WoT Mafia, GAME OVER

[Ghyrt]

I've read to page 12 and will probably finish today.

[mystery meat of doom]

In past games I've played all night-coversations, if recorded, were given to the replacement, or the general gist of it.

[Illumina]

Quick post before I head out: no, greyjoy's claim wasn't made in any joking context whatsoever, to my knowledge. Also, Spamwise, we still need to know why you decided to hold off on Yos yesterday.

[Ghyrt]

Alright, all done. I took notes. Notice that I was thourough day 1 and then sort of got lazy.

• 2 mafia and 1 SK is speculated
- Dark Hounds
- The Forsaken
• Random voting
• Lots of flavor speculation
• Tamuz’s Poem stating why Mr. Flay is scum
• Huge bandwagon on Mr. Flay
• People think rhyming role means Tamuz may be scum
• People wait for Flay to claim
• Flay points out Mmod is simultaneously suspicious of Flay and Tamuz
• FOS: petroleumjelly for changing mind about Flay
• Bascas and Albert FOSed for fishing?
• Broomhead points out that Tamuz doesn’t have strong evidence.
• People discuss Tamuz’s certainty
• Karn starts to look fishy for inconsistencies in voting and discussion.
• Tamuz poem makes more people confident
• Axelrod posts list of scum observations
• BuddyLee suggests Tamuz is mind controlled
• Karn1 claims

Nynaeve, Village Wisdom

• Yamahako thinks Karn1 is lying for several reasons.
• People quickly agree with Yamahako.
• Karn1 is lynched
• Maritya voted for being implicated by Scum
• Mariyta learns that fishing is bad
• People start to discuss Tamuz and his correct accusation
• Tamuz still has to write poems and is under influence of the “dragon”
• Mr Buddy Lee appears scummy
• Seashan discussed
• It is noted that Tamuz is suspicious of Armlx
• Armlx and Mariyta bandwagons compete
• Mariyta claims

Mazrim Taim, Vigilante

• Mazrim flavor doesn’t match
• Spamwise is 100% sure Yos is scum
• Yos gets run up
• Yos claims mason
• Cyan bandwagon
• ChannelDeliberd claims Valan Luca, Doctor
• A whole bunch of flavor discussion
• Mason group comes forward: Spamwise, Yosarian, and Ilumina still alive.
• Long post stating why Yos is scum
• More flavor I skimmed over
• Anymites comes and gets voted for voting Yos2
• More discussion about Yos2

I had a lot of insights about day 1, but they already got addressed. Anyway, Yos2 seems like the play. I'm really not worried about info loss because alignment and roles aren't revealed anyway; if we have more time for discussion won't scum just tell more (hard to disprove) lies?

Vote: Yosarian2

[MrBuddyLee]

More lies is good.

[Yosarian2]

In past games I've played all night-coversations, if recorded, were given to the replacement, or the general gist of it.

Well, that's clearly not true here. Ask the other masons; no coversations have been "recorded" by the mod.

[mystery meat of doom]

Not by the mod, by other players. I don't know about others, but I tend to keep all my night-pms until game's over.

[petroleumjelly]

Sorry I didn't post yesterday, internet was out.

And funnily enough, to address Cyan:

"Elaida Sedai", as SpamWise just claimed, it the new Amyrlin. She also would no longer be referred to as "Sedai". If you are going to use that argument against Illumina, I suggest you expand it to include SpamWise.

Anyways, I am still positive Yosarian2 simply replaced into a situation he could not control. His lynch today does not mean to say he has played badly, simply that I am pretty sure he is scum (now that we have confirmation from two people who night-talked with his predecessor).

I will vote Yosarian2 after MMoD reveals his information, if he still wants to do so.

[mystery meat of doom]

Hm. Should I bother ability-claiming? It's pretty obvious at this point what my ability is.

[petroleumjelly]

Oh, if

that's

your information, you should be fine without claiming today. Good to know. ^_^

Vote: Yosarian2

.

[Fritzler]

lordy, whats the play?

[Cyan]

Sorry I didn't post yesterday, internet was out.

And funnily enough, to address Cyan:

"Elaida Sedai", as SpamWise just claimed, it the new Amyrlin. She also would no longer be referred to as "Sedai". If you are going to use that argument against Illumina, I suggest you expand it to include SpamWise.

Anyways, I am still positive Yosarian2 simply replaced into a situation he could not control. His lynch today does not mean to say he has played badly, simply that I am pretty sure he is scum (now that we have confirmation from two people who night-talked with his predecessor).

I will vote Yosarian2 after MMoD reveals his information, if he still wants to do so.

I suppose it makes it more valid if more than one person has 'name sedai' for their role name. Maybe it's only the town masons in the mason group that are 'xxxx sedai', and the rest have their real names or something. It just seems pointless inconsistent that some would have full names and some wouldn't, there has to be a reason behind it, IMO.

[Gleeman]

7 Yosarian (Tamuz, MMoD, Armlx, MBL, Cyan, Spamwise, Ghyrt)
1 Lordy (Petrojelyy)
1 MBL (Yosarian)

[mystery meat of doom]

Oh, if

that's

your information, you should be fine without claiming today. Good to know. ^_^

Not sure what you mean here. If

that[

refers to my ability then no. I have extra information about OTHER stuff relating to the game.

Unvote

until we get my saying information thing right. Not sure how much it is to lynch, and I don't want someone to speedlynch before we clear this up.

[petroleumjelly]

Hm. Should I bother ability-claiming? It's pretty obvious at this point what my ability is.

Well, it seems pretty obvious that your ability is to collar people. It's up to you whether or not you want to reveal more information than that, because I don't see your role as being a cult.

[mystery meat of doom]

Well it's pretty obvious to me it's not.

[petroleumjelly]

Then it's pretty obvious what you consider to be pretty obvious isn't as obvious as you think. From your actions today, it can be inferred that you are the collarer, since you not only know BabyJesus was collared but also don't want us to get the 'wrong impression' of the collarer.

If you want to reveal information, go ahead and do so.

[Cyan]

I'm inclined to agree with PJ...that seemed like the most logical conclusion(really the only one) that could be drawn from what you said, MMoD. If that's not the case, maybe you should explain it better.

[mystery meat of doom]

It doesn't explain my inquiries on the traitor thing, or the who didn't talk thing.

The clarification was because eventually (if not already) someone would mention his death and the collaring, and I didn't want people to go off saying this is evidence collaring = death, which I guess, in a way leads people to believe I'm the collarer (I'm not)

Info not already known:

Apparently night 2 someone ordered someone else to kill themselves, but they didn't (kill themselves that is).

Night 3 babyjesus was collared not long before he died. Apparently someone (in general, not the person) was found, and I don't like the fact that he was found, but it seems to be good.

Not sure if I should release this, but I know that there are people who can stop, direct and protect from channeling.

This is the one fact I was really hesitant on releasing, but I've basically breadcrumbed it for people who actually have this role and didn't know the specifics, so I guess it's better for the town to know. There are neutrals who can become non-neutrals. See, this was my whole mason-traitor thing I was going on about, but I suppose the neutral in question, if he didn't know he could turn, has figured it out by now from my insistence on the mason-traitor.

Vote: Yosarian

[petroleumjelly]

Woohoo, nice! MMoD, you have just cleared yourself in my eyes.

Frankly, if there are neutral roles who are even

considering

of turning scum, they are out of their minds. The town has this game wrapped up. Convert to the light... for great justice!

About to be lynchedzorz

Yosarian2

Like 90% Sure Good Guys

MMoD (Just cleared himself to me)
Ghyrt/Broomhead (After reading all Broomhead's games, I can't see him as scum, I am willing to trust my gut on this)
PetroleumJelly (Obvobv)
SpamWise (Pretty sure he's a clean Mason)
Illumina (See above)

People Who Seem More Town than Others

MrBuddyLee
Tamuz
Fritzler
Lordy

The LeftOvers

Cyan
Machiavellian-Mafia
Anonymities
Armlx
Bascas

[mystery meat of doom]

Wait, don't get too happy. See, the way it was worded is ambiguous. Hm, I need to check wording with the mod so as to not modkill myself.

[Ghyrt]

7 Yosarian (Tamuz, MMoD, Armlx, MBL, Cyan, Spamwise, Ghyrt)
1 Lordy (Petrojelyy)
1 MBL (Yosarian)

Mod

, Yosarian is dead. PJ was on the wagon at this time.

[mystery meat of doom]

Well that was scummy considering there was still things to discuss.

The mod hasn't gotten back to me, so I'll use a "safe" version of what I was going to say.

About the neutrals. The pm was basically worded thus: there are players whose allegiances haven't been decided (neutral) who can indeed be turned to the dark side (there was another word used instead of dark side). Now, it doesn't say that they can be turned to the light side, but its very ambiguous. It sorta gives off the feeling that they can be town, but still, I'm not clear on this one, so... best off lynch the mafia before anyone turns to anything.

[SpamWise]

Quick post before I head out: no, greyjoy's claim wasn't made in any joking context whatsoever, to my knowledge. Also, Spamwise, we still need to know why you decided to hold off on Yos yesterday.

I thought the general consensus was that Channel Delibird was the play for the day, so I held off.

[Gleeman]

ghyrt, pj didnt unvote.
mmod unvote and vote means no change in the VC