NY 151: Playground Mafia (Game Over-Mafia Win!)

[Junpei]

^^ good post dv

This post does not add validity to DV's arguments, thus I must assume it is blatant buddying.

It is. Your problem?

That it is a scum tell? I'm also pointing out the flaw in your logic; but I don't know if you noticed.

[Benmage]

Town buddy (and people in every game make a gagillion useless support posts like reds regardless of alignment... You should know this). Note it if you like. But alone its nothing.

[DeasVail]

I'm also pointing out the flaw in your logic; but I don't know if you noticed.

I don't really care to be honest.

[Junpei]

I'm also pointing out the flaw in your logic; but I don't know if you noticed.

I don't really care to be honest.

Then don't quote me and engage me in conversation? Feel free to push fundamentally flawed arguments, I'm just letting everyone else know what I think. Not sure why you even bothered to respond to me if this is your answer.

[redFF]

^^ good post dv

This post does not add validity to DV's arguments, thus I must assume it is blatant buddying.

^^ bad post jp

[The Mini-Librarian]

Hey Jun, how close are we from getting some reads from you?

[Junpei]

Hey Jun, how close are we from getting some reads from you?

I like the sound of your voice; I'll do an ISO of you and post a read later.

I see you have a small ISO though, so I will have to do other people as well I suppose. But you can put down a scum read on redFF now, for whatever it's worth.

vote redFF

as my strongest scum read so far.

[redFF]

aite man

[FakeGod]

man..... 30 pages?

I thought you would have known this when you decided to replace in, which leaves this being a fabricated reaction as the only option I can see.

I signed myself up for replacements awhile ago.

Didn't know this game would progress this quickly.

[drmyshotgun]

Hi FakeGod. What do you mean "Didn't know

this

game would progress this quickly?"

[FakeGod]

Eh, last I checked, this game was like in 7 pages or something.

[Junpei]

Librarian (may I call you that?), why are you no longer worried about scoobys' scumminess?

Why is rack scum?

I guess I just don't see that passion in your posts of a scumhunter (you know what I'm talking about).

[The Mini-Librarian]

Librarian (may I call you that?), why are you no longer worried about scoobys' scumminess?

Why is rack scum?

I guess I just don't see that passion in your posts of a scumhunter (you know what I'm talking about).

-_- not cool...

Scooby hasn't improved his stature in my eyes, but he's not my utmost concern, mainly because I like a rack wagon better and scooby will probably be replaced later. We'll get more reliable info from that person later.

Why rack is scum-

First content post is three questions and a one-liner that do absolutely nothing for the game. These aren't scumhunting questions. The only purpose I can see is to give off the impression of activeness without actually doing anything, a scum trait.

His post #227 is scummy for reasons stated in the bottom section of this post.

I also don't like his utter lack of reasoning for his vote #559. While this last thing isn't necessarily bad in isolation, it just doesn't feel good to me when you consider he's got a large wagon on him. He should be scumhunting harder because of this. Instead he places a vote without reasoning and without trying to convince others to join him.

(and yes Librarian is cool. Abbreviations work just as well.)

[Junpei]

Re: First content post, It was only page four, though fair enough; while I see reason behind each question, I suppose you might not.

Re: 227, while I think your specific dramatization is inaccurate to what I see in my head, I agree that that post is suspicious and could indicate scum-hydra tricks.

Re: Vote in 559, so you would expect scum to not react to pressure?

[Junpei]

Ugh crap, I forgot: Do you think your posts have the passion of a scumhunter?

[The Mini-Librarian]

Re: Vote in 559, so you would expect scum to not react to pressure?

It's more like I expect townie to.

Ugh crap, I forgot: Do you think your posts have the passion of a scumhunter?

I believe I've been clear on who I want dead and that I'm trying to garner reads on all the other players. So I'd say yes.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Sorry, been a tad busy. Catching up now

[Junpei]

It's more like I expect townie to.

Well I'd say that it's important to have a tell which a) Shows lack of town motivation and b) shows presence of scum motivation.

Do you think that this sequence:

max's posts are meh. I mean, extraordinarily meh. I like the idea of lynching this guy.

During a summation of reads, notes his discontent with Maxous

VOTE: Maxous to draw sufficient amount to the guy.

Votes Maxous to put more pressure on him

My max vote makes perfect sense. Look at his damned posts. They are nothing pretending to be something. And he's been ignored despite this. Why not pick him out?

Defends his Maxous vote, all of this coming within 5 posts of each other.

Shows more or less scumhunting passion than:

Holy fuck. I want Rack to die a painful death immediately. (their first content post is easily the scummiest thing in thread)

I also would like scooby to die. (confirm without content? :/)

Expresses big desire to lynch Rack

Thirdly, I want Rack dead today anyway.

Reiterates desire to lynch Rack

VOTE: rack

Votes Rack once able to

This post, and all posts up until now, are me, Head A.

Head B is supposed to be coming along soon to extract us from the shitstorm I've managed to cause.

And no, we aren't revealing our heads, so get over it.

Head A. I want reads now.

Asks Rack for reads.

The only real difference here is that you act more aggressive. Do you think that aggressiveness then is an indicator of towniness? Do you think that aggressiveness then is not a personality trait but rather a token of alignment?

I will say the following: Psyche's first two posts seem contrived, and your aggressiveness seems out of place.

[The Mini-Librarian]

The only real difference here is that you act more aggressive. Do you think that aggressiveness then is an indicator of towniness? Do you think that aggressiveness then is not a personality trait but rather a token of alignment?

I will say the following: Psyche's first two posts seem contrived, and your aggressiveness seems out of place.

I see what your saying. I guess my issue with Psyche's play was more that when asked for reasons why Max was scum he said "look at the iso".

Also, as I said in #315, I currently have no read on Psyche. (still hasn't changed :/) Basically, I'm fairly certain what originally caught my eye was his playstyle that I mistook for scumtraits.

[mastin2]

I'll be honest with you all--in this game, I feel a little bit out of my league. I'm having difficulty getting reads, but not because of apathy (that'd imply I didn't care; I do, just have difficulty locking down reads, as they waver from town to scum and back). A lot of players here are of a different caliber than I am, be it better (like GreyICE) or worse (VIs), making it harder to relate. I'm not in my element, compared to other games where I do nicely.

It almost made me want to replace out--almost. The reason I haven't is that I realized that's exactly why I wanted to keep playing in this game in the first place: because if I'm never pushed outside my comfort zone, if I'm always in my element, then I'd stagnate and never grow. Only by being in a place where I'm WEAKER than most people would I stand a chance of actually getting better. By being in a place where I feel uncomfortable, weaker, and overall kinda useless, I can try to push myself.

I'm going to try and reset everyone to null, and see what happens when I take a look at the game again.

[Junpei]

Mastin, stop being such a drama queen; It's suspicious that you are playing a massive noob card while simultaneously backing away from all of your previous reads (and thus, content).

[GreyICE]

I'll be honest with you all--in this game, I feel a little bit out of my league. I'm having difficulty getting reads, but not because of apathy (that'd imply I didn't care; I do, just have difficulty locking down reads, as they waver from town to scum and back). A lot of players here are of a different caliber than I am, be it better (like GreyICE) or worse (VIs), making it harder to relate. I'm not in my element, compared to other games where I do nicely.

It almost made me want to replace out--almost. The reason I haven't is that I realized that's exactly why I wanted to keep playing in this game in the first place: because if I'm never pushed outside my comfort zone, if I'm always in my element, then I'd stagnate and never grow. Only by being in a place where I'm WEAKER than most people would I stand a chance of actually getting better. By being in a place where I feel uncomfortable, weaker, and overall kinda useless, I can try to push myself.

I'm going to try and reset everyone to null, and see what happens when I take a look at the game again.

Mastin, why am I out of your league?

I fuck it up all the time. Like. All. The. Time.

You do too. We've had our disagreements, but it's not like I'm on some fucking pedestal.

That being said if you vote Shotty we can be BFFs.

[mastin2]

Grey, name a single game we've played together where my reads were even close to as good as yours were. I can't think of any; every time you and I are in the same game, I seem to suck compared to you.

For instance. Shotty has been a townread of mine. I'll take another look, though.

[GreyICE]

Bah I can think of several where they were terribad. That one where you were in the hydra and I thought all the scum were really town, that was terrible. Or the one where I saved the serial killer from getting lynched like he deserved because of BS speculation

I've fucked up a lot.

But in this case, yeaahhh. This is not town shotty. Town shotty has no idea what's going on, so is vulnerable and confused. Scum shotty has no idea what's going on so he's loud and irritating.

OTOH Rack.

Oh Rack.

-_-

COINS
MUST FLIP THEM

Also there's like 24 players in this game, I've got shit all in patience trying to figure out who they are.

[drmyshotgun]

^I must be the easiest one