Mini 304: This is NOT Any Kind of Mafia (Mod Abandoned)

[Tamuz]

vote: Elvis_knits

[elvis_knits]

Hi.

[rajrhcpfreak]

OMGUS logic, if that isn't a great scumdar I don't know what is.

But what baout Yossarian2, he also attacked you with similar points to myself. You make no mention of him, perhaps this will be telling when one of you are dead?

you complain about logic but you vote elvis as soon as she gets in?

i was about to check yossarian but i needed to study. ill do it somtime tonite.

but

FOS Tamuz

for consistantly going after protown and complaining aobut logic and then doing the exact opposite.

and jus tot let you know, elvis you voting for me

[elvis_knits]

unvote

until I read everything.

<3

[Drummer]

and yes drummer i am usualy odd in games.

OMGUS logic, if that isn't a great scumdar I don't know what is.

But what baout Yossarian2, he also attacked you with similar points to myself. You make no mention of him, perhaps this will be telling when one of you are dead?

you complain about logic but you vote elvis as soon as she gets in?

This is a good point. What's the deal here?

[elvis_knits]

I'm working on catching up, but it's hard with all the April Fool's stuff.

I'm sort of afraid that I'm not really a replacement and it's another joke

[elvis_knits]

Not done yet but I have to say I agree with the anti-rajites... sorry honey

[rajrhcpfreak]

wow.

vote elvis

Im playing my reg. style. And you should know that.
If your aginst it then your mafia.


but im still keeping my eye on tamuz.

[Yosarian2]

"this is my normal playstyle" would be fine, if people were attacking you based on your playstyle. Right now, people are attacking you partly because of your irrational vitimanR vote earlier, and partly because you simply have not been helpfull to the town so far.

[Bacde]

It is hard to be helpful to the town a great deal d1. :/

[Yosarian2]

(shrug) Well, he hasn't started any bandwagons, joined any bandwagons, argued against any bandwagons or votes, or even really commented on, say, the Ryan bandwagon. Other then the illogical VitimanR vote, the only votes or even FOS's he's made all game were an OMGUS FOS against Tamuz, and an OMGUS vote against Elvis. He never commented on stratagy, or speculated about the game set-up, or said anything during the whole TLB discussion, and he hasn't ever even given the appearence of looking for sum tells. He only participates at all when he's under attack.

That's what I mean when I say he has not been helpfull. He has not really done anything yet this game that even looks like an attempt to help the town find scum or figure out what to do.

[rajrhcpfreak]

this kills me. vitR vote was in the random vote stage.
in simplest terms i voted for him becuase of his interaction with crop.

look back at the incident.

[crop does his self vote]
[adele vote for crop because self voting is stupid]
[vitr changes his vote to adele]

i almost see this as scum trying to fish for someone to attack.
scum votes for self and then waits for someone to jump on. once somone jumps on they acuse them of trying to lynch the self voter.
i see a tag team mafia here. the choice at this point is to pick one of the two. crop is useless so i pick vitr who could be more threatening.

[rajrhcpfreak]

ok yos, i was posting that before you posted... so i need to say that i said earlier that ive been busy.

you want to know the reason i stayed away from the ryan bandwagon? because the same people that were attacking me the first 5 pages were the ones driving the band wagon.
right now i will call them "raj's axis of evil" Tamuz, Yosarian2, & VitaminR.
the only two people missing from that group is crop, who has been aloof the whole game, and elvis/mig who was voting for me at that time.

so i didnt agree with the ryan bandwagon and as we found out it was a compleate joke. you ran up a simple townie over nothing. good job.

ok i need to coment on "not starting bandwagons" i only have one vote. if it was my choice i woudl ahve already bandwagoned alot of you all right now.

and then the scum tells.... i have commented on voting patterns and how each of them are reacting to eachother shoudl be noted. for this game watch "raj's axis of evil", aka tamuz, yosarian, vitR, crop, elvis.

i know i wont be dead on. but like most games im going to be pretty damn close.

so im done for tonite.

/out

[elvis_knits]

wow.

vote elvis

Im playing my reg. style. And you should know that.
If your aginst it then your mafia.


but im still keeping my eye on tamuz.

Yeah, I do know your playstyle. That doesn't mean that you are never mafia and I can never vote for you. (And also, I haven't even voted for you yet so I don't know why you are getting all upset).

As for the "if you're against me you must be mafia," I don't know why you think that. The most logical thing for me to do if I were mafia is to exploit our friendship and support you/ go after someone else. (WIFOM).

But I still think you're a sex machine.

[elvis_knits]

"raj's axis of evil", aka tamuz, yosarian, vitR, crop, elvis

That's too many scum for a mini.

[elvis_knits]

Ok reading back through raj's posts, I am swayed by some of his arguments. I can see how he didn't vote crop because crop selfvoted in the last game and was town (and raj took advantage of this to lynch crop, as raj was SK).

But I see some flaws in raj's logic here. Just because crop voted himself before doesn't mean every game where crop self-votes means crop must be town. Also, raj has voted the people who went after crop for self-voting. But many people think self-voting is a scum tell, so I don't know why raj jumps to the conclusion that anyone jumping on a scum tell must be scum.

I also don't like how he jumped on Tamuz for voting me as soon as I joined (defending me), but then as soon as I said I was suspicious of him he votes me and calls me scum.

[rajrhcpfreak]

But I see some flaws in raj's logic here. Just because crop voted himself before doesn't mean every game where crop self-votes means crop must be town. Also, raj has voted the people who went after crop for self-voting.

i went after people (vitr) defending crop's self voting. and i think crop is scum.

I also don't like how he jumped on Tamuz for voting me as soon as I joined (defending me), but then as soon as I said I was suspicious of him he votes me and calls me scum.

i FOS tamuz because before you do anything tamuz changes his vote. hes acting like hes playing smart and helping the town... but that post was useless.

im calling you scum because you understand why im not voting crop. and you agree that this is my play style. but your still attacking me.

That's too many scum for a mini.

and yes the names are more than how many mafia is in the game. but it doenst mean they arnt mafia, SK, cult, etc. i think mafia is in that group along with some other scum group that is helping to take me out early.

[Adele]

Sorry I've been gone so long, guys. Good news though - I have information! VitaminR's 85% likely to be scum.

Vote: VitaminR

[rajrhcpfreak]

SENSE OF SMELL!

damn im good

[VitaminR]

Heh. Okay...
I suppose an explanation will follow? Because I am thoroughly confused.

Raj, I'm voting you haven't really contributed while you have indicated that you are satisfied with your vote.

This was the kind of thing I was looking for, but I still don't understand why you are satisfied with your Tamuz vote earlier, over the other people in the "axis of evil"-group.

so i didnt agree with the ryan bandwagon and as we found out it was a compleate joke. you ran up a simple townie over nothing. good job.

Hmm? Ryan isn't confirmed.

[Adele]

The mod was kind enough to give me day info.

Yes, I double and triple checked that it wasn't an icky trick - I don't know how he set the stats up, but it fits my role that I'd randomly get info or powers from time to time. Since I'm non-TLB, I might well get run up tonight by the mafia, so I thought I should share on arrival.

There is an 85% chance VitaminR's scum.

However

(may as well be nk'd for a sheep as a lamb, right?) I can bump this up to certain either way. There are downsides, though - my powers are limited and this'll mean we wait longer before I get another. Do people want that certainty, so they can do the obvious thing and not worry that we've just been a bit unlucky this time or that I'm gonna pull a lepton?

[elvis_knits]

The explanation sounds legit to me.

vote vitaminR

[VitaminR]

Right. Okay. How do you get that certainty? Does it mean waiting till Day 2? Does it mean sacrificing anything?

[rajrhcpfreak]

unvote

vote VitR

[Drummer]

That's too many scum for a mini.

and yes the names are more than how many mafia is in the game. but it doenst mean they arnt mafia, SK, cult, etc. i think mafia is in that group along with some other scum group that is helping to take me out early.

This is ridiculous. Why would they want to take you out early? Not to say that you're aren't brilliant and all(wink, wink), but it's a crazy idea all the same. I don't get how you came up with that one.

Adele...plz, why 85% sure? You say that it's information. That leads me to believe that you received day information from the mod or another player somehow.