of lurkers but doesn't vote any of them except for Quilford strengthens my belief there's scum there and it really feels like he was attempting to tread lightly on that front, particularly with this where he never follows up with a vote despite posting twice more before his death:
Shmugen wrote:I can go for a lurker lynch if Ludi isn't going to get the axe. Oman, Nexus, Katsuki, take your pick.
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SpyreX POWERFUL WIZARD
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Nah I wanted the ones specific. Thanks for that.
The standouts in that mess when you consider the game at that point AND with so many others being in the slag are:
DDD, Haze, Nik, UN.
(I think that MoI read is nonsense but we'll leave that for later especially considering his vote).
That group not actually standing out much and getting a clear stance is suspect. The one *gasp* that stands out the most is Haze - there's no real reason to say they are absolutely middle null unless you're not committing as scum but feel the need to have a full list.
Also, call it gut but:
Oman, Nexus, Katsuki
There's 1 in here too. Chances of it bein Kat are by far lower than the others.-
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If you asked me which one of Oman or Nexus was more likely to flip scum, I'd say Oman by a margin.
However, if you asked me if both of them need to die regardless of eithers flips I'd breakdance spittin bullets with my fat moves-
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