Mini 332 - Camp Scum Lake - Mod Abandoned

[Smashy]

I guess we're lynching yellowbounder and investigating CDB/me tonight?

Unvote, Vote yellowbounder

[ChannelDelibird]

Unvote, Vote: yellowbounder

serinah's Vote: yellowbounder

At this point, I trust yellow over CD. And serinah's proxy almost convinces me he's town.

If you trust YB over me...why are you voting for him and not me?

@ Smashy: I believe so.

[B Rob]

This is ridiculous! chef and mav haven't posted any flavor for their roles, not to mention that we're in a game with a doc, vig, cop, roleblocker, and 50% doc against one killing group. We get masons, too?

We should be trying to validate this mason claim, not lynching someone with very little to go on. If we lynch chef, and we find out he's telling the truth, then we get a confirmed innocent (mav), but if we lynch yellowbounder and he's town, we get very little.

Come on, guys, think this through. If the mafia target's PBuG (and they will), and my protection fails, then this plan gets us nowhere.

[Smashy]

This is ridiculous! chef and mav haven't posted any flavor for their roles, not to mention that we're in a game with a doc, vig, cop, roleblocker, and 50% doc against one killing group. We get masons, too?

We should be trying to validate this mason claim, not lynching someone with very little to go on. If we lynch chef, and we find out he's telling the truth, then we get a confirmed innocent (mav), but if we lynch yellowbounder and he's town, we get very little.

Come on, guys, think this through. If the mafia target's PBuG (and they will), and my protection fails, then this plan gets us nowhere.

So THAT'S what was missing... Anyways, I can see your points for a chef lynch, but then we wind up back here anyways after confirming Mav. yellowbounder still seems the scummiest to me anyways, and if he turns up mafia then that clears 2 players. Don't forget, we also have a roleblocker on our side that can stop the kill outright, and that's easily used on Mav/chef if yellow is town. Our night actions become much more directed then.

Oh, and one more thing. PBug had better send in a night action

[ChannelDelibird]

I'm leaving on Saturday morning and will have no access for 3 or 4 days. For the next couple of weeks after that I will have reduced access but should still be able to keep up with my games.

[Maverick]

I'm back from my vacation, and just got done quickly rereading the thread. At this point I would be fine with a Yellowbounder lynch, or a CDB lynch.

Unvote: Smashy

due to the fact that Yellowbounder doesn't contribute so it won't be much of a loss and to the fact that CDB plays really sketchy. Like he says the least he can possably say, the perfect amount to where he still contributes but he doesn't add much important info. I think I have mentioned that earlier in the game, actually.

All I can say about me and chef is that we're telling the truth, and though I understand BRob's logic, it will get us nowhere because of the fact that we are telling the truth. In my eyes, knowing that me and chef are confirmed on top of PBug, Serinah, and Warpdragon, we might as well just lynch Yellow, or CDB.

And about there being so many special roles, I just think that is the mod having fun with the game. When I'm modding I know I don't like to just have a few mafia and the rest town with a cop and doc. I like to mix it up and make it fun for everyone, so I don't really see that unlikely but maybe just because I know that I'm the role I say I am.

[Smashy]

[quote="B Rob"]This is ridiculous! chef and mav haven't posted any flavor for their roles[quote]

Want to make B Rob a happy camper?

[chef855]

Im baaack! Well if you don't believe our claims, have the copper investigate one of us. If one of us turn up innocent, I would say that the other is innocent too. Just my two cents. Someone can have the spare penny, because after all it is only a penny for a person's thoughts...

[B Rob]

This is ridiculous! chef and mav haven't posted any flavor for their roles

Want to make B Rob a happy camper?

I guess not.

[chef855]

This is ridiculous! chef and mav haven't posted any flavor for their roles

We have no flavor... We are vanilla masons...

[Smashy]

This is ridiculous! chef and mav haven't posted any flavor for their roles

We have no flavor... We are vanilla masons...

Uh... get in here Mav

[Maverick]

How often do masons have special roles on the side? The only reason masons are special roles are because they have a confirmed innocent that the rest of the town doesn't have, its still a pain (as you can tell) to convince the town of the claims. I dont know if that's what your asking, but do whatever you want to prove us to be masons.. If you want to lynch one of us though, lynch me because it was my idea for us to claim.. but only because I figured you guys wouldn't be stupid and not believe it.

What I think you should do, however.. as far as the town winning goes is lynch someone outside of claims today.. and they will likely be scum due to the odds.. then tonight cop investigate me, mafia will target cop, doc 50% shot of protecting cop and then if the cop stays alive we win.. At this point seems like our best bet, if the cop dies then you'll just have to take our word for it - and if you'd rather not do that then lynch me today.

[Smashy]

*finds a desk*

*headdeskheaddeskheaddeskheaddesk*

When we meant flavor, we meant like 'You are Mason with blahidyblah. You're here blahidy blahidy blah.'

Of course you fill in the blahs with whatever flavor you had.

[Maverick]

Umm.. did u miss where me and chef both claimed masons.. in other words we're the two masons.. we know that each other are innocent..

Either I'm not understanding what you guys want to know.. or ur completely missing our claim.

[Smashy]

We didn't miss where you and chef claimed masons. We couldn't miss any of the extra flavor that came with your roles, because you've yet to post it. Don't be scared to post the extra stuff as long as you don't quote the winning conditions or the entire PM itself.

[TBuG]

Unvote, Vote: yellowbounder

serinah's Vote: yellowbounder

At this point, I trust yellow over CD. And serinah's proxy almost convinces me he's town.

If you trust YB over me...why are you voting for him and not me?

@ Smashy: I believe so.

Err, other way around.

[Maverick]

Well I already said we could talk at night, and that's how I told chef we should claim today. Other than that we have nothing special.. I don't see why your questioning me so much... Either you believe the claim or you don't, so either vote me, or make the right decision and vote someone outside of claims.

[Smashy]

...

Mod: I request a votecount and about 20 desks.

[B Rob]

Nothing is going to convince me of the mav/chef mason claim now. Is there anybody who still believes them?

[TBuG]

I'll decide after I investigate.

[yellowbounder]

I looked back at the thread, and first of all I think that Maverick was on Varian's side of the Rosso Carne/Varian argument.

Also, I found this:

I think it would be a bad idea to lynch Maverick.

Even if he

did

ask to be lynch, how is it any manner of productive to actually do it if you don't think he's scum?

The mason claim certainly makes sense, or at least, they were defending each other. This doesn't rule out the possiblility of them being scum, but the base argument of those two being associated with each other isn't unfounded.

[B Rob]

That's a pretty safe argument, yellowbounder. When are you going to take some risks?

[B Rob]

Also, where is everybody? Can we get some prods, please?

[Smashy]

I'm still in support of a yellowbounder lynch, but I'm very close to switch to your plan B Rob.

[Maverick]

So how is BRob innocent again?