Bastard Mod mafia - GAME OVER!

[Der Hammer]

Im not sure if we should go with Coron. That vote count has proven at least that we can vote for Primate so that was a lie.

[Coron]

alright since no one notices aparently that this is bastard mod and he pretty clearly left himself wiggle room in the wording of the role(which means it's reasonably likely he used it, because it's bastard mod) I guess there is not much I can do other than sort of taunt you guys for being retarded.

Or you could defend your self.

did.

[Masterchief]

*Rereads last two pages* Oh...

[Dur-Galad]

Im not sure if we should go with Coron. That vote count has proven at least that we can vote for Primate so that was a lie.

I don't believe it was ever stated that we can't vote for Primate. Just that we can't lynch him. FWIW.

[Der Hammer]

Im not sure if we should go with Coron. That vote count has proven at least that we can vote for Primate so that was a lie.

I don't believe it was ever stated that we can't vote for Primate. Just that we can't lynch him. FWIW.

Good point.....

Vote:Coron

Not helping his cause.

[Coron]

Good job failing.

[Coron]

Alright guys, I guess you guys really don't get the whole "bastard mod" thing, this sort of setup would be fun if I played with people that understood this is NOT INTENDED TO BE A NORMAL MAFIA GAME. In this game if there is any doubt about anything it is certainly no better than a 50/50 chance that the mod isn't decieving you, for instance, I may be a cop but I seriously doubt my sanity, heck even if in a normal game I'd have been "proven sane" I wouldn't simply assume I was sane, you want to know why? That's the whole point of this game. Everyone is supposed to be expecting bastardly twists EVERYWHERE and the mod is then supposed to be bastardly and it's a battle of figuring out whether the players can figure out where there is doubt and where there is not, trusting the information where there is not but not trusting that where it is.

I'm frustrated that you guys apparently don't get it, if you really don't get it then there really is nothing I can do to defend myself because I HAVE DONE NOTHING OF MY OWN ACCORD TO GET LYNCHED, and my defense against the reason you're running me up defends entirely on you guys getting it, which it seems that you don't so really I stand no chance of not getting lynched, I just want you guys to know you are complete morons if you run me up.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Unvote, vote: Der Hammer

[Masterchief]

Why?

[Coron]

He can't really say why now can he? If I recall correctly he can't talk for the rest of the day.

[Masterchief]

Oh!*slaps head* that's right! Thx!

[Fortify]

no worries I'll fill in for CES.

VOTE CORON

I don't really like his agressive, "You are all idiots if you vote for me!" approach. Sometimes the best defense is a good offesnse? I don't think that applies in this case.

[Primate]

Alright guys, I guess you guys really don't get the whole "bastard mod" thing, this sort of setup would be fun if I played with people that understood this is NOT INTENDED TO BE A NORMAL MAFIA GAME. In this game if there is any doubt about anything it is certainly no better than a 50/50 chance that the mod isn't decieving you, for instance, I may be a cop but I seriously doubt my sanity, heck even if in a normal game I'd have been "proven sane" I wouldn't simply assume I was sane, you want to know why? That's the whole point of this game. Everyone is supposed to be expecting bastardly twists EVERYWHERE and the mod is then supposed to be bastardly and it's a battle of figuring out whether the players can figure out where there is doubt and where there is not, trusting the information where there is not but not trusting that where it is.

I'm frustrated that you guys apparently don't get it, if you really don't get it then there really is nothing I can do to defend myself because I HAVE DONE NOTHING OF MY OWN ACCORD TO GET LYNCHED, and my defense against the reason you're running me up defends entirely on you guys getting it, which it seems that you don't so really I stand no chance of not getting lynched, I just want you guys to know you are complete morons if you run me up.

Quoted for both truthery and to make this post bigger and more noticible.

WE CANNOT TRUST ROLE BASED INFO OF ANY VARIETY!

I will repeat, we should have a proper day, with proper exploration of scumtells, and actual mafia playing and all that jazz. At the end, if Coron hasn't been behaving as well as he should, we vig him.

What is wrong with this plan?! It gives Coron, a good, useful(kinda) player, a chance to redeem himself, and helps us catch a scum.

This is bastard mod mafia. Vis is not likely to throw us a crutch of this power to help us. The only thing making this role believable is the fact that it's bastardly for the

mafia

. And yet all roles so far seem bastardly just for that individual person, not the group as a whole.

I do not heartily endorse this lynch.

[Primate]

Ok.

Scenario 1) Coron gets lynched as townie or mafia. 3 get nightkilled We pursue someone else tomorrow. We lynch them. 3 get nightkilled. we are at x with

8

dead.

Scenario 2) We pusue someone else today. We vig Coron. 3 get nightkilled. We are at x with

5

dead.

Scenario 3) We lynch Coron as an SK. 2 get nightkilled. We go after someone else tomorrow. 2 get nightkilled. We are at x with

5

dead.

So unless you believe Coron to be SK, lynching him is totally the wrong play.

[Primate]

He's at 8 of 9. I reccommend making the first number lower.

[Masterchief]

Can we get a vote count?

[VisMaior]

Here:

Coron 8 (Fortify,CDB,PBug,Thok,glork,MM,Ubertimmy,DerHammer)
Der Hammer 1 (CES)

Wih 17 alive, its 9 to kill!

[Masterchief]

As mcuh as I'd like to get the Hammah, I think we should consider this.

[al_kohaulec]

Ok.

Scenario 1) Coron gets lynched as townie or mafia. 3 get nightkilled We pursue someone else tomorrow. We lynch them. 3 get nightkilled. we are at x with

8

dead.

Scenario 2) We pusue someone else today. We vig Coron. 3 get nightkilled. We are at x with

5

dead.

Scenario 3) We lynch Coron as an SK. 2 get nightkilled. We go after someone else tomorrow. 2 get nightkilled. We are at x with

5

dead.

So unless you believe Coron to be SK, lynching him is totally the wrong play.

This might make more sense if you defined 'x'. If I'm not mistaken, x = Coron dying + us lynching somebody other than Coron + total deaths in night until the following day.

So looking this over, vigging Coron is much better than lynching him, however, do we know if we have a vig in this game?

[Primate]

Ok.

Scenario 1) Coron gets lynched as townie or mafia. 3 get nightkilled We pursue someone else tomorrow. We lynch them. 3 get nightkilled. we are at x with

8

dead.

Scenario 2) We pusue someone else today. We vig Coron. 3 get nightkilled. We are at x with

5

dead.

Scenario 3) We lynch Coron as an SK. 2 get nightkilled. We go after someone else tomorrow. 2 get nightkilled. We are at x with

5

dead.

So unless you believe Coron to be SK, lynching him is totally the wrong play.

This might make more sense if you defined 'x'. If I'm not mistaken, x = Coron dying + us lynching somebody other than Coron + total deaths in night until the following day.

So looking this over, vigging Coron is much better than lynching him, however, do we know if we have a vig in this game?

X is us being in a situation where it is the beginning of a day and both Coron and the next most suspicious suspect are dead.

ChannelDelibird is our millervig.

[al_kohaulec]

Ah yes that's right. In that case I think we should have CD vig Corong, that'll help confirm CD a little more, and in your scenario, give us fewer deaths.

[Coron]

How about we don't kill Coron. Period.

[Primate]

How about we don't kill Coron. Period.

How about Coron helps us catch scum as a payment for his possible survival?

Got any suspects?

[Coron]

If I fail the restriction, I lose my night action for the ensuing night. I already stated this in one of my earlier posts.

Where?

SUPER FoS: Glork

for acting a lot dumber than I think he is for a large portion of this game.

[Fortify]

I will continue to say what I have always said. We should not trust vigs this game. We do not know how they work.