Mini 291: Clue Mafia.....Game Over!

[BabyJesus]

unvote, vote elvis_knits

this day has gone on long enough. SOmone please hammah!

[elvis_knits]

Hmmm, why the unvote, elvis?

Because my vote on bigAl isn't doing anything if nobody will join me.

unvote, vote elvis_knits

this day has gone on long enough. SOmone please hammah!

I think Bamboomancer is a better lynch, if just for the fact that he hasn't contributed anything and likely won't in the future.

vote bamboomancer

[BabyJesus]

Hmmm, why the unvote, elvis?

Because my vote on bigAl isn't doing anything if nobody will join me.

unvote, vote elvis_knits

this day has gone on long enough. SOmone please hammah!

I think Bamboomancer is a better lynch, if just for the fact that he hasn't contributed anything and likely won't in the future.

vote bamboomancer

I agree, but we've been stuck here long enough. If we can get a bamboo train going, I will happily join it.

[Tamuz]

Self defense voting now Elvis....
Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Bamboo isn't a bad lynch... he is being the least helpful of anyone here, but I think he still has the possibility of posting somethng game relevant to help us whereas Elvis has already posted game relevant and looked scummy doing so.
24 hours and I'm moving my vote to Elvis unless I'm convinced otherwise, yes I realize thats a hammer.

[elvis_knits]

It's hard to believe I have been less help than Bamboomancer.

Well, let me know if there's anything I can respond to that might change your mind, Tamuz (or anyone else for that matter). I've tried to respond to everyone's concerns and I have already claimed... so if there's something else I can do, let me know.

[Tamuz]

mm right, read it over and I'm pretty sure Bamboo is stronger than elvis.

vote: Bamboo

Ther is that case against her, and some floundering now in self defense, but I read more protown from her than bamboo, although I do read unpro town as well.

[elvis_knits]

Hmmm, why the unvote, elvis?

Because my vote on bigAl isn't doing anything if nobody will join me.

unvote, vote elvis_knits

this day has gone on long enough. SOmone please hammah!

I think Bamboomancer is a better lynch, if just for the fact that he hasn't contributed anything and likely won't in the future.

vote bamboomancer

I agree, but we've been stuck here long enough. If we can get a bamboo train going, I will happily join it.

The time is now!

[BabyJesus]

unvote, vote bamboo

[Bamboomancer]

Yeah, I'll admit I haven't been the most helpful, but I've just been kinda disgusted with the witch hunt that's been going up. I think it's funny that you guys would think that my play is SO bad that I'd be the first to ask about room reveal opinions and then adamantly oppose them. I wanted to gauge interest and I got a pretty clear result, then I gave my opinion, which I guess was scummy even though I presented it in a clear and consice manner.

So now, since you've all backed me into this corner despite numerous hints

I'm the doc. I was hoping that one of the others would claim the room I was in last night so that I could shed some negative light on them. But, apparently, the person with the plan is the only person that everyone hates.

So yeah, everyone should probably just stop trying to outguess the mod, and give me a little more credit.

[BabyJesus]

so he claimed doc...
guess we have to lynch him now. RIP Bamboo.

[bigAl]

A doc claim would make sense in trying to hide what room you are in, but also if you were mafia and got blocked by the doc, you might want to try to hide what room you were in from the doc.

[elvis_knits]

Don't you think the doc would WANT a mass room claim so that he could prove someone is scum?

[Mr. Flay]

Unvote: elvis_knits, Vote: Baby Jesus

- there's no reason to auto-lynch a claimed doc in a mini game. If he survives the night, then we can start asking more questions.

Bamboo, are you saying that your action prevents damage by anyone who is in your same room, or to those in the same room? That'll affect what I want to do next... and you STILL haven't said what room you were in.

[Bamboomancer]

Those in the same room. And I WONT unless anyone else claims it.

I brought up the room claim idea to try to catch people, yes, and tried not to room claim to trap people. I STILL don't think outguessing the mod is a good idea, but I know how MY role works

[Orbiting]

Vote Count

Bamboomancer - 4 (BabyJesus, Bamboomancer, elvis_knits, Tamuz)
BabyJesus - 2 (Fuldu, Mr. Flay)
elvis_knits - 2 (kops, MeMe)

Not voting: Bamboomancer

*mod notes: 1) re: why we're in the conservatory instead of the ballroom. Mr. Boddy's death is flavor text, per the Clue board game. No nightkills have yet occurred in the actual mechanic of the game, so no player bodies have been found -- the assignment of the conservatory was more or less at random so that the game can proceed. There is no deep meaning to the choice, and there are no bodies hidden therein, if that's what you were getting at. That wouldn't be fair.
2) I apologize for not being as present in this game as I would have liked. Since the game began, I lost my job, my grandmother had a stroke, I started co-teaching a night class and running the pledge drive for my church, and now, I got a new job which is a lot more like real work than the old one. I'm trying to adjust to all this, and am making an effort to be here more often. In other words, yes, I suck, but I'm trying to stop. Thanks for your patience.

[BabyJesus]

Unvote: elvis_knits, Vote: Baby Jesus

- there's no reason to auto-lynch a claimed doc in a mini game. If he survives the night, then we can start asking more questions.

Bamboo, are you saying that your action prevents damage by anyone who is in your same room, or to those in the same room? That'll affect what I want to do next... and you STILL haven't said what room you were in.

pretty sure I'm confirmed townie, guy. Not sure why you're voting a townie. And I will always vote for claimed docs. It's my new policy. Vote me off for it if you like, it's not gonna change a damn thing.

[Fuldu]

Who confirmed you, BJ? I don't remember anything like that, and I'm fairly sure I'd have removed my vote if I'd seen it.

[kops]

damn... i coulda sworn i posted earlier.. maybe i didnt hit the submit button or something. Well anyway here's the gist of it:

Basically I agree on flay's first point.. there really isn't any reason to lynch a claimed doc right now, unless there's a counter-claim or something of the sort.

However, I'm not so sure about his 2nd point, i don't think bamboo should just come out and claim because there's a small chance we can catch scum claiming something that incriminates them based on bamboo's choice (granted, this isn't all that likely since we dont even know how scum kill.. but you never know)

Lastly... BJ: you are DEFINATELY NOT confirmed. Just 'cause you say you forgot a room choice doesn't mean you really did, and even assuming you

did

that doesn't imply youre town. I think I'm pretty much happy w/ my vote on E_K for now, as nobody else has really pushed my scumdar, but I think I may have to reread day 2 and see if that changes anything.

[BabyJesus]

Who confirmed you, BJ? I don't remember anything like that, and I'm fairly sure I'd have removed my vote if I'd seen it.

I just double checked my OM and confirmed it. I'm a townie.

[BabyJesus]

Who confirmed you, BJ? I don't remember anything like that, and I'm fairly sure I'd have removed my vote if I'd seen it.

I just double checked my OM and confirmed it. I'm a townie.

OM=PM

[Tamuz]

unvote

I don't support lynching a claimed doc, although I too have been screwed by them living in the past BJ.
But Mr. Flay's speed on attacking BabyJ about it concerns me... my list now moves in the realm of Flay and Elvis holding the top two spots in my scummyness radar, although I don't believe both of them are scum, but I believe strongly one or the other would be, especially looking at the interactions.
Plus, Flay is just looking for a scapegoat now, he knows he has one in BJ, expect it.

And Orbiting, my sympathies go to you and your family. I hope all becomes better, and please do not get down upon yourself about it.

[Mr. Flay]

There is absolutely

no reason

to lynch a claimed doc over a claimed townie

in a game where docs can be confirmed

. Anyone who is still on the Bamboowagon is suspect.

And if you think this makes Bamboo and I co-conspirators, think about what a foolish idea it would be to create a false alliance like this on Day Two. We'd be signing our own death warrants.

[elvis_knits]

Now that we know how roles work (assuming Bamboo is doc and assuming mafia kills work the same way):
I think that doing a mass room claim is the best place to go from here. There is a chance we will catch scum (if Bamboo is doc). And even if we don't catch scum, I think it is better for us to record room choices as the days go by, not at some later date when scum can make anything up to fit their actions. The way Bamboo has said his roles works makes room claiming seem like a good idea to me.

unvote bamboo

, but I don't fault BJ for keeping the vote on.

[BabyJesus]

There is absolutely

no reason

to lynch a claimed doc over a claimed townie

in a game where docs can be confirmed

. Anyone who is still on the Bamboowagon is suspect.

And if you think this makes Bamboo and I co-conspirators, think about what a foolish idea it would be to create a false alliance like this on Day Two. We'd be signing our own death warrants.

Hoe exactly can the doc be confirmed? Unless the mod os planning on announcing it before the end of the day, vote stays. There's more at stake here. I'd say there is a good chance Bambii is telling the truth. But I have the overall picture of removing doc as a claim scum can use.

[Mr. Flay]

Perhaps because my role can see what people do???