WoT Mafia, GAME OVER

[MrBuddyLee]

Yeah, I'm thinking mind control here. Definitely don't lynch Flay just yet.

[Mariyta]

I didn't know that was possible.....

Unvote

for now I guess.

[Albert the Great]

Sorry I was away for the weekend. It involves parents, internet connection, and finals at school.

1.) Albert the Great (fishing at my role and FoSing for "not explaining", for supplying Tamuz the possible role-claim of Thom Merrelin, tell Tamuz "well done" for what might have been a

random

investigation [therefore not making it 'well done' at all])

The reason I was saying well done is at the time, when I first read the post, I thought it was "well done" as in well written. However, at this point in time, now that people have had the chance to analyze the post, that in my opinion is still "well done", my vote will change.

Unvote

. Also the Thom Merrilin role. IT WAS A GUESS!!! And so far all Tamuz has done is deny it. (see post 105 stanza 6)

Yeah, I'm thinking mind control here. Definitely don't lynch Flay just yet.

Wow like Mariyta I had no idea that was possible.

[mystery meat of doom]

Are talking about real-life mind control or some sort of flavour?

[ChannelDelibird]

From what I gather, the suggestion is that someone has a role that can force people (in this case Tamuz) do post in a certain way or vote for a certain person, maybe both. I'm trying to think of an appropriate character in WoT, but my knowledge of the series is limited...

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

Since tamuz claimed not to be cop and there is possibility of mind control like people are mentioing, mr. flay is off the hook for now so

unvote mr. flay

Also a vote count would be pretty helpful right about now

[Mr. Flay]

Yeah, I'm thinking mind control here. Definitely don't lynch Flay just yet.

Wow like Mariyta I had no idea that was possible.

Anything's possible in a Theme Park game. There have been vote controllers, vote switchers, and target redirectors before. That's why I got so frustrated at everybody leaping on the "obvious" scum investigation.

If I had to guess, I'd say one of the Forsaken/Black Ajah could use Compulsion to mind-control someone. That would be another point in favor of Tamuz being pro-town, or at least a non-channeler.

Sorry I was away for the weekend. It involves parents, internet connection, and finals at school.

1.) Albert the Great (fishing at my role and FoSing for "not explaining", for supplying Tamuz the possible role-claim of Thom Merrelin, tell Tamuz "well done" for what might have been a

random

investigation [therefore not making it 'well done' at all])

The reason I was saying well done is at the time, when I first read the post, I thought it was "well done" as in well written. However, at this point in time, now that people have had the chance to analyze the post, that in my opinion is still "well done", my vote will change.

Unvote

. Also the Thom Merrilin role. IT WAS A GUESS!!! And so far all Tamuz has done is deny it. (see post 105 stanza 6)

But why propose a role for someone else at all? At best you're offering scum information that may not have had about someone else's role, and confirmed that you're not Thom; at worst you could be helping a scumbuddy with a false claim. I'm not saying it's likely, but that's one reason it's suspicious.

Serious suspicions on Max, though. Page 5 and he makes a "hi I'm here, what's the vote count?" post. Either he's got zero clue or he's playing dumb, either way he's Not Helpful.

[Mariyta]

Serious suspicions on Max, though. Page 5 and he makes a "hi I'm here, what's the vote count?" post. Either he's got zero clue or he's playing dumb, either way he's Not Helpful.

Based on my limited experience with Max, I think it's a bit of both. He seems a bit out of it most of the time. Definately someone to keep an eye on since he can easily fly below the radar with that.

[ChannelDelibird]

While I'm online, I might as well reiterate my earlier point.

ChanelDelibird: saying his ridiculous first vote on MMOD

wasn't

a joke vote. WTF?

As I've said before, the only games of Mafia I'd played before weren't really serious and death scenes were written as clues to who committed the crime. This name-connection voting was the main method of lynching in those games. But after a couple of weeks reading games on this site I've seen the light. That's why it wasn't a joke vote.

[Gleeman]

vote count:
9 Kanr1 - (TSS, Spamwise, Friztler, Bascas, Mr. Flay, Yamahako, channeldbird, petrojelly, Armlx
5 Mr Flay - (Tamuz, Pooky, Karn1, Coron, Broomhead
Channeldbird, Petrojelly)
3 Mariyta - (Ameliaslay, Karn, Axelrod)
1 Fritztler - (Mrbuddylee)

[Mariyta]

Vote Karn1

Seems to be the most likely scum candidate at this point.

[Axelrod]

vote count:
9 Kanr1 - (TSS, Spamwise, Friztler, Bascas, Mr. Flay, Yamahako,
5 Mr Flay - (Tamuz, Pooky, Karn1, Coron, Broomhead
Channeldbird, Petrojelly, Armlx))
3 Mariyta - (Ameliaslay, Karn, Axelrod)
1 Fritztler - (Mrbuddylee)

This is extremely messed up. Correction please?

[Albert the Great]

From what I gather, the suggestion is that someone has a role that can force people (in this case Tamuz) do post in a certain way or vote for a certain person, maybe both. I'm trying to think of an appropriate character in WoT, but my knowledge of the series is limited...

In

The Great Hunt

(the second book), there is an Aes Sedai that has a specialty of controlling and manipulating what her victims do with the One Power. She attempts to use this on Rand in order to find out what he erases on the dungeon wall in Fal Dara. I suspect that she is of the Black Ajah (I don't remember from when I read the series before). It is a possibility though.

[Yamahako]

Or compulsion...

[Gleeman]

Ameliasy has requested replacement, shes feels her lack of knowledge is confusinhg her and its unfair on the other players, i have contacted themanhimself about replacing.

[Mr. Flay]

I'm also wildly confused by that last vote count. Is armlx supposed to be on there twice??

Anyway, I'll be almost completely absent from the site until Saturday afternoon - our big conference I've been going crazy preparing for starts this afternoon.

[Gleeman]

themanhimself replaces amailisay effective immeadiately.

[Karn1]

How did the game just stall?

Lets do something, either lynch me or flay but we need to keep the game moving.

[petroleumjelly]

Do you have no intent to role-claim, Karn1? I think we're going to want one before much else goes on.

[Karn1]

Do you have no intent to role-claim, Karn1? I think we're going to want one before much else goes on.

Is that what everyone is waiting on? People should tell me these things.

If you must know, I'm

Nynaeve, Village Wisdom

My role is very simple but it has a variety of uses. Each night I can ask a yes or no question. I get a correct anwser in the morning. I'm not sure if asking that someone is scum could bypass investigation immunity or anything, but it's far beyond a simple cop role.

Last night I asked if Mariyta was scum. the anwser was no.

If you want to know anything else, I'll be happy to answer any questions.

[ChannelDelibird]

Unvote: Karn1

No point lynching a claimed coppish role yet. Unfortunately that's got me fresh out of lynching ideas. I'll have a reread.

[petroleumjelly]

Unvote: Karn1

.

Well, you might have waited longer than

that

and perhaps addressed some of the arguments on you first, but I guess we can make do. That role seems insanely strong, however. How far can it go?

For future nights, I would suggest being more open with your questions. The only example off the top of my head would be something like:

-Are at least one of X and Y scum? A "no" clears both (unless they have immunity, I would guess), and a yes narrows down options for at least one scum very quickly.

Unless there is a counter-claimer for Nynaeve, I honestly cannot see her as being evil.

On down my list, then. Since you claim innocence on Mariyta,

Vote: Broomhead

.

[Yamahako]

Confirm Vote Karn

This is one Mafia that needs to fry.

[Yamahako]

Firstly - Nynaeve wouldn't be a cop in a million years. Secondly - that ability is more like a Min or an Egwene type ability. Thirdly - if you had such a strongly named character - why would you declare your abilities (as they would get you killed tonight for sure) and not just name claim. Fourthly, this doesn't explain any of the scuminess behavior you've displayed yet. Fifthly, you're missing something in your bolded name claim.

I think that about covers it.

[petroleumjelly]

Hum, perhaps I was a bit hasty.

To be honest, I had a natural assumption as to what type of role Nynaeve would be, but that was simply such a strong name-claim that I was willing to overlook the seemingly mismatched ability that came with it. I

do

agree that my first thought was that a Lie Detector (or whatever you want to call this claim) would very much be more in lines of Min (with her visions), Egwene (with her dreaming and ability to access Tel'aran'rhiod), or any Aes Sedai yielding the Oath Rod. I wouldn't have mentioned these earlier (*ahem*), but since Yamahako already pointed it out, I may as well mention them.

Unvote: Broomhead

. I'll have to think, but I will mention that the absense of al'Meara (or perhaps Mandragoran) is not really a point against Karn1, since only "Nynaeve" is really necessarily to identify the character. "Village Wisdom" is somewhat disconcerting however, because that only seems applicable to very beginning of the like, the first book. Then again, it's arguable as to whether or not she is really an Aes Sedai, because when you consider the fact that she supports the "rebel" cause of the White Tower...

I'm just going to stop myself right there.

And after reading this post over, I have determined that I can be a really,

really

big nerd sometimes.

...

And with this potion, I have now received a +4 in dexterity when I use my Cursed Scimitar of Penultimate Doom, obtained from the vicious Dragon of Everlasting Torture, excavated from the bowels of Mount Whiplash! Grah! Za-ping! Kaplow!



I should probably go back and delete that last part, but I don't feel like it. And

no

it's not game related. I will simply keep it there to be a constant reminder to myself that I need to get a life.