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Post Post #775 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 10:51 am

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Amrun was your daycop claim serious?
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Post Post #776 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 10:52 am

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Hey if I get lynched can I pick a lynch for tomorrow?
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Post Post #777 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 10:53 am

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^This assumes I flip town.
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Post Post #778 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 10:53 am

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I'm fine with that hammer, even though Moneybags was town. So be it. He wasn't a bad lynch and I think the original impetus was town driven.

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I have an observation to make about the nature of the wagons so far:

I think it's looking increasingly likely there is multiple scumteams at play here due to the speed that wagons are being put through and the amount of scumhunting occurring. The natural thing to do when you are part of a small mafia family is to hunt for the other family - most mafia are able to do this hunting honestly which is makes it difficult to catch scum producing fabricated cases/tells/suspicions as they are real opinions. I suspect this is what is happening and that scum pushing through lynches is an illusion, when it's likely that there are only 5-6 player teams, which makes it incredibly unlikely that more than 1 member from a scumteam is on any given lynch wagon.

Unless we start seeing obvious patterns, I don't think wagon analysis will be very helpful until deeper in the game.

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My lynch list:

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Uberninja (new addition)

Don't really like the way the Milk lynch is shaping up - my gut tells me he is town and he is being taken advantage of. T-Bone is town also. Happy with my vote, but will swap over to SpyreX if others are interested.
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Post Post #779 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 10:54 am

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Hoopla care to elaborate on your scum read on me?

I mean I just played as scum with you, so I find it strange you're misreading me this badly.
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Post Post #780 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 10:55 am

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In post 644, TeChNoWC wrote: Just looked into moneybags, nice scumread. He does nothing but push on wagons, and posts nothing else; no scumhunting, nothing. Just lynch hungry, and at worse, lynch hungry for a handful of people that he has given no indication for as to why they should be lynched.

Unvote
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In post 653, TeChNoWC wrote:Inclined to think Milk might be a better lynch. Moneybags might not be giving reasons and seems to just be picking on randoms that give an appearance of scumminess, and seems like a pretty big non-contributor (plus yeah, buddying with BB is a concern), but Milk is behaving the same way. Gonna check the guys milk is after, but I swear it seems like a bussing tactic. He seems uber convinced Money is scum, and I could think of nothing better for a scum to do at this stage than lynch one of his buddies so he gets chucked in the town pool and forgotten.


Had a change of heart here, eh, but you still managed to keep your vote on money? *

*Also, note, since you thought it might be a bussing tactic, inclined to hear your thoughts about that.
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Post Post #781 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 10:55 am

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Hoopla, I will go with spyrex with you.
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Post Post #782 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 10:56 am

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Explain the SpyreX read too.

Matt you can explain SpyreX-Scum as well. Also why you'd go SpyreX with Hoopla when you're already on me with Hoopla.
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Post Post #783 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 10:57 am

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In post 775, BBmolla wrote:Amrun was your daycop claim serious?


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Post Post #784 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 10:58 am

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I can get behind a Uberninja lynch Hoopla. His last couple of posts were just him claiming he's not going to do anything but troll. We don't need that, trolling is anti-town. I wanted to try and push Matt or Petapan here, but we can't have admitted trolls wandering around unfortunately.

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Post Post #785 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 10:58 am

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In post 727, Amrun wrote:Wait, wait.

Okay, coalitions are dumb. Let's disband them.

Hoopla, I want to join your coalition to disband coalitions.

UberNinja is probably not scum.

p-edit: Also getting town vibes off of BBmolla.

In post 730, Amrun wrote:I'm a day cop.

I have a scumread on UN as I've stated, I'm just waiting to see if this is a legit claim or just a joke.

P-Edit: Stop being me damnit.
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Post Post #786 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 10:58 am

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Matt's still town.

I'm actually fine with being the final lynch if it gets people listening to what I'm saying about policy, getting Milk and UN lynched fast and probably a Hoopla lynch too out of paranoia with more than a dash of spite.
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Post Post #787 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 10:59 am

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I'm still interested in lynching UberNinja. Also, my gut has been telling me SpyreX is town when I see him post, but I haven't really looked much into it.
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Post Post #788 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 10:59 am

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In post 720, UberNinja wrote:Ok, I've done an extensive re-read of the game, and here are my reads on everyone:

Spoiler:
In
this
game? YEAH RIGHT

...admit it, you totally fell for it.


And here are the correlations between possible scum pairs/trios based on my reads:

Spoiler:
The fact that you even
opened
this spoiler speaks poorly to your adaptive learning skills.

On the bright side though, it might say something good about your sense of humor! :cool:

In post 724, UberNinja wrote:STOP BEING A KILLJOY BBMOLLA =[

In all seriousness, I'll probably skim the game at some point and place a real vote.
For now though, there's way too much shit flying around for me to give a rat's ass.


In case anyone missed UN admitting to trolling...here you go. Lynch it with FIRE
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Post Post #789 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 11:01 am

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In post 788, T-Bone wrote:
In post 720, UberNinja wrote:Ok, I've done an extensive re-read of the game, and here are my reads on everyone:

Spoiler:
In
this
game? YEAH RIGHT

...admit it, you totally fell for it.


And here are the correlations between possible scum pairs/trios based on my reads:

Spoiler:
The fact that you even
opened
this spoiler speaks poorly to your adaptive learning skills.

On the bright side though, it might say something good about your sense of humor! :cool:

In post 724, UberNinja wrote:STOP BEING A KILLJOY BBMOLLA =[

In all seriousness, I'll probably skim the game at some point and place a real vote.
For now though, there's way too much shit flying around for me to give a rat's ass.


In case anyone missed UN admitting to trolling...here you go. Lynch it with FIRE


Why would that have anything to do with being scum or not?
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Post Post #790 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 11:02 am

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T-Bone are you policy lynching UN or do you think he's scum
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Post Post #791 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 11:02 am

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In post 782, BBmolla wrote:Explain the SpyreX read too.

Matt you can explain SpyreX-Scum as well. Also why you'd go SpyreX with Hoopla when you're already on me with Hoopla.

I have a null on Spyrex. I've read his games before, most recently Gay Mafia, and when he is town I have townreads on him. I respect spyrex a lot as a player and I think I will probably never have an "Aha!" moment with him where he reads scum. My gut tells me that a null read on spyrex merits a lynch on him.
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Post Post #792 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 11:03 am

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I think he's scum.
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Post Post #793 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 11:05 am

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BBMolla: Initially it was a gut read - I have read/skimmed a couple of other games you've been in, so it isn't a completely baseless gut read. I know you're a savvy, competent scum player, so my gut started solidifying when you continuously dump casual survival-based bluffs like this;

In post 293, BBmolla wrote:Btw, I absolutely gueruntee that if I get lynched the majority of the people pushing it will be scum.

In post 294, BBmolla wrote:
Okay then lynch me.

In post 325, BBmolla wrote:Hey Matt, if I flip town, will you advocate your own lynch?

In post 513, BBmolla wrote:I'm off to a concert, feel free to lynch me, just remember my reads.

In post 776, BBmolla wrote:Hey if I get lynched can I pick a lynch for tomorrow?


Average players probably don't do this as scum, especially to this degree, but I think you're on the level above that where you know all of this is just hot air and people aren't actually going to listen to you, or if they do, they'll think it's town motivated. I think the fact you've hinted at it so much is making me think it's forced.

Just going on tone and behavioural tells (since my wagon analysis is taking a backseat), you've seemed overly jokey/aggressive and insincere. I also agree with Rhinox that a lot of what you've posted has been junk.

Is that enough?
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Post Post #794 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 11:06 am

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In post 786, SpyreX wrote:I'm actually fine with being the final lynch...


Why is everyone doing this?
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Post Post #795 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 11:06 am

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I asked you a question, T-Bone.
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Post Post #796 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 11:09 am

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Well it makes sense I guess, you're just over-estimating my ability.

SpyreX read explanation?

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Because of the unimportance of a townslot as a whole I believe, that's my opinion anyway.
The main reason behind my reluctance to be lynched is because I actually like this game, it's reminiscent of chat mafia, which I feel I'm better at.
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Post Post #797 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 11:15 am

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@Amrun - Because trolling is anti-town.
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Post Post #798 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 11:16 am

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Why am I?

Because this game is still way more fluff than I'm equipped to deal with and I'm not even pretending to put my monocole on and get to serious business for a long, long while.

SO, if my dying actually HELPS accomplish those things sooner than its a gain.
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Post Post #799 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 11:18 am

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In post 766, Trevor wrote:
MattP wrote:There are so many scum this round that they can easily influence (and they will) any attempt to lynch scum. I think a block of five pretty obvious town would actually be effective by this point to counteract this. We should also be looking at wagons that were quickly dissuaded.

One scum joins the voting block. Influences every lynch. no.

you have got to be joking. like one person can influence five other people that strongly, more than once.

the first time they're wrong, they'd lose all credibility.




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