Mini 277 - Webcomic Mafia - Game Over!

[Adele]

I think you guys wouldbe better off lynching Stevie rather than me.

I mean, I know I'm biased, but if he's part of a 3 person mafia group (with some godfather that's already Nemesis-investigated), it's useful to keep the SK around as a quasi-vig.

Also, I've already got my major victory; it's not like I need to kill Fighter a second time or something.

(In all honesty, lynching me yesterday would have been a good play for town. Lynching me today isn't nearly as useful.)

Hmm... interesting. But how do we know you'll support the town's aims? You may decide it's in your best interests to support the scum's WCs - or just think, "screw 'em!"

[Nemesis]

I think you guys wouldbe better off lynching Stevie rather than me.

I mean, I know I'm biased, but if he's part of a 3 person mafia group (with some godfather that's already Nemesis-investigated), it's useful to keep the SK around as a quasi-vig.

Also, I've already got my major victory; it's not like I need to kill Fighter a second time or something.

(In all honesty, lynching me yesterday would have been a good play for town. Lynching me today isn't nearly as useful.)

Hadoken: Nemesis

Maybe I'm biased too.

[Thok]

Well, I don't expect you to be happy about letting me live longer.

To be fair I'm in a really weird position. I've already got my major, it will take a lot of wrangling to get my minor (and it seems extremely unlikely that I will suceed) and so I my as well go for my mythical "third" victory condition, which is to aggravate everybody in order to get them to play better.

(If you wait long enough, you may see my complex "3+2i"th victory condition, which is to get the mod to get me a pastami on rye. Or my "surcunkle" victory condition, which is to start a nonsense contest in the thread.)

[Adele]

You're still able to kill at night, correct? I don't trust you not to hit town in the expectation that'll help you survive longer.

Vote: Thok

so we can at least expect a max of one townie death tonight.

Given how obsessively TSAGod's been lurking, of course, there's the question as to whether to lynch him or Stevie (who still hasn't answered the points raised about his claim) tomorrow - assuming (as I am) that our attitude to Nemesis' results has not changed in the meantime. I think Stevie'll be the right decision, for the reasons I've already given and more.

[StevieT92]

I can't answer points about a claim I didn't write

[Nemesis]

Hmmm. If we could trust Thok he'd be ideal to test your claim... Unfortunately we have to hope we have a vig to test it.

[Aelyn]

*drums fingers*

[Adele]

um... could we get a votecount? I think Thok's one away...

Just waiting on the hammah-droppah

[Thok]

I hope you people aren't expecting me to hammer myself; clearly that's White Mage's job. I still think you're fools for going after me today.

[Aelyn]

The all-too-familiar caption shifts once more...

Thok - 3 (Fuldu, Nemesis, Adele)
TSAGod - 1 (Thok)

Coron and TSAGod have been prodded.

[Adele]

so... just waiting for

TSAGod, Coron or Stevie

to drop the hammer on Thok, or

anyone

to suggest a sensible alternative.

[Coron]

I'd rather not, I'd rather

vote: stevie

seeing that he hasn't already achieved his major he's probably more of a threat, not to mention a greater possibility he's in a group as apposed to a sk.

[Adele]

Well, wouldn't lynching stevie then mean the possibility of two townie deaths tonight? Shouldn't we get it down to a single group and then kill the members of that group?

[Coron]

alright, here's the deal, I think thok should target me at night, if he does not we can lynch him tomorrow, I promise not to die just yet.

[Adele]

Unvote, Vote: Stevie

[Thok]

I can go along with this plan. (Not like I have any choice).

[Fuldu]

Just so that we're clear, we're passing up the opportunity to lynch someone we

know

is scum in order to lynch something we

think

is scum? Consider also that Thok has, that I can see from his claimed PM, no incentive not to attack every night, so if he targeted Stevie a night he didn't make a successful kill, then he knows there's a decent chance he's telling the truth, which makes a Stevie lynch very good for him in achieving his minor.

I'd still prefer a Thok lynch and wouldn't mind a better explanation from Coron and Adele as to why they think Stevie is the better play, but if that's where they want to go, I'll go along. But since I still don't trust that Thok has quoted his PM precisely and because his attack on Fighter had to be a hammer vote and given that despite his stated willingness to go along with the Stevie lynch his vote is still in the wrong place, I'd rather he placed the third vote and not the fourth.

[Thok]

That's a fair concern.

unvote TSAGod, vote Stevie

[StevieT92]

Why are you lynching someone that can be tested?

[Adele]

Why are you lynching someone that can be tested?

By who? Thok can test your unnightkillableness, but that's not evidence of the rest of your claim, certainly not your allegiance. Is it even more

common

for people who can't be nightkilled to be town than scum? I don't think it is. Add in all the problems with your claim (which you, obviously, can't now attempt to answer to), and you've got some good reasons there for wanting you dead.

Coron (and everyone), what if, instead of asking Thok to target you tonight, we asked him to target TSAGod? I mean, now he's got his wc and seems happy to go along with the town, why not ask him to act as a

de facto

vig, and take out our probable second scum, leaving us with, at worst, one to try to draw out through a mass claim or something?

[Coron]

I'd rather partially confirm someone without them having to die, thnx.

[Fuldu]

I'd rather partially confirm someone without them having to die, thnx.

Huh? Who are you talking about here?

[Adele]

I'd rather partially confirm someone without them having to die, thnx.

Huh? Who are you talking about here?

TSAGod, who I suggested that we ask Thok to vig tonight but Coron thinks we may as well let be until the morning. I disagree, for the record.

[Fuldu]

So perhaps a better way of phrasing the question, then, is "how are you planning on partially confirming him?" I was associating it with the request that Thok target Coron, which still doesn't make a lot of sense to me, but I guess I'll assume Coron knows what he's doing.

unvote: Thok; vote: StevieT92

[StevieT92]

You can partially confirm

me

.