WoT Mafia, GAME OVER

[ChannelDelibird]

I don't see how Valan Luca could be a Doctor, there are loads of better WoT choices for that. Plus, it really makes no sense whatsoever as far as Luca's character goes. I know that you shouldn't put too much stock in flavor to determine game mechanics, but, Luca being a Doctor makes about as much sense as Nynaeve being a Super-Cop.

I give my target cover in my troupe for the night. I'm not sure flavour-wise how that doesn't make any sense.

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

I'll be going on vacation from june 29th ~ july 9th with very little possibility of internet access.

[Yosarian2]

Eh...not a big fan of lynching the claimed doctor right now. Guess I'll go back to my cyan vote.

unvote:channelDbird

vote:cyan

[Cyan]

It's pretty easy to (false) claim Doctor when the obvious Doctor candidate is already dead, and when role info isn't revealed when people die. It's not a believable claim at all, IMO, even if he did make up some flavor to go with it that sort of makes sense.

[Yosarian2]

Well, it's pretty clear that Nynaeve was a doc; Yamahako basically said as much. The question is, is it probable for there to be two docs in a large game.

[Cyan]

A doc and a back-up doc, maybe. But 2 active docs at once is very hard to believe. Especially in a game that has plenty of room to have alot of variety of roles, etc. Aside from all of that, he didn't claim back-up doc, just Doc. He also claimed to have protected someone Night 1, so he couldn't possibly be back-up doc anyway.

Honestly, given the abundance of major characters in WoT, it's hard to see Valan Luca being in the game at all, considering how minor his role is. It seems more like a safe claim than anything else, to me.

[Illumina]

I don't really buy the role claim. However, it does seem odd to me that he would choose such an unlikely name, especially given his inexperience with the series. Even if he is experienced with the series, it still doesn't make sense, unless he had reason to suspect there was another active doc and didn't want to risk the names overlapping. But as Cyan pointed out, the chances of that are somewhat slim. From what I've read of Valan Luca, a protector role fits enough to be plausible.


That said, the claim was perhaps a little bit early and he does appear to be casting suspicion on Spamwise.

I'm suspicious, but I'm not comfortable giving a vote at this point.

I will put a

FOS

on Cyan, though, for staying on the Yos wagon even after Spamwise decided to hold off (before Yos claimed). I didn't buy your reasoning there.

[Tamuz]

Didn't he say
He protected Mr. Flay
Who died that day?

[ChannelDelibird]

Didn't he say
He protected Mr. Flay
Who died that day?

I protected Flay on Night 1. He died on Night 2.

[Yosarian2]

I'd agree that this claim isn't compleltly convincing. ChanelDbird could very well still be scum. Still, I'm reluctent to lynch a claimed doc without some stronger evidence then what there currently is against him, especally this early in the game.

[MrBuddyLee]

Yos, someone said they're 100% sure you're scum, and yet you're not voting for them. I find that unusual. Do you think they made an error in judgment, or that they're scum?

[Cyan]

I don't see how going to night w/ no lynch is better than lynching someone that seemed scummy enough to get alot of votes, and has a dubious claim at best. The day is going to end very soon, regardless of whether or not CD is lynched. Lynching him seems better than letting him skate for another night.

[mystery meat of doom]

The flavour seems more like untargettable then doc to me. I am hesitant as everyone else is, to lynch the claimed doc. I, however, don't believe that there are two complete docs in this game, and my vote will stay here for now. I really don't have time today to review anything, sorry about that.

[Yosarian2]

Yos, someone said they're 100% sure you're scum, and yet you're not voting for them. I find that unusual. Do you think they made an error in judgment, or that they're scum?

Could be scum, but I don't think scum would come out and say that in that manner about a good guy and attract that much attention to themselves at this point in the game. I think it's more likely a mistake. Either way, it's something to sort out later.

[Yosarian2]

The flavour seems more like untargettable then doc to me. I am hesitant as everyone else is, to lynch the claimed doc. I, however, don't believe that there are two complete docs in this game, and my vote will stay here for now. I really don't have time today to review anything, sorry about that.

Well, the flavor does make some sense; Luca did hide Matt and associates in one of the recent books and probably saved his life in the process. I think he did the same for someone else earlier in the books, but it's been a while since I read the earlier books in the series, so my memory's a little fuzzy on that.

I don't really have a problem with the flavor of the claim. I'm naturally inclined to doubt any "don't lynch me, I'm a doc!" claims, and again it's not common to see two full docs in one game, but I don't think it would necessarally be unbalanced in a large game.

[Gleeman]

As dusk falls there is more peoplecrowding round Channeldelibird than anyone, so they decide to string him up.
"you can't lynch me, I'm Valan luca!" shouts CD
"Uh, yes we can, we're doing it right now, look, this is us, hanging you"
"but ~choke~ I'm valan ~choke~ mordi ~choke~ I hate you al'thor!" CD chokes/splutters
Channeldelibird is dead, a search of his corpse turns up a ruby hilted dagger and a tanished white cloak.
He was padan Fain

Its night 4 - choices by Monday Night 8 pm GMT please.

[Gleeman]

Nightson replaes illumina effective immeadiately.

[Gleeman]

Dawn breaks, mixed news.
Logitifear is found, smothered with the power somehow it would seem. oh joy
but Pookraine is found, well, multilated beyond recognition (go figure, how was he identified?)


The Dead:
Logiticus - Lanfear
Pooky - Morainne Sedai


with 15 living its

8 to lynch

vote etc.

[petroleumjelly]

Uh... I have a question for our

Mod

.

Night Two:

Dawn breaks over the town, the townsfolk gather fearfully, expecting to see a massacre to have occured in the night, not so, but a few deaths none the less.

Mr. Flay is found black swollen and obviously dead, a quick and disgusting search turns up a few items that reveal him to be Mesaana, one of the Forsaken.
Yamahako is found dead without a mark on her body, smothered by the power no doubt. Her long braid marks her as Nyneave.

Dead -
Mr Flay - Mesaana
Yamahako - Nyneave

with 22 living, its 12 to lynch
VOTE!

But here:

The silent Speaker - Vanished night 2 - Verin Sedai
Mr. Flay (more /in than Fritzler ) - killed night 2 - Mesaana
Yamahako - Killed night 2 - Nynaeve

I didn't even notice that TSS was dead/gone (I still had him as being alive in my notes). Could you please change the night-scene to compensate for this? I was rather confused when I saw that 15 were alive and not 16.

[Gleeman]

illumina didnt ask to be replaed, that was my bad, so illumina is unreplaced by ngihtson and playing again.

[petroleumjelly]

Ha, what good timing. We still do need a couple of replacements for this game, Gleeman.

Last Posts

People we need replaced

TheManHimself – June 4 (One month, people)
Broomhead – June 10 (Has been gone elsewhere on the site)

Others Who are Fine

Armlx – June 20
Fritzler – June 21
Bascas – June 22
Spamwise – June 23
Lordy – June 28
Yosarian2 – June 29
Mystery Meat of Doom – June 29
Cyan – June 29
MrBuddyLee – June 29
Machiavellian-Mafia – June 29 (Warned of little absence until July 9)
Nightson/Illumina – June 29
Tamuz – June 29

[Gleeman]

the manhimself, thats who i meant to replae ~slaps forehead~ well nightson knows illuminas role so he can't place i'll casta bout.

[Cyan]

Vote Illumina

.

Admits that CD's claim is probably fake, but, refuses to vote him. Seems like the typical scummy 'I want to look like I'm agreeing w/ the town, but, I don't want to lynch my mafia buddy' strategy, to me.

[ChannelDelibird]

Bah.

[petroleumjelly]

*Huggles Gleeman* It's okay.

Anyways, where was I? Let's take a look at the player roster... I wanted to vote for TheManHimself, but I may as well wait for a replacement...

Vote: Lordy

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I am interested in hearing from SpamWise. I also might have to start poking at Tamuz and MMoD, since both of them also seem to have more information than the rest of the town. I think we should have Yos2 tell us how many more members are in his Masonry, so scum cannot fake to be in it when (if) all the members die.

This no-reveal driving me nuts, I hate not knowing what types of roles are dead and gone.

Also, I am still curious as to the "collars". It seems that MBL is

still

the only person who has had this trouble.