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Post Post #2650 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:51 am

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In post 2648, zoraster wrote:Also, I have no idea what you mean by compulsive townie or how that'd make sense.

I was just trying to follow the definitions on the wiki literally, in order to figure out what would technically be allowed in a Normal (if the approvals group were really crazily insane). Compulsive = use a night action or get modkilled/action randomized. Vanilla Townie = no night actions. If you can't use a night action, it can't be randomized, so you have to be modkilled or not.

Tragedy wrote:You're a
Cotton Ball
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Find the other cotton balls during the Day to win!

Assuming that all Cotton Balls have identical roles (which is an assumption the players would likely make, even if the mod didn't), optimal play there is just for all Cotton Balls to claim; they have no incentive not to do so.
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Post Post #2651 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:52 am

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Cotton Ball KILLER


You can daykill all claimed cotton balls at any time. This ability is one-shot.

You win when they are all dead.
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Post Post #2652 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:57 am

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In post 2650, callforjudgement wrote:
Tragedy wrote:You're a
Cotton Ball
.
Find the other cotton balls during the Day to win!

Assuming that all Cotton Balls have identical roles (which is an assumption the players would likely make, even if the mod didn't), optimal play there is just for all Cotton Balls to claim; they have no incentive not to do so.

The role's terrible because claiming = suicide.
Which I forgot to put there.
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Post Post #2653 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:57 am

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Or my fix works too.
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Post Post #2654 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:11 am

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In post 2652, Tragedy wrote:
In post 2650, callforjudgement wrote:
Tragedy wrote:You're a
Cotton Ball
.
Find the other cotton balls during the Day to win!

Assuming that all Cotton Balls have identical roles (which is an assumption the players would likely make, even if the mod didn't), optimal play there is just for all Cotton Balls to claim; they have no incentive not to do so.

The role's terrible because claiming = suicide.
Which I forgot to put there.

They'll just breadcrumb really heavily (and obviously) instead, in either case. If the rules are going to punish people for claims, they won't claim, just find some other way around it. You'd need to add some sort of role that can give a disadvantage to the Cotton Balls if he realised what they were, and also had an incentive to do so, and also let the Cotton Balls know that it existed (or they'd just obliviously claim anyway).
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Post Post #2655 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:01 pm

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You're a
Cotton Ball
.
Find the other cotton balls during the Day to win!
You can't breadcrumb or claim the role at all, or you will be modkilled, causing the rest of the cotton balls to lose the game!
I blame you for this.
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Post Post #2656 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:07 pm

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Obvious strategy: get all the non-cotton balls to claim non-cotton ball.
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Post Post #2657 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:10 pm

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Damn it. D:
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Post Post #2658 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:35 pm

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The best solution is a third party that's out to kill the cotton balls.
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Post Post #2659 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:31 pm

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This sounds vaguely reminiscent of Assassin in the Palace

Except with cotton balls.

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Post Post #2660 (ISO) » Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:18 pm

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In post 2656, Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:Obvious strategy: get all the non-cotton balls to claim
non-cotton ball
cotton ball and not be modkilled as a result


Fixed.
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Post Post #2661 (ISO) » Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:38 am

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In post 2659, killerjester wrote:This sounds vaguely reminiscent of Assassin in the Palace

Except with cotton balls.

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Post Post #2662 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:49 pm

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MORONIC CULT LEADERYou are the
moronic cult leader
. You have to end every post with the line **boo chicka chicka boo boo**. You can recruit a player every night to join the cult. You win when the cultists outnumber every other party or nothing can prevent it from happenig. If you die, all the cultists die with you.


RECRUITED PMYou have been recruited by $PLAYER, the
moronic cult leader
. Whenever he posts the line **boo chicka chicka boo boo**, you will have to quote his entire post and answer **chicka chicka chicka boo! Hail to the cult leader**. You win when the cultists outnumber every other party or nothing can prevent it from happenig.
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Post Post #2663 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:23 am

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Lol that actually sounds fun for a bastard game. Would voting count as "posts" ?
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Post Post #2664 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:55 am

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In post 2663, Oversoul wrote:Lol that actually sounds fun for a bastard game. Would voting count as "posts" ?

The problem is that a cult that obvious has little chance of winning. (The cult leader is almost guaranteed to be lynched.)
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Post Post #2665 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:40 am

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So basically the cult leader is a neutral survivor who must never recruit?
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Post Post #2666 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:01 am

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In post 2665, Meransiel wrote:So basically the cult leader is a neutral survivor who must never recruit?

And who has an obnoxious post restriction, although I have no idea whether that helps or hinders a survivor. (Also, it's not quite the same victory condition as survivor; it's more similar to an SK's, although if tomorrow looks like it'll be cult leader + 2/3 townies, changing it to cult leader + cultist + 1/2 townies is a rather better situation.)
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Post Post #2667 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:24 am

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huh guys, this thread is actually for fictional demented roles :-) you don't have to try to balance them, it's just for fun
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Post Post #2668 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:40 am

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In post 2667, lewarcher82 wrote:huh guys, this thread is actually for fictional demented roles :-) you don't have to try to balance them, it's just for fun

Hmm, I prefer roles that could actually be interesting in a real Bastard Mod game.

You are a
Bulletproof Magnetic L-1 Townie
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I'm having serious trouble trying to figure out the best strategy on this one. (I suspect you have to start by RVSing yourself to reduce the chance that you end up losing to a series of scum-driven quicklynches; and you want to claim as quickly as possible (it's a trivially confirmable role), possibly leaving out the bulletproof bit. The time that day starts is also going to be somewhat relevant due to timezone issues.)
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Post Post #2669 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:54 am

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If a player was always at L-1 then a single vote would hammer them. Or, actually, they could never be lynched because they would never be L-0.

You're thinking hated townie. Takes one less vote to hammer.
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Post Post #2670 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:08 am

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In post 2668, callforjudgement wrote:
In post 2667, lewarcher82 wrote:huh guys, this thread is actually for fictional demented roles :-) you don't have to try to balance them, it's just for fun

Hmm, I prefer roles that could actually be interesting in a real Bastard Mod game.

You are a
Bulletproof Magnetic L-1 Townie
. You are always at L-1. That's because the lynch threshhold is the number of votes on you, plus 1. Also, because you're magnetic, you cannot be unvoted. You are also immune to nightkills, except if you're endgamed. You win with the town.

I'm having serious trouble trying to figure out the best strategy on this one. (I suspect you have to start by RVSing yourself to reduce the chance that you end up losing to a series of scum-driven quicklynches; and you want to claim as quickly as possible (it's a trivially confirmable role), possibly leaving out the bulletproof bit. The time that day starts is also going to be somewhat relevant due to timezone issues.)


and I prefer to discuss knots. What is your favourite knot?

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Post Post #2671 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:12 am

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You are a
Knot-Lover
. You win when you get people in the game to discuss knots. This role can be of any alignment. "Knot" can be replaced with any noun or verb so as not to be blatantly obvious.
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Post Post #2672 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:05 pm

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In post 2671, saulres wrote:You are a
Knot-Lover
. You win when you get people in the game to discuss knots. This role can be of any alignment. "Knot" can be replaced with any noun or verb so as not to be blatantly obvious.


You are a
Nymphomaniac
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a) Everyone in the game has admitted a secret sexual fact about themselves
b) You have had sex with every player in the game.

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Post Post #2673 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:18 pm

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In post 2669, Ythan wrote:If a player was always at L-1 then a single vote would hammer them. Or, actually, they could never be lynched because they would never be L-0.

You're thinking hated townie. Takes one less vote to hammer.


I think what he means is that L-1 is however many votes are on that player, so if for example two people were voting him, it would be 3 votes to lynch
anyone else
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Post Post #2674 (ISO) » Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:34 pm

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If the first random vote is not on you that will be a quick lynch.

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