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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Fri Jan 23, 2004 6:08 am

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Alright, -10 points for shayforce an 306 does not pass. It is Stewie's trun, he has until 5:05 GMT January 26th to post a proposal.
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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Fri Jan 23, 2004 7:09 am

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This is almost unfair to PB :evil:
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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Fri Jan 23, 2004 8:09 am

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He did have an hour....I was waiting for him to post for like 10 minutes so I could snipe him. :)

Then I got bored and left.

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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Sat Jan 24, 2004 11:16 am

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I really hate that rule, you know that?
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Mon Jan 26, 2004 3:33 am

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Stewie has until 5:05 GMT today to post his proposal.
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Mon Jan 26, 2004 4:24 am

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PolarBoy wrote:I really hate that rule, you know that?
Really? I don't see why. :)

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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Mon Jan 26, 2004 6:49 am

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Stewie has missed his turn, receiving a deadly strike. Two more and he's out. CoolBot has until 5:05 GMT on January 29th to make his proposal.
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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Mon Jan 26, 2004 7:39 am

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306: Abstentions
  • A. Players may abstain from any vote.
    B. Rule 303 shall be amended to read "Every player is an eligible voter. Any player who does not vote within 72 hours of the first vote cast shall abstain from the vote."
    C. If a player abstains from a vote, then his or her vote does not count for or against the proposal. Further, an abstaining vote does not count towards the required number of yes votes to pass.
    D. If more than 50% of the players abstain, the vote fails due to lack of interest.
    E. If Proposal 306 passes, it shall take the number 307, and Clause E shall be deleted.
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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Mon Jan 26, 2004 7:45 am

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My intention with the second part of Clause C was to ensure that unaminous votes are still able to pass when someone abstains. I believe this is the practice in Parli Pro, and I don't see any reason why it can't be here, either.

Clause D was to set some sort of quorum. It hasn't been an issue, but with abstentions, it can be.

Clause E was only inserted to resolve a numbering issue. R.303 would become R.306, since the prop amends it.
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Mon Jan 26, 2004 8:03 am

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Ahh. I hate it when the "new posts" thing doesn't work. It happens when I log in but don't check all forums.

The coolbot propositions sound good.
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Mon Jan 26, 2004 9:12 am

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I like it too. I'm not sure I even see any points to discuss...I think this will interact nicely with my previous proposition, but we maybe CoolBot could change the word unanimous to be something like "unanimous among non-abstaining voters"?

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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Mon Jan 26, 2004 9:25 am

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I don't think I understand, Cam. My prop doesn't even use the word unanimous in it.
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Mon Jan 26, 2004 9:25 am

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This all sounds well and good to me. I have nothing in particular to say abot alterations to this rule.
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Mon Jan 26, 2004 1:58 pm

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Sounds good to me.
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Tue Jan 27, 2004 4:18 am

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I was referring to the (Trial by Combat) proposition, CoolBot, which requires "all but one of the eligible voters..." blah blah blah. I wanted you to include in your proposition a clause that either amended my proposition to "eligible non-abstaining voters" or change your proposition to define eligible voters to be non-abstaining voters, or something like that.

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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Tue Jan 27, 2004 7:02 am

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That is, in fact, what I was trying to do with clause C. In affect, I wanted unanimous votes to be all non-abstaining votes; simple majority to be 50% + 1 of non-abstaining votes; etc. If that's not clear, I'd be happy to amend it.
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Tue Jan 27, 2004 9:45 am

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How's this change to clause C?
  • C. If a player abstains from a vote, then his or her vote does not count for or against the proposal. Further, when counting votes for any reason, only count non-abstaining votes.
I think such a change doesn't change the thrust of the clause, but does go some way to clarifying what I meant.
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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Tue Jan 27, 2004 11:39 am

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Yeah, that's what I had in mind. Looks good to me.

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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2004 6:01 am

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Well, it looks like no one has any objection to the change, so here's the proposal:

306: Abstentions
  • A. Players may abstain from any vote.
    B. Rule 303 shall be amended to read "Every player is an eligible voter. Any player who does not vote within 72 hours of the first vote cast shall abstain from the vote."
    C. If a player abstains from a vote, then his or her vote does not count for or against the proposal. Further, when counting votes for any reason, only count non-abstaining votes.
    D. If more than 50% of the players abstain, the vote fails due to lack of interest.
    E. If Proposal 306 passes, it shall take the number 307, and Clause E shall be deleted.
And I'll kick off the voting.
vote: Yes
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2004 6:03 am

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Vote: yes
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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2004 6:29 am

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Vote: yes


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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2004 6:32 am

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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2004 8:24 am

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Vote Yes
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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2004 12:21 pm

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Vote: Yes
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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2004 1:21 pm

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