Worst role ideas?

[Sscchhmueptfter]

You are a

Death Godfather

When lynched you flip as VT
[insert the other stuff of a basic goon pm here]

A stronger version could pm the mod each day and chose as which rolename to flip.

[izakthegoomba]

Or how about a 3rd party role that chooses pre-game what it wants to appear as to investigations and flips?

[inspiratieloos]

What would the third party's wincon be?

[Xalxe]

What would the third party's wincon be?

The opposite of whatever he chooses to flip.

[inspiratieloos]

I'll flip as Instant (Sore) Loser.

[izakthegoomba]

Could be survivor, serial killer, or for lulz, jester. Or something else entirely. But for the ultimate prank, ensure the game contain at least one cop, rolecop, follower, and voyeur...

[Sscchhmueptfter]

The idea behind this was a scum claiming cop (with innoncent on scumbuddy), getting lynched and "confirming" his partner this way. That doesn't work too well as a 3rd party.

[Toon Fighter]

In an alt game:

You

had your identity stolen

. You were ready to start the game, but unfortunately, your credit card got stolen and they got your role in this game from the info in there. You must give the moderator your password for the game account and he will control your account for the remainder of the game. You win if you can get it back somehow.

[callforjudgement]

Saw this win condition in an offsite game, and thought it would be perfect for the thread, but had to wait for the game to end first:

You are an

Antisocial Survivor

.

You die if you lose. If at any point you are alive but the game would end if you were dead, you win and everyone else loses.

It doesn't have quite the same problems that regular Survivor has, but it has plenty of its own.

[izakthegoomba]

...how does the "You die if you lose" actually do anything?

[callforjudgement]

It's backwards, I'd meant the usual survivor "You lose if you die" and wasn't thinking straight.

[Ythan]

Name a scenario in which a survivor's death would end the game.

[Ythan]

Is it intended to work at scum v town/survivor lylo?

[saulres]

Name a scenario in which a survivor's death would end the game.

MyLo?

[callforjudgement]

It's intended to trigger with an antisocial survivor win if it's just town + survivor, or scum=town + survivor. (This treats the antisocial survivor as blocking other player's win conditions, which he does, really.) Any situation which would be endgame if the antisocial survivor wasn't there.

[Ythan]

So if you win without taking out the survivor you lose.

[izakthegoomba]

So if you win without taking out the survivor you lose.

Looks like it. Optimal play as Antisocial Survivor is probably to stay quiet until LyLo, claim regular survivor, and lynch a townie with the scum. Scum win... except they don't.

[inspiratieloos]

You auto win in lylo/mylo because your death would mean instant scum win.

[izakthegoomba]

Yeah, but it loses if it dies.

[Ythan]

It says if the game would end if you died, you don't have to actually die. So it's mylo. If the role is unknown it's awful. If it's open, optimal play at times may be to avoid scum lynches in order to prolong the game.

[Ythan]

Better yet, game starts as everyone hunts survivor, then becomes a normal pseudo-randomly balanced mafia game when he dies. Hm.

[callforjudgement]

In the game in question, it was open, and the player with that role had managed to accumulate a couple of nightkills (don't ask), and NKed themself with a janitored flip.

It caused chaos as people tried to figure out wtf had happened. Probably wasn't the best of moves, though…

[Ythan]

That play was directly against the win condition.

This role might not be unsalvageable.

[mafia-n00b]

You are

Incredibly Full of Yourself

. Every post you make must include self-aggrandizing language. You are also a 1-shot vig, which you can use at any point by posting a long (500+ word) essay detailing why you're vigging the person you are and talking about how great you are and how smart you are to have found the scum and why everyone else is stupid for not having seen it sooner. You don't have to worry about pissing people off though, because you're bulletproof and lynchproof! You may not reveal your Post Restriction or your Powers. You win with town.

MODNOTE: Has no actual Post Restriction or Powers; is actually a Vanilla Townie.

[Ranmaru]

Hahaha I like that role.