The game of the year: town won!

[TeChNoWC]

Inclined to think Milk might be a better lynch. Moneybags might not be giving reasons and seems to just be picking on randoms that give an appearance of scumminess, and seems like a pretty big non-contributor (plus yeah, buddying with BB is a concern), but Milk is behaving the same way. Gonna check the guys milk is after, but I swear it seems like a bussing tactic. He seems uber convinced Money is scum, and I could think of nothing better for a scum to do at this stage than lynch one of his buddies so he gets chucked in the town pool and forgotten.

In regards to the redFF issue, I think he is town because I have played with him as scum, and his playstyle is quite different. He is contributing a lot more in this game, and actually scumhunting. As scum he just defended himself and took shots at others.

what game was this?

We've only played one other game together, from memory. Ythan's game. I might have generalised a bit, but your style seems vastly different in this game.

IT'S A TELL! LYNCH HIM!

Lol not sure how, or for who. You referring to red's forgetfulness?

Also, assuming Kairyuu (correct if I am wrong, it was him yes?) is most likely town for the whole Governor thing and killing off the mimes, should he be the target of the doc for the first night?

[Hoopla]

My concern in a big game is, there are potentially 10 scum right? Or at least close to. Or maybe even more. Which means it is easy for them to gang up on town, if they so desire.

That's why the mafia will be divided into two or three teams. I suspect two teams of 5-6. It doesn't make sense to have one giant scumteam that can bully through mislynches.

I'm opposed to the notion of a town coaltion - these only work when it's obvious to the majority of players that the people running the show are town. We barely know what sort of game this is, how many scum there are, and what type of scum there are. I don't see how we can reliably make effective enough townreads that we can bank on this early.

And Fritzler definitely shouldn't be the one running it.

[TeChNoWC]

My concern in a big game is, there are potentially 10 scum right? Or at least close to. Or maybe even more. Which means it is easy for them to gang up on town, if they so desire.

That's why the mafia will be divided into two or three teams. I suspect two teams of 5-6. It doesn't make sense to have one giant scumteam that can bully through mislynches.

I'm opposed to the notion of a town coaltion - these only work when it's obvious to the majority of players that the people running the show are town. We barely know what sort of game this is, how many scum there are, and what type of scum there are. I don't see how we can reliably make effective enough townreads that we can bank on this early.

And Fritzler definitely shouldn't be the one running it.

I'm not sure I would feel comfortable with anyone running it. If we were to do it it would need to be a somewhat of a democracy. I'm still not sure how it works in totality, so I can't say whether I like the idea or not, but it does seem somewhat risky.

[T-Bone]

No one can 'lead' it because everyone still has to cast their own vote. It'll work if people are confident in their reads. And it won't if people aren't. The non-contributors could just as easy form a coalition of non-contributors to get rid of those of us who are. The rules allow for a lot of leeway. Really the biggest function of this I suppose it that for a period of time we wouldn't lynch each other until otherwise the need arises. I won't be lynching those 16 people on my town list right now.

I think we're spending too much time on this particular discussion though.

[Fritzler]

And Fritzler definitely shouldn't be the one running it.

I think I would be pretty good. You should check out Random Mafia 2. I was a 2 shot day vig. 50% of the shots were Mafia godfathers. Having a coalition following me would be like being a day vig.

[Hoopla]

Anyone who cannot see that having a coalition in this game is stupid and makes no sense is automatically disqualified from being in charge of one.

[Rhinox]

If we were to do it it would need to be a somewhat of a democracy.

Thats how it would work in practice. No one is really going to be OK with 1 person deciding who we're lynching and then

baaaaaaa~aaa~aa~

. Its more like, this group of people makes the decisions, and you don't lynch from within that group until thats all who's left. Basically steamroll everyone else and hit most of the scum even though you pancake some townies as well in the process - assuming those making up the group are reasonably better than random at figuring out who's town.

pedit: tbone invite hoopla into the club before she ruins all the fun.

[mykonian]

Votecount

moneybags (6): imaginality, TechnoWC, callforjudgement, T-bone, Rhinox, redff
T-bone (5): mattp, theamatuer, Thetrollie, luffy, petapan
bbmolla (2): Hoopla, muffin wednesday
uberninja (2): chevre, BBmolla
rhinox (2): dramonic, Trevor
RedFF (2): YYR, sleepykrew
elmo teh azn (1): zdenek
Milk (1): moneybags
Trevor (1): peregrinev
YYR (1): redFF
Luffy (1): uberninja
Spyrex (1): milk

[Hoopla]

I'm starting a rival temporary coalition dedicated to the destruction of all other coalitions. Upon achievement of goal, we will promptly disband.

Accepting signups (1/10):

Hoopla

[T-Bone]

We're spending too much time on this shit.

[petapan]

no, he isn't. his posts are low-effort garbage inflated with things like useless lists to mask the lack of substance, hope this helps

I agree the lists thing is garbage, but a lot of people present their reads in garbage ways. I think his attempts to foster a voting bloc is town motivated, even though I think that is also pointless right now (and not including the right people). Calling someone scum for those reasons is even lazier than you think T-Bone is being.

i had considered that he was just really bad at posting but my biggest problem with him is that his only consideration for calling people town is "writes long posts" which granted is something some who is Really Dumb might think, but it's also a thing I could see scum doing because they're looking to call people town based on easy criterion without really evaluating them, essentially just cutting corners and only arguing with people they see as weak and it's something i could see myself doing as scum which is why i don't like it

fair point about the voting bloc intentions though, i disregarded it because normally i'd think it kind of null but given the voting mechanics this game it makes a little more sense for someone to want to do that so w/e

UNVOTE:

moneybags vote is okay i guess, he seemed mostly trolly to me but also pretty blatantly not trying, i think by the same critera elmo is worse so i'll go back to that lynch

VOTE: elmo

[petapan]

seriously would like people to conpare moneybags and elmo

i'm probably looking far too much into two prople who are both making rvs-style posts, but moneybags at least seems to have a read on milk and stick with it even if he doesn't explain it where elmo sheeps anything that comes along. feel like moneybags would be worth interrogating more before passing judgment.

[Ellibereth]

Vote: moneybags

[theamatuer]

I'm starting a rival temporary coalition dedicated to the destruction of all other coalitions. Upon achievement of goal, we will promptly disband.

Accepting signups (1/10):

Hoopla

I'll join till T-bone gets rid of his

[Elmo TeH AzN]

50 people.
Expected to make comprehensive posts. Yeah not happening.

[BBmolla]

wtf..

just for you muffin *smooch*

no fucking way am I lynching tbone and not just because I'm in his town block but because he is ACTUALLY TRYING. Too many of you are playing like you think you're hot shit and filling the thread with crap. I take back what I said before about policy lynches there are about 5-10 of you I wish I could nuke right now.

vote bbmolla

looked at the top 3 wagons, this one looks the best. Fucking 62 post iso of fluff in less than 24 hours. No thank you. Please kindly be lynched now.

Please tell me the irony here was intended.

In my last 40 posts, quote the ones that are complete fluff.

[PeregrineV]

If we were to do it it would need to be a somewhat of a democracy.

Thats how it would work in practice. No one is really going to be OK with 1 person deciding who we're lynching and then

baaaaaaa~aaa~aa~

. Its more like, this group of people makes the decisions, and you don't lynch from within that group until thats all who's left. Basically steamroll everyone else and hit most of the scum even though you pancake some townies as well in the process - assuming those making up the group are reasonably better than random at figuring out who's town.

pedit: tbone invite hoopla into the club before she ruins all the fun.

This. I would consider a in-thread masonry with TBone, Rhinox, & TechNow. Future additions pending.

[BBmolla]

I'm starting to get the feeling that sheeping me is a scumtell.

VOTE: Moneybags

[Rhinox]

In my last 40 posts, quote the ones that are complete fluff.

I just scrolled to a random place and started quoting

Spoiler: IF YOU'RE NOT BBMOLLA DON'T CLICK THIS

@izak: Insisting the Red lynch is anything but policy.

Matt come over and hammer real quick

@Matt:

If you claim scum you don't need a doc because you'll have 3-5 people saying that only scum would do that and you will survive.

T-Bone is mime.

I'm off to a concert, feel free to lynch me, just remember my reads.

VOTE: Uberninja

WAIT WUT

ALSO LOL

@myk: Was Chesskid not a mime?

Yes, he was. But he hardly was surviving enough to leave the town now. He has lost though

^No.

[PeregrineV]

If we were to do it it would need to be a somewhat of a democracy.

Thats how it would work in practice. No one is really going to be OK with 1 person deciding who we're lynching and then

baaaaaaa~aaa~aa~

. Its more like, this group of people makes the decisions, and you don't lynch from within that group until thats all who's left. Basically steamroll everyone else and hit most of the scum even though you pancake some townies as well in the process - assuming those making up the group are reasonably better than random at figuring out who's town.

pedit: tbone invite hoopla into the club before she ruins all the fun.

This. I would consider a in-thread masonry with TBone, Rhinox, & TechNow. Future additions pending.

Oh yeah, and Wednesday Muffin.

[UberNinja]

Ok, I've done an extensive re-read of the game, and here are my reads on everyone:

Spoiler:

In

this

game? YEAH RIGHT

...admit it, you totally fell for it.

And here are the correlations between possible scum pairs/trios based on my reads:

Spoiler:

The fact that you even

opened

this spoiler speaks poorly to your adaptive learning skills.

On the bright side though, it might say something good about your sense of humor!

[BBmolla]

UN stop being scum

Could you at least pretend to try to be town

Mimes are dead you don't have any excuse any more

[Amrun]

Oh, God, I don't think I can read all of this. I would say I will catch up, but realistically speaking, I probably won't as it will keep growing at an insane rate.

Fritz - MoS is v/la right now.

dramonic will probably CONTINUE to not post and lurk, so that's a great policy lynch, as is Captain Corporal, as I noted earlier. And Moneybags probably isn't the worst ever, but the other two would be better. I have 0 opinion on any of their alignments at this point.

[T-Bone]

v/la Friday thru Sunday btw. (OH GOD)

UN needs rope next for that post.

[UberNinja]

STOP BEING A KILLJOY BBMOLLA =[

In all seriousness, I'll probably skim the game at some point and place a real vote.
For now though, there's way too much shit flying around for me to give a rat's ass.