Mini 277 - Webcomic Mafia - Game Over!

Fuldu · Post Post #425 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2006 12:11 pm

Thok wrote:
Fuldu wrote:Am I the only who's trying to count Thok's ostensible win conditions and coming up with more than two?

1. Avoid sleeping with women
2. Kill Fighter
3. Win with town

Overall, I'm more suspicious of Stewie, but I wouldn't mind having this explained.
Why would I want to avoid sleeping with women? White Mage is hawt!

Incidentally, having gotten my Major, I'm willing to start discussing trading my minor victory condition for other people's major victory condition.

Nemesis, with that many innocens you might as well release them to the public.

So your major win condition isn't "win with town" and, since you have something to trade, your minor win condition isn't "win with town." Why wouldn't we just lynch you?

Also, if we're going to do a mass claim (which I have no problem with), I think it makes better sense to start with the three players you don't have an innocent result on. Since they're far more likely to be scum, I'd rather put the onus of coming up with an early roleclaim on them.

StevieT92 · Post Post #426 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2006 12:30 pm

TSAGod wrote:
StevieT92 wrote:Hmm...I'm not sure. We may need to mass claim, but if we do lynch a mafia today, that might not be good later. But, if it seems like that's the only thing we can do to catch a scum, then we should. It's probably Lynch or Lose.
How is not lynching a mafia good? Or how is lynching mafia bad? WTF?

It's not, but if we have power roles, outing them might harm our chances of getting

all

of the scum, so we shouldn't mass claim unless it's absolutely necessary.

Adele · Post Post #427 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:12 pm

I'm sorry for my absence; I don't need replacing, I'm just kind of away. I'll be back on Wednesday, and I'll be opinionated

Coron · Post Post #428 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:15 pm

Adele wrote:I'm sorry for my absence; I don't need replacing, I'm just kind of away. I'll be back on Wednesday, and I'll be opinionated

YAY!

Thok · Post Post #429 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:21 pm

Fuldu wrote:So your major win condition isn't "win with town" and, since you have something to trade, your minor win condition isn't "win with town." Why wouldn't we just lynch you?

To be fair, I was expecting to be vigged last night.

Nemesis · Post Post #430 (ISO) » Tue Apr 18, 2006 2:06 am

I think it makes better sense to start with the three players you don't have an innocent result on. Since they're far more likely to be scum, I'd rather put the onus of coming up with an early roleclaim on them.

Ok, can a couple of people post their thoughts on this please, in case there's something I (and possibly Fuldu) missed please?

Thok · Post Post #431 (ISO) » Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:31 am

Well, I've roleclaimed already, so you should possibly factor that into your calculations.

Fuldu · Post Post #432 (ISO) » Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:00 am

Nemesis wrote:
I think it makes better sense to start with the three players you don't have an innocent result on. Since they're far more likely to be scum, I'd rather put the onus of coming up with an early roleclaim on them.
Ok, can a couple of people post their thoughts on this please, in case there's something I (and possibly Fuldu) missed please?

Don't count on me too much. Today began the seriously sporadic access I've referenced in my .sig. I'm going to try to keep up and reading, but I don't know how thorough I'm going to be able to be.

Coron · Post Post #433 (ISO) » Tue Apr 18, 2006 2:38 pm

I don't really like the idea of mass claim.

Thok · Post Post #434 (ISO) » Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:30 pm

[Dominic Deegan] Anxiously awaiting offered opinions from amicable Adele.[/Dominic Deegan]

Nemesis · Post Post #435 (ISO) » Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:46 pm

I don't really like the idea of mass claim

Why is that?

Coron · Post Post #436 (ISO) » Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:58 am

Nemesis wrote:
I don't really like the idea of mass claim
Why is that?

I think it will be bad for town

Fuldu · Post Post #437 (ISO) » Wed Apr 19, 2006 11:25 am

And, given Thok's actions, that's a credible concern. That's why I'd prefer to discuss options for a limited claim on the part of those that Nemesis doesn't have results on.

Adele · Post Post #438 (ISO) » Thu Apr 20, 2006 4:19 am

Black Mage is a Bad Guy. He happens to be with the "light warriors", but is evil, reveling in hadokens that siphon off the love in the world, raising divorce rates. He killed a townie. He needs to tell us his minor and we have to seriously consider dropping him. I have no doubt he'd assist scum in order to get his minor condition - we can't risk having him in the endgame, even assuming he's not the sk, with Fighter-killing being only his minor win condition and his major being killing us all.

Nemesis · Post Post #439 (ISO) » Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:34 pm

Killing fighter would be his major, I think. Unless the Whitemage is somewhere around here... Although I still think killing fight was his major.

We havn't had a proper SK yet though.

I think it will be bad for town

I was looking for a reason, that isn't specific enough.

Oh well, no one seems to have a problem with it so:

PintSize doesn't like Fuldu at all. He thinks he's a wimp and a moron and not worth anything, and feels that everyone would be better off without him.

You conclude Fuldu must be a good guy.

Adele isn't what Pintsize expected; in fact, he's rather annoyed at how nice she is.

Adele is innocent.

Coron is... Well, pretty tough to describe. Strange, but undoubtedly good of heart, says Pintsize.

Coron is innocent.

So the people who I havn't had a result on are:

StevieT92
Thok
TSAGod

I cannot garantee I havn't investigated the Godfather though.

Nemesis · Post Post #440 (ISO) » Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:36 pm

Oh, we havn't hit any "real scum" (Any actual family members), yet... So in theory they could all be scum, heh.

Adele · Post Post #441 (ISO) » Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:07 am

It's probable that there are 3 scum left, right? Assuming Nemesis is sane, then (which I think is safe, looking at the flavour; Pintsize is insane, Marten reinterprets him. Plus I know I'm good), it appears that the three unconfirmeds are scum. HOWEVER, if Nemesis has hit a GF, then only 2 of the 3 unconfirmeds are scum (still pretty good odds, but not spectacular in a likely LyLo).

I, for one, would like full-PM quotes including both WCs from the three unconfirmeds ASAP (limit how much time they have to make them up).

Thok · Post Post #442 (ISO) » Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:29 am

I've already roleclaimed once. I believe there is absolutely no reason for me to roleclaim again.

Nemesis · Post Post #443 (ISO) » Fri Apr 21, 2006 6:02 am

You didn't quote anything and you lied in your claim. I see a reason... Can you quote the entire thing without editting it please? It makes things a whole lot easier.

Thok · Post Post #444 (ISO) » Fri Apr 21, 2006 6:34 am

Why would I want to make things easier for you?

Thok · Post Post #445 (ISO) » Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:43 am

Hadoken: Nemesis

Adele · Post Post #446 (ISO) » Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:49 am

FOS: Thok

like there's no tomorrow.

Adele · Post Post #447 (ISO) » Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:20 am

Oh for smeg's sake, I am so close to attempting to invoke "Lynch All Liars" right now. Thok? Claim!

(Also, Stevie and TSA, claim plz kthxbye)

Fuldu · Post Post #448 (ISO) » Fri Apr 21, 2006 11:03 am

Look back at the Black Mage image in Fighter's death scene and read the word there. Now compare that to the bolded word in Thok's last post. Thok's at least claiming to try to day-kill our cop, so I'm pretty sure we don't need to take this any further at this point.

vote: Thok

StevieT92 · Post Post #449 (ISO) » Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:11 pm

I'll claim tonight after I get back from the movies.